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famikon

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Oct 25, 2017
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Apparently, in Hollywood there was attempt to make movie based on Chernobyl tragedy in late 80s, script was written by Ales Adamovich (he also wrote script for movie "Come and See" about WWII) and should be directed by Stanley Kramer:

In 1987, Ales Adamovich finished the script "… This is the name of the star Chernobyl" for the feature film, which was to be directed by the famous American Stanley Kramer. The script has already been approved by the film company Columbia Pictures. It is a pity that Kramer was unable to shoot the picture for personal reasons, because then there could be a landmark film that would bring to humanity the scale of the accident and the misfortune of the Belarusian people.
 

voodoo

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Oct 26, 2017
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Last scene was hard to watch. At least for me.

It was interesting to hear on the podcast that they had scaled back some of the graphic scenes, including one scene not filmed at all. Was also interested to hear that the KGB prison was a real one, with more info on some of their methods of interrogation not depicted in the show.

The accompany podcast for this show is a must listen, as they go into a lot of details, including explaining why there are differences from history (such as consolidating multiple characters in real life to a single invented person).

I listen to it via the pocketcasts app, but here's a soundcloud link as well:

https://soundcloud.com/thechernobylpodcast
 

Ebullientprism

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It was interesting to hear on the podcast that they had scaled back some of the graphic scenes, including one scene not filmed at all. Was also interested to hear that the KGB prison was a real one, with more info on some of their methods of interrogation not depicted in the show.

The accompany podcast for this show is a must listen, as they go into a lot of details, including explaining why there are differences from history (such as consolidating multiple characters in real life to a single invented person).

I listen to it via the pocketcasts app, but here's a soundcloud link as well:

https://soundcloud.com/thechernobylpodcast

There is a really great bit in the podcast where they mention how NOT showing you something extremely graphic/horrific is actually worse than showing it (they are specifically talking about not showing the guy whose face has melted off). I never really thought about it that way but its so on point. The movies that I found most unsettling (Se7en, Blair Witch etc) never really showed the worst parts of the carnage, they just let your brain fill in the blanks. That can do something that just random gore/blood can never do.

Anyway, this is a really smart, thoughtfully made show. And the acting is phenomenal. Been recommending it to everyone.
 

SoH

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Oct 25, 2017
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Excellent interview with Higginbotham about Midnight in Chernobyl to help pass the time until the next episode.




Bonus interview with Jared Harris. They get a tiny bit into stuff coming up probably in episode 5 around 12:50 - 14:30 if you want to avoid as well as some general spoilers in other stuff he has been in are sprinkled throughout.
 

RedMercury

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I get that not showing stuff is powerful but for the sake of the show they should have shown it. You're on HBO, and it would fit with the tone of the show.
 

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BrassDragon

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I get that not showing stuff is powerful but for the sake of the show they should have shown it. You're on HBO, and it would fit with the tone of the show.

In addition to the podcast explanation, I also think the hospital interview with Akimov was a dramatic turning point: it's when professor Khomyuk realises...
that there might be a systemic failure rather than simple operator error
... which sets a whole new plot in motion. I don't think the key plot point would have come across if the audience was coping with the image of a man's decomposing face... focusing on Khomyuk's reactions as she processes the truth of what happened was the right choice.
 

SoH

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The line between honest portrayal of suffering and exploitative gore is razor thin. I also agree they made the right choice of what was enough. I could see the argument for restraining even a little further. The producer's comment about lingering too much was dead on. Less is more.
 

Daingurse

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The line between honest portrayal of suffering and exploitative gore is razor thin. I also agree they made the right choice of what was enough. I could see the argument for restraining even a little further. The producer's comment about lingering too much was dead on. Less is more.
And it's not like what we did see, wasn't horrific anyway. Not showing Akimov's face spoke volumes. I thought it was a very effective choice.
 

Kill3r7

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Excellent interview with Higginbotham about Midnight in Chernobyl to help pass the time until the next episode.




Bonus interview with Jared Harris. They get a tiny bit into stuff coming up probably in episode 5 around 12:50 - 14:30 if you want to avoid as well as some general spoilers in other stuff he has been in are sprinkled throughout.


One of the more memorable things from Midnight In Chernobyl is the description of how the grass beneath the helicopters kept dying from all the radiation.
 

Spoder

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Oct 24, 2017
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The injury of those people in the third episode... phew.
The makeup is really top notch and I'm glad they show some restraint.

The firefighter's wife is doing all the things that she shouldn't. If it's a fictional story, I would have thought it's a bad writing but since it's actually the truth, I really feel for her and her situation. I can't imagine how can she endure watching her loved one perished like that in front of her.
 

HotHamBoy

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Oct 27, 2017
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This show made me believe in euthanasia

Also, Jared Harris sure likes to play characters that
hang themselves.
 
