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HBO's Lovecraft Country |OT| 1950s Jim Crow Lovecraftian Horror by Misha Green (83 on MC)
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Kinda disappointed, like literally everything in this episode would have been solved if people actually talked to each other.
Then again...that's most of the show.
Also kinda pissed about
Even with my criticisms, i did love this show. I do hope it comes back, but instead like another posted, have it like ahs.
Then again...that's most of the show.
Also kinda pissed about
ruby....really felt like again lesbians dying. Which doesn't even make sense, as christina made sure leti didn't die. But she goes and kills ruby? Unless she just put her in a comatose state that could be reversed.
Even with my criticisms, i did love this show. I do hope it comes back, but instead like another posted, have it like ahs.
Is it really that surprising Christina would do that? Literally nothing will get in the way of her goal. And if Ruby's gonna betray her, well she's now disposable.
She only promised to keep Leti safe after all
She only promised to keep Leti safe after all
I think it clearly shows Christina actually loving Ruby on some levels in her own monstrous fucked up way.
If the show does get a season 2 there are a number of directions the show could explore (The showrunner Misha Green has talked about this). Whether you do something with Tic's son, or introduce a whole new cast of characters with maybe some Season 1 characters sprinkled in. The core concept she has in mind is really exploring genre (horror, sci-fi, etc) with people of color who aren't normally seen in that space.
On the series as a whole there were definitely some exceptional moments, mixed with some mediocre elements as they seemed to take a grab bag approach to things with a lot of stuff sprinkled in. As a result some of the overall plotting and character moments didn't hit as hard and could have used more focus, but the overall package was entertaining and kept me looking forward to the show every Sunday because I didn't know what to expect .
There were definitely moments I haven't seen before on any show from the body transformations to interdimensional travel.
I do hope the show gets a Season 2.
On the series as a whole there were definitely some exceptional moments, mixed with some mediocre elements as they seemed to take a grab bag approach to things with a lot of stuff sprinkled in. As a result some of the overall plotting and character moments didn't hit as hard and could have used more focus, but the overall package was entertaining and kept me looking forward to the show every Sunday because I didn't know what to expect .
There were definitely moments I haven't seen before on any show from the body transformations to interdimensional travel.
I do hope the show gets a Season 2.
To keep her word as one final nod to what she felt for Ruby.
Also she's not overtly malicious. She's driven in achieving her goal, but isn't particularly interested in spilling more blood than necessary. You could just as easily say there's no strong reason for her to kill Leti.
What can be said to prevent a sacrifice?
'Do you really want immortality?'
I guess so, but my god that's fucked up.
I mean, christina seems to be a person of her word? Sooo if they just agreed to her terms, people would still be alive.
Man I'm still salty about Ruby
I mean, christina seems to be a person of her word? Sooo if they just agreed to her terms, people would still be alive.
also, I'm bettin leti told ruby about her loss of invulnerability. Wonder what would have happened if ruby just straight up asked...like she's done before.
Man I'm still salty about Ruby
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Well that was a great finale. I'm speculating on a season 2 in the spoilers.
So I've been thinking for a while now that this show might make each season a self contained story focusing on a different member of the Freeman family. This was Tic's story. Next season is gonna be George Jr's and so on after that. With each season introducing a new threat. Or handling old ones. (I actually thought Christina was gonna become immortal and be the long running antagonist of the series. But yeah tha didn't happen.) But with Dee clearly being the woman who gave Tic the copy of "Lovecraft Country" in the future. This series has room to grow. Look forward to season 2.
Very uneven show. Some truly exceptional writing and then some really terrible overwrought emotional beats all jammed in together.
I was disappointed with Christina
Overall I enjoyed the show. But I feel like there was a lot of sloppy moments especially in the emotional beats. and the ending just really failed to deliver.
I was disappointed with Christina
they went to a lot of work humanizing her then to only sort of revoke it and say she's just blandly evil at the end.
I don't feel like the whole "magic is only for black people now" ending was set up very well. it's like the show told me the stakes after it had already resolved the tension.
I don't really get why Dee has a shoggoth now. Wish they would have explained that.
The story never really resolved Montrose just straight up murdering yahima. Like why am I rooting for these people when they're doing this horrible shit?
