Kojima fans putting in work lmao
Glad he got a loan and a good studio location thanks to that.
Do you think Kojima has enough money to finance a game like DS by himself?
Really? No money?
like, I love the guy but, seriously? Thats some bullshit.
Yeah, dude has money. That's the only part I laugh at.
Kojima was an executive at Konami, he was a frickin' Vice President.
No.
But, he proably had enough money on his own to start a new studio and hire staff. However, he's no dummy. Never tie up your personal earnings into a new venture when you can get a loan. Kojima's always two steps ahead.
Of course not, however, thats not the conversation. Hes selling himself as an everyman indie developer with no recourses which is ludicrous and laughable regardless of how Japan operates.
Kojima fan who works at the bank, you're the real MVP for that one
No.
But, he proably had enough money on his own to start a new studio and hire staff. However, he's no dummy. Never tie up your personal earnings into a new venture when you can get a loan. Kojima's always two steps ahead.
Of course not, however, thats not the conversation. Hes selling himself as an everyman indie developer with no recourses which is ludicrous and laughable regardless of how Japan operates.
A few weeks ago I saw a (now deleted) tweet from a video game industry person (I remember who it was but for their sake I won't throw them under the bus as they probably deleted it for a reason) in response to someone asking if Japanese game developer personas were anything like their actual attitude in their non-public life, and the tweet said something along the lines of "If people knew the real Kojima, he wouldn't be nearly as beloved." Maybe this just means he's very plain/boring in his private life, but since it was deleted, it makes me think it might be more dark.
Re-reading my post before I post it, I know I sound crazy and no one has any reason to believe me, but I'm truly not one to lie about this sort of thing hahaha
That banker probably has a cameo in the game as another Ludens fan. He made the original connection/strand after all
What?!According to Kojima, there were doubters that anyone thought the game would be good. "The reason for that is that there hasn't been a single world-famous game designer who has had success after striking out on their own."
Sid Meier with Firaxis. Peter Molyneaux with Lionhead. Sakaguchi with Mistwalker. Tim Schafer with Double Fine.
Some are millionaires. Cliff Blezisnki. Todd Howard. Randy Pitchford.Do some of you think game devs are rich or something? I mean what the hell.
Starting a game company and hiring staff you think that costs a little?
He should had put his name on some million-seller videogames in these last 20 years. /sImagine being Hideo Kojima and not having any money. What the hell is up with Japan?
Metal Gear Solid 4? 5? Peace Walker?You don't know, but I do. Also kindly tell me the Hideo Kojima game that wasn't good.
It would probably go something like this :Hatred for Kojima by some people verges on irrational. The guys could walk past them in the street and say "hello" and they'd find a way to spin it as act of aggression worthy of murdering him over.
Not even guys like Avellone, Roberts, Spector, Fargo, Sakaguchi, Sakurai, Taro, Ueda...?"The reason for that is that there hasn't been a single world-famous game designer who has had success after striking out on their own."
If publishers/financiers hated him as much as the internet does, coupled with the fallout/rumors from Konami about mismanagement of funding, I can absolutely see having trouble funding a new studio and AAA title.Of course not, however, thats not the conversation. Hes selling himself as an everyman indie developer with no recourses which is ludicrous and laughable regardless of how Japan operates.
That's perfect lol.
Nothing in that interview sounds 'self indulgent and arrogant as fuck'. I guess the problem is you.I'm a big fan, but I swear everytime he speaks it feels self indulgent and arrogant as fuck. Is it lost in translation again? You can not be humble in Japanese?
Off the top of my head Yoshiki Okamoto (ex-Capcom). While his first venture (Game Republic) went bankrupt he came back strong when he made Monster Strike for Mixi. Monster Strike has probably made more money than the entire Metal Gear series combined.
He would probably assess that he invented "hello" and nobody has ever said "hello" before him. And he couldn't even speak before he said "hello":Hatred for Kojima by some people verges on irrational. The guys could walk past them in the street and say "hello" and they'd find a way to spin it as act of aggression worthy of murdering him over.
A true underdog story.Really? No money?
like, I love the guy but, seriously? Thats some bullshit.
Thanks for proving my point :)He would probably assess that he invented "hello" and nobody has ever said "hello" before him. And he couldn't even speak before he said "hello":
Making a AAA game starting with no studio in 3 years is easy because he has connections! /sDo some of you think game devs are rich or something? I mean what the hell.
Starting a game company and hiring staff you think that costs a little?
This thread is a wild ride. Do y'all think creators are rock stars or something?? They're just creative people that have to find ways to fund their games.Imagine being Hideo Kojima and not having any money. What the hell is up with Japan?
I use Metal Gear Solid as an example, not to suggest that's the only thing he's ever made.
And once again this is still an entirely new project. Renowned artists who have multiple works of success still have fumbles. To suggest that you know the game is going to be amazing when you haven't played it is silly.
I'll reiterate that I'm anticipating the game to be good but I have no way of knowing until I play it.
People like Kojima who start their own studios do not spend their own money.Do some of you think game devs are rich or something? I mean what the hell.
Starting a game company and hiring staff you think that costs a little?
