Well at least with her being absent for most of this R07 couldn't ruin her : (
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Same. Considering Shion still seemed mad at Mion in that arc we'll still probably get to see her do stuff until the Sonozaki party at least. It also seems to be the best chance we'll ever get of having an arc from Mion's POV.Even though Shion has been sidelined so far in Gou, I hope Watadamashi's Answer arc is actually Mion focused. I really want to see an actual Mion focused arc.
I mean her "good ending" got indirectly fucked since Comatoshi never woke up and 5 years later she still waiting...Well at least with her being absent for most of this R07 couldn't ruin her : (
Pretty sure the problem is less her being on the special class and more that she doesn't want to be in St. Lucia at all, before being send to the special class she was already felling miserable since she basically spent no time with Rika (the reason she is there in the first place) so even if she passed the tests that doesn't take away the fact she hates the place with other students looking down on her as shown with Rika friends complaining about Satoko personalityGlad it took two episodes to explain the memories-from-other-loops thing, and then have Satoko get the virus vial in the last 5 minutes.
Too bad she can't do the snap thing on like, a test at the school she had such a hard time in. Naw, this is way easier.
Yeah, you're right. But it's the comparative difference between having a shitty high school life and murdering your friends for a hundred years that's kinda breaking my suspension of disbelief.Pretty sure the problem is less her being on the special class and more that she doesn't want to be in St. Lucia at all, even if she passed the tests that doesn't take away the fact that people there look down on her as shown with Rika friends complaining about Satoko personality
There's really no way to sugarcoat it - Satoko is a piece of shit. Team Rika all day every day.
July is gonna be liiiiiit.
Yeah this is the one. It's the sequel to the old one.This that anime that starts like some kind of harem anime.. then gets.. uh.. really violent?
Been years since I've seen it if that's he one. With the Green haired girls right?
Yeah good idea lol, the thread title has been in dire need of an update for a whileI think I will request mod to change the title into general Higurashi Gou/Sotsu thread title. It is basically an OT anyway lol.
It's done. Now to wait until July lol.Yeah good idea lol, the thread title has been in dire need of an update for a while
So ahven't watched the anime yet, I'm waiting for it to be finished, but did they truly linked it with Umineko?
Do you think that we're gonna get an Umineko anime too?
There is one character that might or might not be directly from Umineko as said character is acting weird. As for Umineko we technicallySo ahven't watched the anime yet, I'm waiting for it to be finished, but did they truly linked it with Umineko?
Do you think that we're gonna get an Umineko anime too?
Satoko character basically doesn't' exist anymore now, she basically got absorbed by Lambadelta and became a completely different person and she can do anything she wants as long it alows her to fit into this other character.There's really no way to sugarcoat it - Satoko is a piece of shit. Team Rika all day every day.
July is gonna be liiiiiit.
I kinda want an Umineko anime to see if Passione can make a worse job than DEEN.So ahven't watched the anime yet, I'm waiting for it to be finished, but did they truly linked it with Umineko?
Do you think that we're gonna get an Umineko anime too?
Satoko character basically doesn't' exist anymore now, she basically got absorbed by Lambadelta and became a completely different person and she can do anything she wants as long it alows her to fit into this other character.
I kinda want an Umineko anime to see if Passione can make a worse job than DEEN.
Haven't been watching but was Bern voiced by Rika and Lambda voiced by Satoko in the Umineko console ports and anime?Satoko character basically doesn't' exist anymore now, she basically got absorbed by Lambadelta and became a completely different person and she can do anything she wants as long it alows her to fit into this other character.
I kinda want an Umineko anime to see if Passione can make a worse job than DEEN.
Bern and Rika shares Rika's VA, Lambda's voice actor is the same as child Takano (As you can see in this episode, they also pretty much look the same). She was pretty much conveived as a Takano reference in design/name more than anything.Haven't been watching but was Bern voiced by Rika and Lambda voiced by Satoko in the Umineko console ports and anime?
Bern is voiced by Rika, but Lambda is voiced by young Takano. That said, in interviews at the time Ryukishi outright talked about how the Takano resemblance was just there to mislead readers coming from Higurashi.Haven't been watching but was Bern voiced by Rika and Lambda voiced by Satoko in the Umineko console ports and anime?
So how are we gonna handle spoiler tags for this OT? I personally don't see the point of using them since Gou finished, and it would be a lot easier for me to not use them, but I'll just go ahead and spoiler the below just incase.
I more or less agree that I can't really see her as Satoko anymore since she's practically Lamb in everything but name now. Eua is obviously some iteration of Featherine as well since she acts almost identically that it wouldn't really matter if she technically was a different entity.
I don't know whether this is a positive or negative point, but: Satoko's reaction to Teppei's handshake implies, to me at least, that she was not faking her reactions in Tataridamashi as some people have claimed. I said at the time that it just felt like bad voice acting from her VA being out of practice for the role / bad directing from Passione, and not like anything in-universe was supposed to be implied; as mean as it sounds, I think this supports that.
I kind of want to believe she is saying hello to truck-kun every time, because it's morbidly amusing, but... Surely, surely the show isn't that ridiculously silly, right? Maybe I'm still, somehow, despite all of my criticisms, giving the show too much credit. Lol.Lol, she's absolutely suiciding after every snap. As for the "how come Matsuribayashi happens every time" problem, the show doesn't bother explaining it (which it should) but I'm assuming that's because Satoko's deal with Featherine was that she wanted to go back in time and say no to Rika. It wouldn't work if Matsuribayashi wasn't guaranteed and she had to die a billion times before reaching the same point again. So presumably she's always sent to variations of the miracle fragment.
