That's a good point.
Not every card you need to craft will necessarily get nerfed.
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True. I figured there were some obvious trouble cards, but yeah some of the Galakrond invoke cards might be a lot weaker if some synergy cards get nerfed.
To be fair I spent way more dust crafting highlander mage
I think it was like 11k or something
I think it was like 11k or something
I think they just severely underestimated shaman invoke.
I made a nerf wish list lol...
nerf wish list:
Shaman invoke is made 1/1
shudderwock applies to minions only (maybe weapons too? but not hero cards)
face collector is now a 4/4
mutate is now 1 mana
Also, rename the expansion descent of sanity
I made a nerf wish list lol...
nerf wish list:
Shaman invoke is made 1/1
shudderwock applies to minions only (maybe weapons too? but not hero cards)
face collector is now a 4/4
mutate is now 1 mana
Also, rename the expansion descent of sanity
Plenty of shaman not running quest and out performing the quest version.
Well I hope the cards they nerf are the ones I crafted.....
I crafted Shudderwock and Barista Lynchen
I crafted Shudderwock and Barista Lynchen
Currently 4-1 against Shaman with this Priest deck. Small sample size and all that, but if you account for the swing turns it feels winnable. Save Mass Hysteria for the Galakrond, use Wild Pyro to get rid of the smaller tokens and abuse the fact that they hardly use removal.
### Sathrovarr
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
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# 2x (0) Circle of Healing
# 2x (0) Forbidden Words
# 2x (0) Lazul's Scheme
# 2x (0) Regenerate
# 2x (0) Silence
# 2x (0) Topsy Turvy
# 1x (0) Whispers of EVIL
# 1x (2) Divine Hymn
# 2x (2) Holy Ripple
# 2x (2) Seance
# 2x (2) Wild Pyromancer
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 1x (4) Witchwood Piper
# 1x (5) Mass Hysteria
# 2x (6) Gadgetzan Auctioneer
# 1x (7) Chef Nomi
# 1x (9) Sathrovarr
# 1x (12) Grave Horror
#
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It's a fun deck to pilot outside of that, bit difficult sometimes.
EDIT: The idea is to use Sathrovarr to gather an army of 0 mana Grave Horrors together with Seance. Gadgetzan with all the 0 mana spells makes you quickly go through your deck, so you can also combine Sance with Nomi. You want to wait after Galakrond though, as the 8/8's trade favorly against your Horrors.
### Sathrovarr
# Class: Priest
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (0) Circle of Healing
# 2x (0) Forbidden Words
# 2x (0) Lazul's Scheme
# 2x (0) Regenerate
# 2x (0) Silence
# 2x (0) Topsy Turvy
# 1x (0) Whispers of EVIL
# 1x (2) Divine Hymn
# 2x (2) Holy Ripple
# 2x (2) Seance
# 2x (2) Wild Pyromancer
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 2x (3) Acolyte of Pain
# 1x (4) Witchwood Piper
# 1x (5) Mass Hysteria
# 2x (6) Gadgetzan Auctioneer
# 1x (7) Chef Nomi
# 1x (9) Sathrovarr
# 1x (12) Grave Horror
#
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It's a fun deck to pilot outside of that, bit difficult sometimes.
EDIT: The idea is to use Sathrovarr to gather an army of 0 mana Grave Horrors together with Seance. Gadgetzan with all the 0 mana spells makes you quickly go through your deck, so you can also combine Sance with Nomi. You want to wait after Galakrond though, as the 8/8's trade favorly against your Horrors.
I think the best nerf would be nerf Galakrond to summon 3/3s and then 6/6s upgraded, they can keep rush. Then change the double invoke to a single invoke. This is based on my gut feeling of the OPness and thus should be 100% the best solution. 👍
1/1s with rush isn't a bad idea for nerfing the invoke too. But it feels like they should nerf either Galakrond's battlecry or invoke, but both would be overkill.
1/1s with rush isn't a bad idea for nerfing the invoke too. But it feels like they should nerf either Galakrond's battlecry or invoke, but both would be overkill.
I feel like Shudderwock isn't even played a lot of the time. They usually dominate the board before then. Faceless Corruptor makes the Shudder super powerful anyways.
Also saw the potential swap to the tokens Galakrond summons. Rather than 2/1 --> 4/4 --> 8/8 it would go 2/1 --> 4/2 --> 8/4, doubling stats but making them glass cannons. I don't think Galakrond is the biggest issue with the deck though, Shudder + double invoke moreso. And Faceless Corruptor of course.
Highlander dragon mage is way too strong. I just went from ranking 8 to 5 with just a single loss.
Which one are you working with? I love the deck archetype.
I hope Highlander Mage doesn't take over after whatever changes come. That deck is ridiculously expensive.
I think it's going to be Highlander everything to be honest. Zephrys and Alex are both crazy broken.