Wow Kojima! You really overcame a hard career of games that went unadvertised and unplayed! Love to see your first good game finally coming against all odds at retirement age. Indie king. /s
The best(worst?) part is if he said the total opposite (it was so easy for me to go independant, create a studio and a brand new IP in 3 years, thanks to the connections I made during my carreer) the same people would spit on him the same, calling him pretentious etcMaking a AAA game starting with no studio in 3 years is easy because he has connections! /s
I also read that tweet and know who you are talking about. I actually was going to post that but good thing I saw your post before I did that.A few weeks ago I saw a (now deleted) tweet from a video game industry person (I remember who it was but for their sake I won't throw them under the bus as they probably deleted it for a reason) in response to someone asking if Japanese game developer personas were anything like their actual attitude in their non-public life, and the tweet said something along the lines of "If people knew the real Kojima, he wouldn't be nearly as beloved." Maybe this just means he's very plain/boring in his private life, but since it was deleted, it makes me think it might be more dark.
Re-reading my post before I post it, I know I sound crazy and no one has any reason to believe me, but I'm truly not one to lie about this sort of thing hahaha
When I said devoid of similarities, I meant that the game is not Metal Gear Solid. I should've instead said that Death Stranding isn't Metal Gear Solid and a new title to a new franchise. Regardless, after you quoted me the first time, I clarified what I meant, and here you are continuing something that isn't up for debate anymore. You're incredibly insulting for no reason. Take a jog, dude.You brought up Metal Gear Solid to suggest Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to it. You don't know that. You haven't played it.
To suggest you know Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to his previous work when you haven't played it is silly.
I'll reiterate that as you say I don't know if Death Stranding is good because I haven't played it, YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING if Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to his previous work because YOU haven't played it.
You can't tell me what I can and can't say because I haven't played it, while in the same breath pulling bullshit out of your ass that you don't know about because YOU haven't played it.
You've been hoisted on your own petard.
Yes, I've played them. I said name the bad Hideo Kojima games.
Yeah that stuck out to me. I guess he likes it when people give him special attention. Who knew
I did.You brought up Metal Gear Solid to suggest Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to it. You don't know that. You haven't played it.
To suggest you know Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to his previous work when you haven't played it is silly.
I'll reiterate that as you say I don't know if Death Stranding is good because I haven't played it, YOU HAVE NO WAY OF KNOWING if Death Stranding is "devoid of similarities" to his previous work because YOU haven't played it.
You can't tell me what I can and can't say because I haven't played it, while in the same breath pulling bullshit out of your ass that you don't know about because YOU haven't played it.
You've been hoisted on your own petard.
Yes, I've played them. I said name the bad Hideo Kojima games.
When I said devoid of similarities, I meant that the game is not Metal Gear Solid. I should've instead said that Death Stranding isn't Metal Gear Solid and a new title to a new franchise.
Not only publishing. Sony is paying him for a first party game. They even gave him a Sony engine to speed up the AAA development. Sony owns Death Stranding. And I hope they continue this relationship for more awesome games.Sony is publishing this right? Its nice that Kojima stayed independent but the risks that come with it are enormous. The guy must have worked his ass off to get this game up and running with a personal bank loan. I hope for the best but I think the game will sell plenty of copies.
Kojima doesnt believe in the heart of the cards.
Neither did your post speaking as if you already played the game, which is why I quoted you in the first place. You're misplacing optimism for certainty, which is the only reason I decided to quote you.Why would you even say THAT? No one ever said the game WAS Metal Gear Solid. None of your shit made sense.
Neither did your post speaking as if you already played the game, which is why I quoted you in the first place. You're misplacing optimism for certainty, which is the only reason I decided to quote you.
I didn't say the game is not good. That's something you decided to see in my post. My position was always optimism with the expectation that it can be either good or bad, and not to automatically assume that the reception is going to be good. I never contradicted myself. You have tunnel vision and are taking this as a personal affront.The point is you can't quote someone telling them don't say the game is good when they haven't played it, while at the same time saying what the game is NOT when you haven't played it either. You destroying any point you may have made by contradicting yourself in the same breath.
Yes, a true rags to riches story for Kojima. He was literally "unemployed" for 5 months before signing with Sony. Like, c'mon dude. There are legitimate indie devs who are actually struggling yet we continue to prop Kojima up as some underdog story.
I didn't say the game is not good. That's something you decided to see in my post. My position was always optimism with the expectation that it can be either good or bad, and not to automatically assume that the reception is going to be good. I never contradicted myself. You have tunnel vision and are taking this as a personal affront.
I called out your post for automatically assuming it's good, and the mere fact you took issue with that suggests that you think I'm assuming the opposite, which logic dictates would be that I must think the game will be bad. And I've clarified numerous times that my saying "similarities to" was a broad generalization that should've instead said, "Death Stranding is not Metal Gear Solid," which led to my other point that it's an entirely new project that doesn't have the benefit of the doubt because it isn't part of an established franchise. And I also refuted your point that just because Hideo has been known for quality work that it isn't impossible for Death Stranding to not be a miss. I'm hoping it isn't.Nobody said that you said the game is not good, again reading comprehension is alluding you but I'll quote myself so you can have another shot at it.
The point is you can't quote someone telling them don't say the game is good when they haven't played it, while at the same time saying what the game is NOT when you haven't played it either.
I said you can't tell me what the game is NOT. If I can't say the game is good because I haven't played it, you can't say the game is NOT similar to his previous work when YOU haven't played it either.
Confirmation bias.I'm a big fan, but I swear everytime he speaks it feels self indulgent and arrogant as fuck. Is it lost in translation again? You can not be humble in Japanese?