Loved the scene where Atticus apologized to Ji-Ah. That character got short shrift but I like how they showed the main character thinking better of his mistakes.
I don't feel like the whole "magic is only for black people now" ending was set up very well. it's like the show told me the stakes after it had already resolved the tension.
I don't really get why Dee has a shoggoth now. Wish they would have explained that.
The story never really resolved Montrose just straight up murdering yahima. Like why am I rooting for these people when they're doing this horrible shit?
Loved the scene where Atticus apologized to Ji-Ah. That character got short shrift but I like how they showed the main character thinking better of his mistakes.
Well, GODDAMN! That was a strong season finale.
For me, the season really came into its own in the last few episodes. I really want a season two so we can further expand on these stories and spells from the Book of Names.
I haven't read the book, but is the ending more or less the same?
One of the best scenes of the finale was the very beginning where Tic and Leti were on the other side with the dead. The other was the car scene because you know something this lighthearted always comes before tragedy.
WTF at the Ruby twist? I initially thought that Christina might have been Ruby when she appeared right before the aforementioned car scene, but she pulled out the flask and I thought all was well. :(
It's fucked up that there wasn't really a final moment with Ruby. She just got killed off-screen. The only way I can see this being undone is in a Season 2.
Kind of bummed that Tic really ended up dying though. The way it kept being mentioned made me believe it wasn't going to happen.
The women came to save the day one last time! lol
Ji-Ah and Leti reversed the whole spell and took all magic away from white people! Ha! That's what I'm talking about.
And freaking DEE came in with the MECHANICAL ARM!! The woman from the future that gave Tic the book was HER????
If Tic is really done, let Dee be the main character of the second season. Give us adventures with her and her pet shoggoth.
WTF at the Ruby twist? I initially thought that Christina might have been Ruby when she appeared right before the aforementioned car scene, but she pulled out the flask and I thought all was well. :(
It's fucked up that there wasn't really a final moment with Ruby. She just got killed off-screen. The only way I can see this being undone is in a Season 2.
Kind of bummed that Tic really ended up dying though. The way it kept being mentioned made me believe it wasn't going to happen.
The women came to save the day one last time! lol
Ji-Ah and Leti reversed the whole spell and took all magic away from white people! Ha! That's what I'm talking about.
And freaking DEE came in with the MECHANICAL ARM!! The woman from the future that gave Tic the book was HER????
If Tic is really done, let Dee be the main character of the second season. Give us adventures with her and her pet shoggoth.
For me, the season really came into its own in the last few episodes. I really want a season two so we can further expand on these stories and spells from the Book of Names.
I haven't read the book, but is the ending more or less the same?
Great finale! One of my favorite shows of the last few years! Some of the things during the season were nothing short of genius. I'm so glad this show exists.
After being spoiled on the stuff regarding Till, I elected to bail on the show. Not a brutality I particularly care to witness. I love the show, but I hit a wall and am wondering if I should return to see it through.
It was only really set up in this episode, yeah, but technically it's been in the works for hundreds of years lol.
It's the family pet Shoggoth, It most likely simply followed where ever Tic went. Shame he only had one, it would've been SUPER useful either on the bridge or freeing him.
One of the writers/directors admits this is a fault of their story telling and wish they could fix. I think in the end it just shows Montrose would do WHATEVER to protect his family, and he obviously felt some way about it because after Tic kicked his ass he went mute for a while, but I agree it sucks he did that.
I wouldn't mind if next season followed Ji-Ah a bit more, or had a korean setting, could be very interesting. Supposedly there is some kind of monster ( yeongno ) that has to eat 100 rich people to go to heaven, I'd be down for an episode like that.
It's the family pet Shoggoth, It most likely simply followed where ever Tic went. Shame he only had one, it would've been SUPER useful either on the bridge or freeing him.
One of the writers/directors admits this is a fault of their story telling and wish they could fix. I think in the end it just shows Montrose would do WHATEVER to protect his family, and he obviously felt some way about it because after Tic kicked his ass he went mute for a while, but I agree it sucks he did that.
I wouldn't mind if next season followed Ji-Ah a bit more, or had a korean setting, could be very interesting. Supposedly there is some kind of monster ( yeongno ) that has to eat 100 rich people to go to heaven, I'd be down for an episode like that.
