Streaming the whole game is not comparable to cutscene videos though and i think it's well implemented. They probably could have done those scenes realtime with lower resolution which wouldn't have looked as good as it looks now.
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Hellblade Switch Analysis: Just How Close Is It To PS4? | Digital Foundry
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Streaming the whole game is not comparable to cutscene videos though and i think it's well implemented. They probably could have done those scenes realtime with lower resolution which wouldn't have looked as good as it looks now.
no but saying why rime ran like ass at 1st on the switch 'cause of bad coding and Ninja Theory did a better job coding on unral 4, also rime has issues on titan x cards i read some where
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I'm completely with you on this. While the transition from real-time to FMV shouldn't be an issue for most players on the Switch. For me, this cutback does somewhat take away from the technical accomplishment I had naively assumed a few days back.
I think it is very clever, an advancement of what Final Fantasy was doing in blurring FMV with gameplay way back. It is, fundamentally, a technical achievement in that sense.
Would have to be a beast. It's not even holding 720p in docked here. It's impressive for handheld but not so much docked IMO.
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The fade in/out is really good, I guess you can call that a technical achievement but it has less to do with any given hardware capability.
Final Fantasy 8 had a lot of these. You were still in full control too during several of the prerendered cutscenes. I thought that was really impressive back then.
Limited is what you should be using unless you are playing on a pc monitor.
I'd bet it's because a lot of the games cutscenes rely on the performance of Senuas actress. And that is portrayed through finely detailed animation and rendering (with a heavy dose of intensive effects) which likely couldn't be done justice on the Switch in a seamless way.
Just so you don't get people looking at your sideways in the future, game engines don't work this way re: being a fixed value required to run at a given resolution. You can make generalizations/estimations about GPU needs for specific titles, but low-level things like the engine itself don't usually determine it. UE4 specifically is so flexible, it wouldn't be a good example, anyway.
Not exactly. Limited RGB for low black level, full RGB for high black level. Most good TVs these days support full RGB.
That sound thing they noted in the video sounds like my TV does when I have surround turned off on the TV but have it turned on in the Switch settings. The sounds just fade away when they go to a surround channel that's deactivated.
Looks pretty rough across the board to me. Serviceable docked, but pretty atrocious in portable mode. The solution to maintain decent visuals in cut-scenes is good though. I think as is the case with most switch ports, if you're playing with no knowledge of the other versions, you'll likely be happy. Ignorance is bliss after all. But if you've played any of the other versions its a bit disappointing.
Because it's a thumbnail, . Do you think most people would assume that a thumbnail comparison for a graphic comparison video would think that they're 'clearly' comparing prerendered video to real-time graphics?
I know they say it in the video, that's how I know lol. I'm just talking about the thumbnail.
Well you have to seperate graphics from art style TBH. The rendering load is completely different despite both Arc System works games and NRS games being visually impressive. Guilty Gear Xrd was created for ps3 hardware after all, so the rendering pipline isnt very harsh on the hardware at all to start.
The docked Switch only boost the GPU speed by 2x, so you have to consider that when you consider how much a game can be enchanted in that mode.
It is my impression that the majority of the people who did play the original will be amazed that the game looks as good as it is on the portable console.
they are rerendered to match the games graphical settings. So it isn't like there's a ton of difference between them but obviously they are at a set full 720p resolution.
I have Steam, but I still got the Switch version simply because it's one of the few games really pushing the system to its limits.
But the frame rate is a pretty consistent 30fps.
Hellblade has terrible frame pacing on every console except Xbox One X.
Really impressive stuff there. I think QLOC made a lot of smart decisions on porting over such an graphically intense game to such a small platform. Lots of care went into making sure the art direction is retained despite the pared back visuals and the FMVs were a smart call on their part in order to make sure Hellblade's biggest moments aren't crippled by the Switch's weaker hardware.
That port definitely was no easy task for them, but I think they did a fantastic job in retaining the experience despite the massive gap in hardware strength between what the game was developed for and what this port is running on.
That port definitely was no easy task for them, but I think they did a fantastic job in retaining the experience despite the massive gap in hardware strength between what the game was developed for and what this port is running on.
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30fps requires proper frame pacing to feel good during gameplay.
Hellblade runs great on the higher end models.
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It still has bad framepacing on PS4 Pro. Only on Xbox One X is it completely smooth.
My statement about this earlier simplified too much. In the DF video of this, the PS4 runs at a dynamic 1080p at an uncapped framerate that usually hovers between 30-40fps.
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There's fluctuation on both machines, less so on the One X. Frame-pacing isn't really an issue if you're in fluctuating between 50 to 60fps.
...why is this a deal breaker? They're literally non-interactive scenes. The experience is identical.
I guess you missed the Vita ;)
We're talking about the minimum resolution, on a portable device, which also has a pretty effective AA filter applied on top. I really think it's fine.
Hey, it's higher than Xenoblade 2's resolution!
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XBOX mostly does hit 60fps but PS4Pro doesn't maintain 60fps nearly as consistently. Also it runs much lower res for that mode (usually 900p, even lower than base PS4 usually), if you want 1440p dynamic you're looking at 30-40fps with worse judder than Switch even.
Yeah, if anything, FMVs are better than real-time cutscenes since the FMVs are higher fidelity than what the Switch could output in real time.
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I know, you're repeating what I said earlier.
Sacrificing resolution for a 60fps option can only be a good thing. Neither is ideal, but I prefer unlocked frame-rate over wonky frame pacing.
Yeah I get that it's impressive by the standards of the hardware they're working with but I have no idea why anyone would want to play it like this when literally every other version of it is objectively better from a performance and presentation standpoint. Losing the lighting quality is understandable but tremendously compromising. It does not look good.
I'mjust adding more information. The XBOX version rarely drops below 60fps while PS4Pro rarely maintains it. PS4Pro still studders at choke points too, it's not as smooth.
I mean, sure but 900p average res for PS4 Pro? And that's not the floor either, it can drop even lower. In the high res mode the judder is terrible too, again this doesn't seem to be something only impacting Switch but all versions.
I thought they rolled out a patch to fix it (or at least on the high resolution PS4 pro mode)
Haven't seen this DF video yet, so apologies if it says different.
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Oh, you're right. It came late last year and capped framerate at 30fps.