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HBO’s Game of Thrones prequel series and spinoffs: everything we know so far
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I mean, the whole prequel series will feature (as it seems) and explanation into who Sauron was, his downfall, and rise.
I don't think people are understanding my point in this thread.
LOTR was filmed before there was any plan for it to be spun off into a larger franchise. The story is complete because nothing was left hanging to keep the option open for spin offs or prequels, so the fact that prequels have been produced afterwards have no effect on the originals.
GOT has been produced with knowledge that it is a franchise, in a post-Marvel environment where studios all want the next big "universe".
Because of this, I can't trust that the unsatisfying conclusion and explanation of the Night King and White Walkers in general wasn't left deliberately vague for the express purpose of expanding it in future material.
It's conjecture, but more and more big budget productions have these cynical seeds planted in them which build anticipation for spin offs (some of which may never even see release) at the expense of narrative completion.
I mean, you don't need an explanation to all charachters and stories, Sauron, like NK, is powerful beings that have a shroud of mystery around them that don't need explaining, and as you say, prequel series to GoT have no affect on the completed main series).
And if they do explain, it doesn't take away from an already completed series (even if the plan was to 'Hey let's not delve deeper into NKs origin, we need that cash later on').
But Sauron is explained, in great detail. Sure, maybe not in LOTR itself (altough the book explains quite some things), but there is a lot of backstory available trough The Silmarillion. The NK (at this moment) is a creation of the series, so it will either be revisited in a different series; or this is just all we got and we'll just have to be happy with that. If that last part is reality, the series did a shit job.
That is true, but I am only talking about the movie and series here. But even then, if now Sauron is explained in different medias, why can't the NK be explained in a different series that can focus more on it?
it sure can. my point was that wat we got with Game of Thrones was extremely bare bones; while the NK was supposed to resemble the 'greatest threat Westeros ever faced'.
Why I agree the whole handling of NK and the WW was subpar, the backstory information wasn't imo (since it wasn't needed in the first place to delve deeper into it).
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I'm so hyped for this.
Give me some more GOT!
(I loved the last season, like many other fans, not everyone is a angry basement dweller)
Give me some more GOT!
Because people like fantasy stuff, and this is the most popular TV series ever made.
(I loved the last season, like many other fans, not everyone is a angry basement dweller)
Because the world as a whole is greate and intriguing.
And the show, even with the lackluster last season is still one of the greates shows produced.
I'm way more interested in Arya discovering new lands than looking at the past of Westeros. Even just Valyria would be more interesting that re-exploring Westeros. Spinoffs work best when they can develop their own lore, otherwise it will be basically a show about hinting and nodding at the events we already know.
thousands of years in the past means no, it won't be hinting at things we know. this isn't Better Call Saul. the show will be entirely contained stories that will have no relation to GOT other than maybe the WWs.
God I hope so. Would watch. I'm not sure I'd bother with prequels.
to be honest, I care little about the show's world given how the creators handled things. I just hope GRRM finishes the books :P
Because GOT was still an awesome show? And just because it ended poorly doesn't mean anything associated with it also will. I'm personally very excited for this.
I agree! Before this season I didn't really mind the books... but now with the last season I am more hyped for them.
Like the prospect of a talented person like Jane Goldman at the helm of a ASIOAF show should be exciting alone
Really curious to see what a D&D-free GOT looks like
Really curious to see what a D&D-free GOT looks like
A film about Robert's rebellion is certainly something I can see happening 5 years or so from now. I think that's the closest we would get about the GoT characters though, as it was mentioned that GRRM is not interested in stories that take place after the end of the series.
You want to see Arya discover fantasy America and ship the silver back to Western?
The Night King was originally a man, formed into the first White Walker by the Children of the Forest, using their magic enchanted dragon glass, as a weapon to fight against the First Men who'd invaded Westeros, were taking their lands, and destroying the Weirwoods. He turned on the Children of the Forest while continuing to fight the First Men, ushering in the first Long Night with the objective of erasing the world of the living and enforcing an eternal winter. They were defeated and pushed North, and the wall was built to keep them out. Their legacy slipped into history and then myth and they've returned in the events of Game of Thrones to complete what they started.
