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Hey people can we please stop the Christmas fireworks forever
- Thread starter Lant_War
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I made the hypothetical because it would be noise that is outside the norm. Of course some level of noise is going to happen on the holidays, we've already established that. There is a vast difference between fireworks and laughing- one causes animals and people with ptsd adverse effects, one does not. If anything my hypothetical is generous because it doesn't mention those things.
How is it unreasonable? If you are going to be the source of large amount of noise it should be base level decency to let people know about it who will be effected by it. If you can't even do that, that's pretty messed up. Maybe don't make so much noise.
Why should the onus be on the victims of the noise, and how would they even know when the noise would happen because as you've stated, it's unreasonable to give people a heads up. What is a pet owner isn't home when it happens? What if they are wearing headphones and their dog is in another room?
Nobody said anything about not celebrating. We are specifically talking about fireworks. I assure you the vast majority of people do not set off fireworks. It is objectively not easier for people effected by the noise to find a way to deal with it, that is an active action while not doing fireworks is the lack of action. And no, social change will not happen until people speak out, which is what I'm here doing.
It's not a great idea to count on police for anything. It would not have to get to that point if people who used fireworks would have some common courtesy.
Fireworks are permissible by law in my town from Christmas eve until January 3rd so I'll set some of if I damn well please.
Thankfully it's only 4th of July where I am. But the 4th of July is pretty much a month long for me. And all people fucking do in my city is light m80s or whatever other fireworks that just sound like loud booms.
I also have a dog and that freaks her out constantly. And I've lived in some bad neighborhoods in my life. Recently moved out of one where a police shootout almost happened next door to me.
So yeah, I'm the no fun allowed robot when it comes to fireworks. They can get fucked.
I also have a dog and that freaks her out constantly. And I've lived in some bad neighborhoods in my life. Recently moved out of one where a police shootout almost happened next door to me.
So yeah, I'm the no fun allowed robot when it comes to fireworks. They can get fucked.
I'm in a part of Australia where fireworks are illegal, there is currently a fire ban in place and people in the neighbourhood were still setting off a few.
It's close to New Years so people load up. Also, families like to light them off for their kids.
Could be some sort of sports. Around here people light off fireworks when the Seahawks win or score.
Sometimes I love not having neighbors... Living in the middle of bumblefuck .. population of 4 in the deepest darkest Pennines pays off for once.
Christmas fireworks... Fuck me have a word.. just get drunk and watch and Gavin and Stacey
Christmas fireworks... Fuck me have a word.. just get drunk and watch and Gavin and Stacey
Visiting family in GA. We're a little ways from ATL (Gwinnett County) but heard multiple houses shooting off fireworks around midnight. The scene where the army shoots down Jack Skellington in Nightmare Before Christmas kept playing through my head.
Never in my life have I heard of it, and thankfully it never happens anywhere I've lived. People really make up any kind of excuse to use fireworks, huh?
Hmm, I do have a bunch of leftover fireworks from the 4th of July and I hadn't even considered lighting them off for Christmas. Brb.
Those are the ones that people mostly like to fire. Imagine your neighbors tossing one out on the road every 5minutes, presumably drinking beers, for about the next four hours. You think you are about to fall asleep and then pop again. People do that shit.
In the US where I've lived fireworks on Christmas just seems weird to me. However, 6 days later on New Years Eve... that's when you should be lighting all your fireworks!
Not all dogs have problems with fireworks - in fact, that's a good way to train your dog to not be afraid, by introducing them to fireworks at a young age and showing them that it's not a big deal (another way, oddly, is to not comfort your dog during it - don't treat it like a big deal yourself and your dog may follow suit after a bit).
This is some screwy logic haha
A person having a pet does not effect the lives of the people around them, assuming they are good owners. That is entirely different than placing a burden on other people unwillingly.
It is wild the lengths people will go to justify bugging their neighbors and scaring animals.
Can we stop using fireworks during any holiday? or at the very least stop using them near peoples homes? They are very annoying when you're trying to get some sleep. And yeah the way they freak out animals is sad to see. Before he died I remember one of my dogs would hide in the bathroom & pee himself because of the noise. My current dogs don't that when they hear fireworks thankfully, but the sound still freaks them out.
I feel like, for the people who enjoy them, the response is "if you don't like it, put headphones on, move your dog to the basement if you have one, or just move."
Had about 15 minutes of them a few hours ago here in Round Rock, TX.
Never heard of fireworks for Christmas and they sound crazy, but I'm willing to bet the folks who put on and likely enjoyed the show didn't have dogs in mind, nevermind yours. If it's legal where you are, it's on you to handle the animals you chose to own.
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It does not take a rocket scientist to know that loud bangs are disturbing to the neighborhood even if they didn't have dogs, or people with ptsd, or children or adults trying to sleep in mind. Legal does not automatically equal appropriate, hate speech is legal.
I'm not a massive fan of fireworks, but you'll have an uphill battle arguing that fireworks, internationally central to countless holidays/traditions globally, are even loosely comparable to hate speech. Fireworks have a lot more going for them than legality.
I'm only making the comparison that not everything that is legal is inherently good or right, not placing fireworks and hate speech in the same category
I grew up with fireworks for New Years. Never heard of this Christmas tradition.
But here in Vancouver we have this bizarre tradition of enjoying fireworks during Halloween. Doing it on one of the rainiest months makes no sense to me but there you go.
But here in Vancouver we have this bizarre tradition of enjoying fireworks during Halloween. Doing it on one of the rainiest months makes no sense to me but there you go.
Yeah, I heard some faint pops earlier in my neighborhood. Pretty much any holiday someone in the area decides to pop off a couple, but normally nothing too serious. Thankfully my dog doesn't get bothered by fireworks, but it's annoying.
New Years is going to be a shit show.
New Years is going to be a shit show.
I addressed that. Even outside the law, there's a difference between what you value and what others might. A few encounters with fireworks a year in satisfaction of often broadly valued holiday traditions seem fine to me.
Full disclosure, I'm not concerned with dog problems, but I hope you'll enlighten me when it comes to the actual rates on interactions with PTSD. I haven't heard anything about it, but I could absolutely flip my view on the appropriateness of fireworks if they are more than incidentally problematic.
Loud noises can be a problem for many people
LOL dog owning OP complaining about fireworks disturbing dogs. How bout I (a non dog owning person) go on a rant about all the problems dogs cause?
Ok, and about babies who get scared and cry all night?
Not a parent so who cares?
I don't have numbers, it's not just veterans though to be fair. Survivors of gun violence, people with sensory disorders, or anxiety disorders could also be adversely effected, that is on top of people just trying to sleep or get their kids to sleep. I guess it comes down to how much of the peace of other human beings are you willing to risk to watch things go boom.
And sure, I'm not saying abolish fireworks necessarily, it can be done in a way where people are informed they will be happening at least. Check with your neighbors first. Towns can do them away from residential areas at scheduled times and give plenty of notice. If you value the peace of other people and animals, of course you're going to want to give a heads up.
There are quiet fireworks, in some places of my country only these are allowed.
Okay, what problems do responsibly trained and owned dogs have and how do they adversely effect your life unwillingly?
Responsible fireworks users wouldn't create disturbances either. So what's your point?
Is enjoying fireworks more important than dogs not being frightened by loud noises they don't understand?
Truly, one of the great debates of our age.
Truly, one of the great debates of our age.