nintendo will buy Konami and remake the entire Metal Gear Solid franchise in the style of Twin Snakes
I feel sick for even making such a joke
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Hideki Yasuda, Senior Analyst, Ace Research Institute: Nintendo has practically eradicated Playstation from Japan
- Thread starter K Samedi
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I feel sick for even making such a joke
I think you're taking my wording a little too literally. By 'ballooning' I mean they're doing better than ever. And yes, the PS3 almost sunk the division, they're in a far, far, faaaar better spot than they were 10-15 years ago. I mean we just had this thread:
Sony Q3 FY2020 (Oct-Dec) Results - PS5: 4.5m, PS4: 1.4m (LTD: 114.9m) / Record Year for PlayStation / Highest Quarterly Revenue in video game history
I think they're sitting pretty happy.
Anyway I guess I'm curious as to what's motivating this. Used to be you could have series propped up entirely off of their strong Japanese sales.
Is it really as simple as "mobile games are cheaper and everyone has a phone, so they get their fix there and don't need a dedicated gaming console like they used to" or is there something else?
Is it really as simple as "mobile games are cheaper and everyone has a phone, so they get their fix there and don't need a dedicated gaming console like they used to" or is there something else?
This comparison is about Nintendo and PS ecosystems as a whole, not Switch vs PS5. PS4 software has been extremely anemic too.
136 weeks is around the launch of Switch Lite and Pokemon S/S. I guess the next spike is AC.That's not really fair to compare the Switch to the DS when it comes to whether the handheld market is shrinking or not. The DS is the all time best selling games system (handheld or otherwise) in Japan and it sold at a significantly cheaper price than the Switch.
This chart (from Hiska-Kun in the Media-Create threads) shows how the Switch is well on course to be the best selling handheld in Japan since the DS itself. Depending on how long they sell it for and how much they can slash the price over time, they may even get somewhere in the realm of the DS itself, though I don't think it'll make it quite that high.
If anything I think the Switch shows a revitalisation of the Japanese handheld market. It's perhaps just a little expensive to hit the heights of the DS which could almost be an impulse purchase at its price.
Do they communicate about repartition between Lite and Normal ?
Yeah, it is. And Nintendo has found a way to grow in all markets. Which means two things, either Sony doesn't care about Japan, or don't know how to grow there. Maybe it's a mix of both.
There are no PS5 sales to compare against the Switch in 2021 so far. No PS5 game has charted in Japan since the third week of launch. That chart would actually just be 100% Switch based on known data (in practicality it would also probably be somewhere around 99% Switch if not just counting charted software).
No.
It's that Sony isn't making and marketing enough first party games towards the Japanese audience. And conversely Nintendo is doing that better than ever before.
Nintendo already owns shares in Konami, just need to increase their investment.=P
I don't really think it's about the heavy hitters like this. I think it's more about the lack of exclusive smaller titles. It's less about big budget Japanese games, and more about the loss of Parappa the Rapper, Ogre Battle, Katamari Damacy, Disgaea, etc.
Playstation used to be synonymous with having such smaller Japanese titles as exclusives. But now, such games are far more likely to be on Switch, if not both Switch and PS4.
And people are just more likely to go with the handheld to play such games for cultural reasons.
I thought the word right now was that Japanese game sales, as a whole, were down.
When you haven't fostered a market for more than a decade with software it's clear that you'll end up losing ground.
The Lite is the less popular version by far. LTD the Lite represents 3.2m out of ~18m. Last week the hybrid Switch sold 87k units, the Lite sold 23k.
That's not true at all. The market has been growing YOY for a few years now.
It's false. It's been growing and will keep growing.
Only Playstation is shrinking there.
Sometimes I wonder if people realize the reason why they don't do so anymore.
The console market or games in general? I know mobile is always growing but I read some where that PC was also on the rise although I can't seem to recall the source.
They do, but I don't have the figures. The normal model seems to outsell the Lite by some distance generally, I seem to recall.
Doesn't Sony still have a presence in mobile games? They might be happy with that. I doubt they want to create another handheld.
Sony just had a record quarter for any platform holder and is doing better than ever and making significant inroads in middle east and other regions. They will be fine if they dont get the ocassional A, AA japan focussed content as long as they continue to get Resident Evils, Devil May Cry, Final Fantasy etc.. that btw Switch still does not get inspite of its dominance in Japan.
So that we don't beat around the Bush, let me ask; What kind of software does the japanese market desire specifically?
I don't think people are asking for Santa Monica and Naughty Dog to stop what their doing and make Japanese games. Sony can have teams and smaller studios doing thing with moderate budget to appeal to Japan. Or make games that appeal to everyone.
It's a chicken and egg situation. If they wanted to regain ground in the Japanese market they would need to invest in some first party projects aimed at Japan. And they'd also need to back those with similar marketing as their other titles.
Of course they could also use those resources to focus on other markets to increase their positions there. If they believe that's a better idea in the long run then they're probably making the right decision.
So yeah I'm pretty sure people know why they've heavily reduced their output aimed at Japan.
They still managed to sell crazy amounts of PS4 software in 2020 in many other markets.
Playstation mobile games have mostly all been failures. I think Disgaea RPG is doing ok since its reboot.
But it's not like Nintendo isnt growing in other markets as well while still appealing to Japan. Just seems to me Sony doesnt make things for the japanese market. Nothing bad about that since they seem to have found their bread and butter with the west.
The console market, I believe, is what has grown like ~8% in 2020 over the previous year. And it's been growing for a few years.
Hardware and software sales of course.
Don't they own Fate/Grand Order? I don't follow these mobile games often but I heard that was crazy successful in Japan.
This isn't the first generational transition. PS3 had more marketshare after the release of the PS4 than PS4 has now.
i guess i'll look forward to seeing more from matrix-bending solid snake lol
FGO is an Aniplex game, a subsidiary company of Sony Music. It's a totally different entity from SIE, the video games side of Sony.
Playstation mobile titles are mostly what Forwardworks, their new subsidiary company made solely for mobile games, have done.
The thing is, if Sony want to be more successful in Japan, they need games that can move consoles and small-mid tier games won't cut it outside of a miracle game. When was the last time Sony Japan made a game that moved a significant amount of consoles?
PlayStation doesn't, but Sony Group does. Fate GO is run by Aniplex, who is owned by Sony Music Entertainment Japan.
PlayStation has their own mobile division called Forwardworks, but it's a bit of a failure.
You shouldn't give a vivid example more weight than actual data analysis.
I don't think they need some complicated dock GPU, just a basic one for video out and power like the Switch.
Just make the handhold powerful targeting PS4/XB1 graphics, have DLSS & HW upscaling, 4-6 hours battery, allow for video out to TV (via dock or cable like PSP) and bluetooth controller support while connected.
Allowing PS3 and PS4 games to run on it would be the cherry on top. Playing my PS4 library on the go would be worth it alone.
They haven't marketed them like they market their games that are meant to appeal to western markets. Not that that would necessarily solve anything by itself, but it doesn't show a serious effort.
I see.
I've wondered at points if we'll eventually see games made in Japan that are still demonstrably made by Japanese devs, but tailored to Western audiences. Not like DmC or anything, but the idea that series would come out advertised more to people outside Japan who like their games.