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Hilaria Baldwin, Alec Baldwin's wife, accused of pretending to be Spanish
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Weird...... but... I don't think this is as uncommon as people might think, of people embellishing parts of who they are and then eventually the embellished version of them becomes them, and they embellish in some other way. I think this is just famous enough and enough people might care about this celebrity (or w/e she is?) that we're more likely to pay attention to it.
To think that info survived the MySpace data wipe of 2016 is pretty hilarious.
If she spent her infancy here she's not aproppiating our culture, she was part of our culture.
Really, we don't care, specially in Mallorca we have a huge ex-pat community, from the UK and Germany , but also americans, french etc. They're welcomed to feel Mallorquins.
Their kids are actually Mallorquins
So, I just went through most of that video, and unless you can find a time stamp specifically where she claims she was born in Mallorca, I'm not seeing it. Hilaria says she moved to New York for school from Mallorca where she grew up, and she says her parents still live there.
I honestly don't get mad at gringos trying to be Spaniards or Hispanic. If they like the culture so much and they respect it, they can join in.
She should just be honest, say was born in the States but spent a lot of time with family in Spain, that she identifies more with Spaniard culture.
She should just be honest, say was born in the States but spent a lot of time with family in Spain, that she identifies more with Spaniard culture.
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It could be possible that she did spend some time in Mallorca as a kid, but she's lying in that video, as it has been shown that she attended high school in Massachusetts, at the very least.
I think the most generous interpretation here is that she has allowed people to make a series of assumptions about her background and not really gone out of her way to correct them.
I mean, if she grew up equally in Spain and Boston, she can claim whichever she want's, right? Spain is a European country, not an ethnicity. Did she claim to be a Latina? or just that she claims the country as where she hails?
Also, the source was Alec Baldwin's stalker who was convicted for stalking... so clearly no motive to twist any facts, right?
Also, the source was Alec Baldwin's stalker who was convicted for stalking... so clearly no motive to twist any facts, right?
From what read her mother is white and father is from Spain. If she identifies as Spanish well I mean that is totally fine. Just because some one said she grew up as a white kid doesn't mean shit. I am half Mexican half Cajun French (White). I identify more as Hispanic but grew up in a normal American setting.
That sounds like it could be accurate to me, yeah. But I think that's different than the conclusion that is being suggested by the article in question, especially when it ends inconclusively. It's just shitty journalism and people reading the headline and jumping the gun without reading the article or actually delving into it.
Your last part is the people are missing. It's that she kept up a "lie" in order to further her fame.
You can overdo an accent, you can lean into your family heritage more than is justifiable for dubious reasons, those are somewhere between exaggerations and lies, but they're not 100% objectively true/false things. They're not binaries.
The "I came to America to go to college" story when you went to high school in Boston, that shit is wild. That's just factual.
The "I came to America to go to college" story when you went to high school in Boston, that shit is wild. That's just factual.
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I mean, in fairness to her, she says she moved here for College, and grew up in Mallorca, which both can still be technically accurate. Which seems to be the crux of this. She never outright seems to have claimed to have been born in Spain, but she claims that she grew up there, which she feels makes her Spanish.
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People are fixating on the "Well she split time, so who cares" while over looking she tried to keep up a persona that is just not factually right.
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This is a point worth noting - and it's why comparisons to Rachel Dolezal are certainly off-base.
This story falls more into weird/amusing territory than malignant/appropriative territory.
Not really. She can really be that persona if she lived here when she was a kid
Again, what she said can be factually right. The article literally even ends inconclusively on whether she has Spanish ancestry, so their own point about her could be false. What we can say factually is that she identifies as Spaniard, claims to have grown up there, and moved to the States for University.
A lot of ppl doing mental gymnastics for this person. She knew what she was doing and it's weird
Exactly. It's straight up lying for her to claim she only returned to the United States for college if she literally went to high school in the Boston area.
From there, given the rest of the nonsense, you have to consider why lie about that. That lie is helping support the rest of the questionable conduct for this persona.
It's bizarre, at best.
She literally never claims this. She said she moved to the US for college, which is different from "I only ever returned to the US for college".
Apologies for the word choice, then, though I didn't mean "return" to literally mean "never ever visited ever".
"She moved to the US for college". She was in the US for High School.
At best, it's a lie by omission.
She's claiming a particular life style that is definitely stretched.
She went to high school in the US, her family is rooted in the US, and she went to college in the US. She even says she was born in Boston.
moving to the states for college doesnt meant she needs to be actually going to college right away, some people move a year before, so they can acostumize to the country and shit and not being with a huge cultural shift.
That does not preclude her from identifying as a Spaniard if, as she claims, she grew up in Mallorca.
Again, not necessarily. If she was living in Spain and came to the US for high school, then returned to Spain, she was studying abroad. If her assertion is that she permanently moved to the US when she came here for University, that can still be true. Again, it's difficult to ascertain what her intention is when she makes the statement so briefly in the context of an almost hour-long conversation, and again, it doesn't match the claims being suggested in either article.
I've come back to this thread several times and I still dont understand what's going on. Did she live in Spain or not?
That's not the issue I'm taking, it's playing up a persona to create a career
Did you watch this video?
The cooking show bit where she does the whole "how you say in a-english? Ehhhh....cucumBER?" is truly deranged.
Another fun wrinkle in this is that her and Alec have 5 kids: (from Wikipedia)
Yikes. Here's hoping she actually has some heritage and isn't just enlisting her kids in her insanity.
Another fun wrinkle in this is that her and Alec have 5 kids: (from Wikipedia)
Yikes. Here's hoping she actually has some heritage and isn't just enlisting her kids in her insanity.
imagine giving much more a fuck about whether she's actually spanish or not (even though she spent most of her childhood there) and not for the well being of this woman who is certainly getting harrassed by random fuckos on the internet cause of this. like, this piece used her name from a yearbook as some sort of smoking gun. lmfao some of yall need to get a life
how is this not actually her? what's the issue here? growing up in spain, you develop an accent. news at 11
She didn't user her persona to create a career. She's a yoga instructor, and she gained fame from marrying a very famous actor.
Also, I don't think that video is really as damning as you think it is.
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