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Senua's Saga: Hellblade II announced (Xbox Series X)
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I think so, but Senua's Sacrifice is on PS4 and Switch too.
I feel the same way with things like the Adaptive Controller that Microsoft put out. Sony should be supporting that device, there are both software and hardware that exist predominantly to promote positive social change, and I think it's better that those types projects are device agnostic wherever possible.
This goes against everything Hellblade stood for.
Hellblade was made with the goal of representing mental health issues. The Monsters, the horrors, the nightmares, all of them fantasies created by Senua's mind and because of her condition. The game was made to be unsettling, to tell its audience that the monsters are not real.
What I see in front of myself is Ninja Theory ditching all that, treating those fantasies as a real thing, and making a game world out of it; prioritizing franchising rather than their message of promoting mental health awareness.
The biggest problem is bringing back Senua. She's become an icon for mental health awareness. We know her background, some reasons on why she's suffering from mental issues, how she got to the point in the story of the game, and how that story concludes.
There were no fights with monsters; there were no real fights happening at all. All of it was happening in Senua's head.
Another viking action game, or even another Hellblade game would've been okay, but bringing Senua back, considering the story of the first game, only shows that Ninja Theory is capitalizing on her popularity and disregarding everything they worked for in the first game.
Hellblade was made with the goal of representing mental health issues. The Monsters, the horrors, the nightmares, all of them fantasies created by Senua's mind and because of her condition. The game was made to be unsettling, to tell its audience that the monsters are not real.
What I see in front of myself is Ninja Theory ditching all that, treating those fantasies as a real thing, and making a game world out of it; prioritizing franchising rather than their message of promoting mental health awareness.
The biggest problem is bringing back Senua. She's become an icon for mental health awareness. We know her background, some reasons on why she's suffering from mental issues, how she got to the point in the story of the game, and how that story concludes.
There were no fights with monsters; there were no real fights happening at all. All of it was happening in Senua's head.
Another viking action game, or even another Hellblade game would've been okay, but bringing Senua back, considering the story of the first game, only shows that Ninja Theory is capitalizing on her popularity and disregarding everything they worked for in the first game.
This will launch on Xbox consoles, PCs and any mobile device trough Xcloud... this will be way more accessible than the first one tho?
Pretty much exactly my thoughts...
We'll see if the next trailers can redeem it a bit, because this one was certainly worrying.
mario, sonic, crash, and senua
peas in a pod
edit: actually that order is a pretty good scale from normal to completely insane
Naughty Dog uses facial capture data to hand animate character faces, taking liberties in constructing facial expressions depending on what is directed. It's done in post. What Ninja Theory does is different - they have a mounted camera that embeds the live performance - their actual face - straight into UE4's Sequencer Editor tool used for cutscenes. It's crazy.
Game gets a sequel and is a singleplayer game published by MS. Comments here: This is just a cashgrab, or why is this even a sequel ...
Ah well. MS always loses
Ah well. MS always loses
I thought initially it was someone else, not her. Why did NT go thos route? Hellblade is one of my fav games because of the themes it explored. I'm so incredibly disappointed.
The original teaser trailer for the first game also indicated nothing about mental health issues being the subject of the game.
Best not to jump the gun considering how they handled the first game.
What you're describing isn't an ND specific thing. Ninja Theory's animators go in and edit the data as well after it's captured. EVERY game studio utilizing that technology does. What NT did was research a method that could provide really good results before the nitty gritty.
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Don't think you put enough thought into why people are critiquing the idea of a sequel to Hellblade,
For real though, Ninja Theory went from worrying about making payroll to blowing the lid off of the next console generation with probably the most graphically impressive trailer ever made.
Xbox division is firing on all cylinders right now and the next couple of years are going to be a fucking ride.
Xbox division is firing on all cylinders right now and the next couple of years are going to be a fucking ride.
...Which doesn't mean the gameplay will look like that. A lot of games this gen have gorgeous cutscenes that make the in-game gameplay look far less detailed in comparison. When you're only rendering what's in the cutscene and not the world around it, you can focus entirely on just those models, which allows for more detail than you'd see in actual gameplay. More detail, more animation.
Graphics look great. Will be interesting to see if our current top tier PC GPUs can run it at 60fps 1440p or higher.
While I definitely get the concern I think it would be best until we know or hear more about the title rather than making harsh declarative statements. I also think that there's also a lot more room for Hellblade to delve into mental health as a whole and while the monsters aren't real in some cases, they can be very real in others and I don't think a game about learning to deal with the real monsters would be all that bad either. But again, it depends on how the whole project shakes out. Maybe they're using the increased budget to really fulfil a vision of the first game that they couldn't really execute on with its circumstances. There's a lot of room to do interesting and cool stuff.
Pls read what i was replying to. Never said anything about gameplay.
That's true. Being on xCloud should help accessibility, but it's worth noting that we don't really know what those services are going to look like, or how good they're going to be. If Stadia is anything to go by, then cloud gaming is still quite far removed from being an good way to play a game for most people.
I agree with this wholeheartedly. This is what I was worried about when they were acquired, that Hellblade would be designed to entertain, rather than for social change. It misses the point.
With that said, I'm open to being wrong. We've only seen a brief trailer, the game may be very different but the tone of what we've seen definitely seems to miss the mark.
Yeah I remember that Uncharted 3 and TLOU in engine announcement trailers
The final game didnt look like that at all, so yeah, that is why I am skeptical with the in engine wording
You should play the game first before coming to such conclusions.
I don't think you can say all that when it's just a teaser. No gameplay or plot points were revealed. For all we know this could be a story about Senua hunting down the vikings who killed her husband and the religious/supernatural stuff like the troll shown in the trailer is all in her head?
Might as well call for them to give out free consoles so everyone gets to play it.
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ifs getting a release on xbox, PC and hundreds of millions of phones and ultra books via xCloud.
Gotta be honest that trailer just pissed me off with seeing her face look so fucking dumb doing that shouting.
Wonder if the games visuals will actually look like that, knowing console launches and "in engine footage" I severely doubt it.
Wonder if the games visuals will actually look like that, knowing console launches and "in engine footage" I severely doubt it.
It was. Shame it came so early. They could have closed on this.
Ninja Theory usually does this. Even back in Heavenly Sword's cutscenes, there was usually some kind of over-acted shouting or screaming to heighten the "emotion" in the scene. It got kind of annoying after awhile lol.
This is word for word exactly what I think about this trailer. I saw the doc they did, and the years of mental health counsel they got to get all the elements of hellblade just right, and for the life of me I cannot see where they could go to further the themes they so brilliantly did in hellblade one, or even what themes they can go for now taking into accountthe senua we saw at the end of hellblade one.
Senua is not a badass warrior, that was the point. She was a prisioner of trauma. This trailer shows her angry and battle ready. Its not the same senua I know.
Man I want to be wrong so much
Don't have any plans for buying the next Xbox but that was the most impressive real-time trailer I've even seen. I'll reserve judgement about the themes of the game until I know more because, duh. Seriously doubt that team would just derp out and go full fantasy killing spree game after how they handled the last game, not only in their game but also in their words and actions after release. But, again, I'll wait and see
- Hellblade was a passion project made with a 20 person team. It's naïve to think they would make a niche game with a much more expensive team.
- Just because Hellblade 2 expands the fantasy to become more mainstream doesn't mean it can't carry some of the same messaging from the first game. It can be more metaphorical.
- Hellblade 1 doesn't cease to exist due to Hellblade 2...regardless of what they do.