Read the book last year and really enjoyed it. Then this show came along and the perspective and direction that Misha Green and her writers have brought just took it into the stratosphere. Frankly the book can't (and could never) touch what the show has done and if it ends here as a standalone series, I'm good with that. But the possibility space they've created-- be it in continuing the story of the Freeman's or going in an anthology direction and focusing on Black futurism and horror... fuck I'm here for that as well.
They show it when Ji-Ah is flashing through the memories at the end. Tic has her place her hand on its head as a way to imprint Dee on the Shoggoth/pass on ownership to her
I know it probably would have spoiled the reveal but
I would have really liked to have seen that moment where Tic introduces Dee to the shoggoth. I think that would have been nice since the two of them have barely had any real standout moments together.
I was pretty dejected after this season finale. My sister was also kinda pissed off :p
I think it's because the season finale and payoffs could have been stronger; but I think it's mostly because we just miss the show already, and dread waiting months to see whats next lol
sidenote: That little moment with Tic and Ji-Ah got me.
It took me a couple episodes before the show clicked and I got a better sense of what they were going for, but even since then it's been my show. Plenty moments that amazed and surprised me.
I think it's because the season finale and payoffs could have been stronger; but I think it's mostly because we just miss the show already, and dread waiting months to see whats next lol
sidenote: That little moment with Tic and Ji-Ah got me.
It took me a couple episodes before the show clicked and I got a better sense of what they were going for, but even since then it's been my show. Plenty moments that amazed and surprised me.
I thought this was episode was rough like right up there with Episode 2 in terms of confusing, disjointed structure. I haven't had issues with the music choices throughout the season but two of the songs in this ep (with Tic and Letty in the elevator and when Tic was being sliced up at the end) were just super out of place and jarring. Whatever meaning was behind their inclusion wasn't worth the clash imo.
I also thought the flashes of explanation (Tic showing Dee the Shoggoth, Tic getting baptised etc) was a super confusing and uninteresting way to explain that stuff.
Dee with a shoggoth pet and robot arm is fucking sick though. Hope for a time jump second season in a future where black people have magic and white people don't lol.
I also thought the flashes of explanation (Tic showing Dee the Shoggoth, Tic getting baptised etc) was a super confusing and uninteresting way to explain that stuff.
Dee with a shoggoth pet and robot arm is fucking sick though. Hope for a time jump second season in a future where black people have magic and white people don't lol.
Unfortunately I thought this was one of the weaker episodes of the series. The. show had incredible highs. The pilot is a masterpiece and could have been a move in and of itself. But the unevenness was giving me True Blood PTSD.
On a side note, as a major Lovecraft fan, it was difficult to move past my expectations of there being much more direct Lovecraft horror versus the reality of there essentially being none. I think that led me to get my hopes up every week for some kind of easter egg.
On a side note, as a major Lovecraft fan, it was difficult to move past my expectations of there being much more direct Lovecraft horror versus the reality of there essentially being none. I think that led me to get my hopes up every week for some kind of easter egg.
I enjoyed episode 5, and 6 was really good, definitely the best of the season, till now. Episode 7 on the other hand
was one of the worst things i have ever seen, hated every part of it...
3 Episodes left for me, still have no idea what to think about this show. It definitely has it's really good moments, but also very bad ones.
This is when I knew something was going to go wrong. I was watching it like "Nah, they too happy... There's too much joy in this moment - something's up."
Listening to Lovecraft Country radio. They say "this season" a lot. I don't think that this is the end.
Don't think I've seen a show in recent memory with so much difference in quality with every episode. Excellent pilot, episodes 6 and 8, mediocre and run-of-the-mill stuff in between, OKAY second last episode, and a downright terrible finale ripped right out of Supernatural.
I'm not sure how they'll make a season 2. Maybe they can do a story around Innsmouth or another take on Red Hook like The Ballad of Black Tom (or just adapt that novella)
In the flashbacks did anyone else notice a flash of Ruby
Maybe I interpreted it wrong .
lying in the bed in a coma like David, meaning maybe she's not dead?
Maybe! I guess we'll see if there's a second season.
The only thing I didn't quite understand in this episode is
how Leti didn't die because of her fall. I thought her invulnerability spell had been removed?