I'm using this one:
### Highlander Mage
# Class: Mage
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 1x (1) Arcane Breath
# 1x (1) Ray of Frost
# 1x (2) Doomsayer
# 1x (2) Firetree Witchdoctor
# 1x (2) Frostbolt
# 1x (2) Zephrys the Great
# 1x (3) Arcane Intellect
# 1x (3) Frost Nova
# 1x (3) Scalerider
# 1x (3) SN1P-SN4P
# 1x (4) Arcane Keysmith
# 1x (4) Azure Explorer
# 1x (4) Polymorph
# 1x (4) Twilight Drake
# 1x (5) Big Ol' Whelp
# 1x (5) Cobalt Spellkin
# 1x (5) Malygos, Aspect of Magic
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 1x (6) Blizzard
# 1x (6) Dragoncaster
# 1x (6) Reno the Relicologist
# 1x (7) Crowd Roaster
# 1x (7) Flamestrike
# 1x (7) Siamat
# 1x (8) Power of Creation
# 1x (8) Tortollan Pilgrim
# 1x (9) Alexstrasza
# 1x (9) Dragonqueen Alexstrasza
# 1x (10) Kalecgos
# 1x (10) Puzzle Box of Yogg-Saron
#
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
It's a really fun deck, I'm loving this expansion so far.
Edit: Oops, the cards are written in portuguse, but the code will work anyway. Will update soon with the cards in english.
Edit2: Updated with the english cards.
Is Shudderwock bugged or something? Every single Shaman I've played (which is most of my matches), they've played Kronx to draw Galakrond and then Shudderwock and every single time Kronx has used the +2/+2 buff. Shouldn't it be a random Devastation? So at least occasionally it'd do something else, like maybe deal 5 damage to their entire board?
It's already hard enough to actually win when they get so much out of Shudderwock but why does it always have to fill their board and then buff it?
Is there even a consistent way to win besides playing an aggro deck that kills them before turn 9? I'm playing around with a Dragon Mage deck (not Reno or whatever it's called these days) and I do consistently well against everyone but Shaman because of that exact combo that happens every game without fail.
It's already hard enough to actually win when they get so much out of Shudderwock but why does it always have to fill their board and then buff it?
Is there even a consistent way to win besides playing an aggro deck that kills them before turn 9? I'm playing around with a Dragon Mage deck (not Reno or whatever it's called these days) and I do consistently well against everyone but Shaman because of that exact combo that happens every game without fail.
Tried out Kibler's Ramp Dragon Druid, Strength in Numbers is pretty damn filthy. Pulled Deathwing out of my deck on turn 5 against a Shaman, lights out.
I've had a mix. Have had 8/8 with taunt when the board was already full and give everything 2/2 as the first battlecry with an empty board
I was dropping ranks so I'm playing Embiggen Dragons at rank 10. It's actually pretty fun so far. I could maybe climb ranks with Quest Hunter but that deck didn't feel that different from last set so I'd rather try something new. Galakrond Rogue is a bit better so I might do that at some point to shoot for rank 5.
Quest Hunter feels a lot better to me this season personally.
Gala Rogue seems quite good too. I've played it a bit so far and I like it a lot.
I'm gonna try some Quest Hunter and refine Druid another time. I crafted Shu'ma just to make the deck feel a bit newer. I'm still running Veranus too and Diving Gryphon is surprisingly good too.
Yea....shaman is too strong, I'm barely hanging on in some games but then I play Galakrond and easily take back control and, if that doesn't win the game, shudderwock seals it next turn
Especially if far sight draws Galakrond lol, 4 mana galakrond is nasty
Especially if far sight draws Galakrond lol, 4 mana galakrond is nasty
Been running Electra Stormsurge to get two sets of wolves. Another funny board to watch people try and deal with
### IQ test
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Clear the Way
# 2x (1) Springpaw
# 1x (1) Unseal the Vault
# 2x (2) Hench-Clan Hogsteed
# 2x (2) Questing Explorer
# 2x (2) Revenge of the Wild
# 1x (3) Desert Hare
# 2x (3) Desert Spear
# 2x (3) Diving Gryphon
# 1x (3) SN1P-SN4P
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (4) Cult Master
# 2x (5) Faceless Corruptor
# 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Swarm of Locusts
# 1x (6) Veranus
# 1x (7) Shu'ma
#
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# To use this deck, copy it to your clipboard and create a new deck in Hearthstone
so far so good.
# Class: Hunter
# Format: Standard
# Year of the Dragon
#
# 2x (1) Clear the Way
# 2x (1) Springpaw
# 1x (1) Unseal the Vault
# 2x (2) Hench-Clan Hogsteed
# 2x (2) Questing Explorer
# 2x (2) Revenge of the Wild
# 1x (3) Desert Hare
# 2x (3) Desert Spear
# 2x (3) Diving Gryphon
# 1x (3) SN1P-SN4P
# 2x (3) Unleash the Hounds
# 2x (4) Cult Master
# 2x (5) Faceless Corruptor
# 1x (5) Halazzi, the Lynx
# 1x (5) Leeroy Jenkins
# 1x (5) Zilliax
# 2x (6) Swarm of Locusts
# 1x (6) Veranus
# 1x (7) Shu'ma
#
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this is the one I made. took out Giants and animal companion. added Cult Master x2 because of the amount of time I lost from not having material to complete the quest and control the board with.
so far so good.
Really nice list. I like how shum'ma has to be respected.... the animation is pretty sick too
Thanks. I've been playing boarcontrol's which seems fine so far. But options are always good!
Love it.Oh, hello there OTK paladin!
I never seen someone concede so fast from 30hp.
LOL
I'm seeing a lot of OTK Paladin right now. Is it a decent answer to Shaman or something? It's kinda making me consider crafting the Rogue legendary
Yes. ~57% against Galakrond, ~62% against Quest Galakrond.
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