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antonz

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And it's not like what we did see, wasn't horrific anyway. Not showing Akimov's face spoke volumes. I thought it was a very effective choice.
Absolutely. I mean when we see the firefighter for the last time he looks straight up monstrous in how much his body has already decomposed and rotted away. Knowing that was not even how bad it can get is something to let the mind consider instead of going for gore porn. if someone has to see it they can look up Hisashi Ouchi. What the Japanese did with him was beyond barbaric. Someone should have had the moral courage to end that mans suffering as he wanted.
Big time warning though. Do not search for Hisashi Ouchi if you are not prepared for something straight out of horror hell.
 
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jizzywinks

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The girlfriend is really wanting to watch this, but given the reviews of the victim's makeup and prosthetics here, I'm not sure it'll be for her!
 
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Was this incident occurred during the height of the cold war ? Do you guys think that after the incident and the whole world knows about it with the fact that these radiation leaks caused the land around it to be inhabiable for more than 20,000 years help to reduce the tension of a nuclear war between the USSR and the United States at the time?
 

Bregor

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It occurred during the beginning of Gorbachev's rule, and helped him push through his policies of Glasnost and Perestroika.
 

SoH

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Was this incident occurred during the height of the cold war ? Do you guys think that after the incident and the whole world knows about it with the fact that these radiation leaks caused the land around it to be inhabiable for more than 20,000 years help to reduce the tension of a nuclear war between the USSR and the United States at the time?
The Cold War officially ended in 1991 with the fall of the Soviet Union when Ukraine voted for independence. I don't know my history well enough to confidently A to B to C, Chernobyl to the end of the Cold War but I think it is fair to argue Chernobyl was still incredibly fresh in the Ukrainian people's mind when they went to vote.
 

SoH

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I wasn't fully paying attention then; what was the twist?
They were members of the KGB keeping tabs on Legasov. Had he not lied about the situation to them when they asked at the bar things would have gone very differently for him.

To my knowledge this is likely a fictitious exchange but is representative of several scientists we are aware of needing to skirt the KGB and being put on trial.
 

BrassDragon

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I wasn't fully paying attention then; what was the twist?

They appeared to be random members of the public concerned about their safety ('anything we should be worried about?') and Legasov smiles and lies to them, making him complicit in the government cover-up. When we later learn they are actually KGB minders, this conversation can now be read as the state checking Legasov's commitment to the official lie and the party.
 

SoH

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Ahh, totally missed that! Thanks to all 3 of you!

Here are some screens from the scene.

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Nothus

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Not sure how accurate this is (I saw it on a ladbible instagram post!) but apparently Chernobyl is now the highest rated tv show of all time on imdb.
 

KINGofCRA5H

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I'm literally telling everyone I know about this show. When someone asks "what's good on HBO now (after GoT)", I'm just like CHERNOBYL CHERNOBYL CHERNOBYL CHERNOBYL CHERNOBYL
 

Noodle

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Some past dramatisations of what happened in the control room (fast-forward past the talking heads).


 

famikon

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interesting fact → https://www.theguardian.com/comment...ear-power-climate-change-health-radioactivity

In 1986, the Soviet minister of hydrometeorology, Yuri Izrael, had a regrettable decision to make. It was his job to track radioactivity blowing from the smoking Chernobyl reactor in the hours after the 26 April explosion and deal with it. Forty-eight hours after the accident, an assistant handed him a roughly drawn map. On it, an arrow shot north-east from the nuclear power plant, and broadened to become a river of air 10 miles wide that was surging across Belarus toward Russia.
In the sleepy towns of southern Belarus, villagers looked up to see planes with strange yellow and grey contrails snaking across the sky. Next day, 27 April, powerful winds kicked up, cumulus clouds billowed on the horizon, and rain poured down in a deluge. The raindrops scavenged radioactive dust floating 200 metres in the air and sent it to the ground. The pilots trailed the slow-moving gaseous bulk of nuclear waste north-east beyond Gomel, into Mogilev province. Wherever pilots shot silver iodide, rain fell, along with a toxic brew of a dozen radioactive elements.
If Operation Cyclone had not been top secret, the headline would have been spectacular: "Scientists using advanced technology save Russian cities from technological disaster!" Yet, as the old saying goes, what goes up must come down. No one told the Belarusians that the southern half of the republic had been sacrificed to protect Russian cities. In the path of the artificially induced rain lived several hundred thousand Belarusians ignorant of the contaminants around them.
 

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I've just got round to watching this. It is okay but I really do not like the direction.

The poor direction is affecting the acting too (which may also be a script problem).

But it is okay
 
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This is a tangent but this led me to finally watch The Terror, it's also got Jared Harris and the guy who plays the firefighter they focus on. Not at the same level as this, but it was pretty good I think.