But she 100% is killing herself with every snap.
That's certainly good to know. Though, as a rule, I don't ever put much stock in things like interviews -- if it's not in the actual work, it more or less "doesn't count" in my brain, no matter how true or relevant it is. I also don't count things like the console arcs; heck, I even tend to halfway-ignore Saikoroshi, and that's just blatantly incorrect of me to do and I know it. (Ignore might be the wrong word there, because I do acknowledge it exists, but I mean that I see it as separate and thus "unrelated". Basically, I don't care about it when discussing Higurashi proper.)Regarding Tataridamashi,
there was an interview with Ryukishi where he said the performance wasn't as intense as the original, but it was actually intentional.
H: Someone stated she was fishy ever since that vomit scene. Is that true? Was something slightly different?
R: Let's see. How to explain that. Her seiyuu, Kanai Mika, made a spectacular performance. Remember the original series when Satoko threw up? It really felt like it came from her gut right? "But this time, it sounds a bit like she is faking it?" Some people said those kind of things.
R: Also, when Satoko came back (to school after Teppei came back to Hinamizawa), she took a piece of daikon from Rena's bento. There were some theories where Satoko came back on purpose to pick that daikon piece and make it so she actually threw up.
H: That's interesting.
R: It isn't just Kanai, but all the seiyuu are quite the veterans. When you tell them the hidden details, they can deliver tons of nuance. That being said, since the original series was 10 years ago, some people might think the seiyuu are just tired and thus might have misunderstood how they had to perform. But there was no misunderstanding to begin with. In fact, their acting was spot on.
H: And then we had that scene with Keiichi trying to pat her head but she immediately deflected his hand.
R: Oh yeah, that. The first time you watch that scene, you might wonder "a little bit" about Satoko's attitude there.
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Aside from the performance itselfSo "best"-case scenario, taking that interview into account could only move my view as far as going from "nothing was foreshadowed, nor was anything meant to be" to "nothing was properly foreshadowed, whether something was meant to be or not". I recognize that I'm being harsh to the show and its creators in saying that, though... Not to mention that factually, plenty of people clearly did get from the scene what they were supposedly supposed to, so yeah. It just didn't land for me, from a perspective based purely in the work itself.
Well, Eua did state that Matsuribayashi always happens because Rika overturned fate and now the events of MB are fated to happen .
Regarding the snap: Remember, Rika has to die BEFORE Satoko does in each loop in order for the former to keep her memories, meaning Satoko can't just kiss the nearest speeding vehicle's dashboard every time she wants a do-over. It also doesn't make sense for Satoko to have instant reset powers given the nature of fragments (each new loop is a new fragment and you can't just timehop within a single fragment).
It seems likely to me that the snap is just a clumsy visual indicator for "Satoko eventually figured this out after enough looping".
Why are we using spoilers?
Current Rika is not looping, Rika only starts to loop from the first Danmashi, if she doesn't die the fragment just keeps going without Satoko who is transported into another fragment alone. Given looping has always been associating with dying and she will have to die in the future to perform looping, and given the finger snapping has always been associating with death, I don't see any reason to assume that is not the case here.
She doesn't seem to be looping alongside Rika yet though. So far the impression I got from the last two episodes is that she's just preparing everything before actually bringing high school Rika to her loops. The one who is appearing right now is just a Matsuri Rika getting rebooted over and over. It's only when you go back and watch the early Damashi arcs that she actually has to follow that rule, since she wants to keep that Rika looping alongside her, but we haven't gotten back to that point yet.I can't remember precisely which episode it was (probably the one after Satoko gets her power) but Eua changed things so that Rika's memories of the previous loop persist into the next one providing Satoko doesn't die before she does. Rika is effectively looping, it's just that she/Hanyuu aren't the ones in control of it any more, and if Satoko ever bites it first she'll effectively go back to square one (since she's using Rika's loop memories to torture her into breaking down).
If Satoko wants to end a loop early, she basically HAS to kill Rika or her whole scheme falls apart.
She doesn't seem to be looping alongside Rika yet though. So far the impression I got from the last two episodes is that she's just preparing everything before actually bringing high school Rika to her loops. The one who is appearing right now is just a Matsuri Rika getting rebooted over and over. It's only when you go back and watch the early Damashi arcs that she actually has to follow that rule, since she wants to keep that Rika looping alongside her, but we haven't gotten back to that point yet.
She doesn't seem to be looping alongside Rika yet though. So far the impression I got from the last two episodes is that she's just preparing everything before actually bringing high school Rika to her loops. The one who is appearing right now is just a Matsuri Rika getting rebooted over and over. It's only when you go back and watch the early Damashi arcs that she actually has to follow that rule, since she wants to keep that Rika looping alongside her, but we haven't gotten back to that point yet.
Cos the latest episode isn't available for everyone yetWhy are we using spoilers?
Current Rika is not looping, Rika only starts to loop from the first Danmashi, if she doesn't die the fragment just keeps going without Satoko who is transported into another fragment alone. Given looping has always been associating with dying and she will have to die in the future to perform looping, and given the finger snapping has always been associating with death, I don't see any reason to assume that is not the case here.
Nah. Hanyuu tells Rika that it's inside the statue,but when she gets there it's just empty, but she finds the shard inside (it was also empty when the statue was accidentaly opened in Watadamashi). We haven't seen the sword itself in the present yet.I forget, did the earlier episodes actually show how the Onigari-no-ryuuou broke?