Why? Netflix standard plan is literally only a dollar less than HBO Max.
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Fair enough that's a very long times so anything could happen, I think the more interesting thing for me personally will be if AT&T still owns Warner/HBO in 10 years.
My understanding of that graph is that it omitted most streaming services.
Disney do have a lot of sway with families, but I do wonder how much people are willing to pay. Evidently, the HBO brand is strong enough in the U.K. that Sky are desperate to keep it and would basically die out without it.
Haven't they been running $12 promos for the majority of HBO MAXs existence. I think the price point is a legitimate concern, although AT&T plans to alleviate that somewhat by offering an ad supported version of the service similar to what Hulu does with its two versions.
I wonder if they count someone like me who gets HBO Max for free just because I have AT&T Unlimited phone service.
Unless they're genuinely idiots, I can't see them making any contracts that would have been updated for digital rights last for too long and certainly not in perpetuity.
Yes, you are counted as a HBO Max (and thus HBO) subscriber.
I currently have Netflix, a Hulu free sub (8 months), Amazon Prime, Disney Plus and HBO Max. Amazon Prime I'll keep because of my Amazon purchases. I definitely won't keep Disney Plus or Hulu when those subscriptions expire. I use HBO the most.
Where are those people who shit on Max and its decision to primer new films day to day with the theaters?
Still inexcusable that all of their new shows aren't available in 4k and the app is terrible on every device I've used it on. Watching Wonder Woman 84 was not an enjoyable experience at 4k hdr. Constant buffering and refusal to go to 4k despite being available in 4k hdr.
It still kinda is, they're just misleading the numbers I guess.
I posted this earlier and ill break it down below.
They have 17.2m HBO Max Subscribers, 37.7m are eligible for HBO Max, they have 41.5m HBO/HBO Max US subscribers and it isn't listed here but they have 61m worldwide HBO subscribers.
Power of quality over quantity. I particularly love their classics.
Edit: Same day release is still dumb af and unsustainable move, hope directors don't fall for WB's shit.
Edit: Same day release is still dumb af and unsustainable move, hope directors don't fall for WB's shit.
Unfortunately for those who want day and date, I don't think that will be the case as they lost over half a Billion dollars just from this quarter due to theatres being closed and choosing to use the HBO Max model.
source: https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/n...r-update?utm_source=twitter&utm_medium=social
They sped up their sub goal by 2 years! That's a value of a movie viewed every month for millions of people, right?
We can wait and see but I will cheer and do everything I can to help to allow everyone to experience movies day one, and not just those with the ability to access a theater. VR is finally picking up some steam, there should be virtual day one options. It's a safe, fantastic way to experience movies. It feels social but has degrees of control for interruptions/noisy viewers.
Can't argue with your personal feelings, although much like some don't have access to a cinema others have bad internet, data caps and the cost associated with HBO Max that can prevent them from viewing the newest film so it goes both ways.
As for the economics it doesn't make sense to but out a $150-200m movie, every month or two, for a sub base of less than 20m especially when you have other programming costs for new series etc. Not even Netflix have put out a $200m on their service yet (they have 1 in the works) and they have over 200m subscribers.
Maybe the financial situation of these streamers will change eventually but right now if theatrical revenue does come back (or even a decent proportion of it) I imagine we will still see the biggest franchise films going to cinema first and exclusively. Smaller movies have and will continue to go the streamers and that makes perfect sense.
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No, it doesn't go both ways, I'm not asking for only streaming. Options are best. If the theaters survive and thrive while allowing first day options that's great.
People with bad internet can have the option to download, rent, purchase, cable options, go to a theater etc... I'm not asking for anything to arbitrarily get first dibs. Just options for as many people to see it as possible as soon as possible.
Theatres are unlikely to survive and thrive without exclusive films but anyway we should see how things go over the next couple of years and will be able to see how things are playing out by then.
edit: and to reiterate they have lost roughly half a billion dollars doing the day and date release so far. Most other studios have pushed back their major releases. Neither of those really provide confidence that data and date releases can make financial sense.
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And to reiterate they hit their sub goal 2 years early. So they are offsetting losses in one area with gains in another and you are saying that's a reason to double down on what lost them money.
They added almost 10 million 'activated subs' since September. So 10 million subs x 15 bucks a month times 12 months a year equals 1.8 bil a year increase in sub income added since september
Disney hit their original goals over 4 years early and Netflix had their best year ever yet you don't see them doing a similar blockbuster approach, it's almost like the pandemic accelerated sub growth. This is clearly a loss leader for Warner, once again the costs of the films are not their only programming costs they also have billions more that they spend on HBO and Max originals.
Also they need to keep those subs for a year for your projections to be correct, we will have to see if that happens and how many more subs they can gain.
Oh shit they have Ed Edd n Eddy on there?
I know some of the Cartoon Network and Adult Swim stuff is hit or miss if they have deals with other platforms. I'm waiting for Venture Bros to get out of Hulu jail to do a full series memorial marathon.
They're in the process of updating their back catalog (who knows how long that'll take) but all their day and date premiers are going to be in 4K. I'm assuming their new shows will be in quick order as well. It's a shame they've screwed the roll out so bad as it's one of the best around content wise
Yup, they added it this month with a few other cn shows. KND is there as well!
I am enjoying it quite a bit. Clicked on it randomly and now sit in anticipation of each new episode.
I'm so looking forward to it launching in the nordics. Have so many series I've hold off on for the past 8 years due to its abysmal streaming quality.
What quality are some of their older but still new stuff like Westworld S1 (which has a UHD Blu-ray transfer), 4KHDR or just 1080p? Ill take anything compared to the 480i that HBO offer now.
What quality are some of their older but still new stuff like Westworld S1 (which has a UHD Blu-ray transfer), 4KHDR or just 1080p? Ill take anything compared to the 480i that HBO offer now.
I feel like this is an announcement of an announcement: in the sense that, the headline in a few months will be "HBO MAX Not immune to the frequent churn of customers of streaming services."
EDIT: I need to sub at some point to catch up on Young Justice and maybe some Looney Tunes episdoes.
EDIT: I need to sub at some point to catch up on Young Justice and maybe some Looney Tunes episdoes.