I understand not being satisfied with the resolution or explanation for the White Walkers, Night King, and their whims and desires. I understanding feeling seasons worth of teased exposition that emphasised some greater mystery may not have been appropriately fulfilled. And I get the disappointment in having the arc concluded in a singular south-of-the-wall battle.
But I see this "The Night King was never explained" commentary a lot, and in reality the show very clearly explained and showed his origin, and discussed and implied his purpose and objectives. There was nothing else to him or his desires beyond what we already know, which is sufficient enough. We know who the Night King is. We know who created him, and how. We know what he is trying to accomplish. The show explains this.
I have zero interest in Children of the Forest and early history of Westeros. Literally zero.
I'd much prefer the Valyria series first. It'll have a lot more character to it and vibrancy and is a chance to redeem the political nuance of GoT before it fell off a cliff.
Give me Sothoyros even. A Robert's Rebellion mini-series could work.
Children of the Forest? Keep it.
I'd much prefer the Valyria series first. It'll have a lot more character to it and vibrancy and is a chance to redeem the political nuance of GoT before it fell off a cliff.
Give me Sothoyros even. A Robert's Rebellion mini-series could work.
Children of the Forest? Keep it.
if they went to east, south, central or southeast asian inspired areas the show would somehow become even more racist
also dragons are cooler than zombies
im still interested despite how shitty the finale is though lmao
also dragons are cooler than zombies
im still interested despite how shitty the finale is though lmao
Gods, there's still people that pretend only "aNgRy NeRDZZ" dislike the final season?
I've been reading how it be explaining the origin of the Night King, so I'm sure other hints will happen. It's okay, I'll definitely watch it and there is potential. I'm just a little soured after this ending.
It's almost like people can't read. The show will explore the east too, not just Westeros.
Hahaha. Man the writers they got lined up for these projects are fucking abysmal.
They're giving the freaking writer of Kong Skull Island a shot at one of these GOT shows too....
I cant wait the end of the Targaryen line on A Dream of Spring and melting the Iron throne.
Because if you think thematically it will be diffreent, you will be dissapointed again...
She has fixed a ton of Mark Millar bullshit and made it work.
there are people that the consider Dany not ending on the Iron Throne is a thing that needs "fixing" for example.
Or Grrm, a Tolkien fan, wont destroy the Iron Throne and Jon will sit on it.
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For me, its not really about the destination but the journey; and I think most will agree that the writers of the show rushed things immensely. I'm pretty certain that none of the main characters will "get what they want", I'm totally fine with that. It's pretty much what the series is known for.
She has fixed a ton of Mark Millar bullshit and made it work.
The one thing this doesn't consider is whether or not Masie Williams would even want to do a spin-off. I feel like her and the rest of the cast would probably want to take a break and do other projects for the foreseeable future. It's like going up to the Harry Potter kids right after Deathly Hallows Part 2 released and asking them if they'd be interested in signing on to be in 3-5 more Harry Potter films after devoting 10 years of their lives to it.
I'd honestly be interested in an Arya spin-off in, like, 10-15 years from now when Williams is in her 30s and Arya has become this grizzled, world-traveling badass.
I agree with these, i just see a lot of people that were following HBO marketing of "who will win the game of thrones!!" and wanting their character to "win" to be very disappointed. For me it was the whole story not having your character "win".
Ok, i've read through Jane's work, i think Kingman 2 was a one-off, as she's responsible for some of my favourite comic book movies on screen. Can't wait.
What people really mean is, the explanation was boring and made for a terrible antagonist who did nothing.
A dragon can change his mind, don't limit his options like that
They explained basically everything there was to know about the Night King.
Why was he created? To kill humanity.
What were his goals? To kill humanity.
What was his motivation? Magic, which made him want to kill humanity.
What was his character arc? To try to kill humanity.
Do expect them to capitalize on people wanting to know more, though.
I imagine they haven't been developing any sequel series yet because they didn't want leaks. But they'd be dumb not to think about it. If they could get GRRM involved at the level he was in season 1-4 it might be worth getting hyped about.
In the other hand I really don't understand the trend to create prequels. They are very unexciting for the audience. The vast majority of prequels suck because the story that people are invested in is after the original show/movie/game, not before it.
In the other hand I really don't understand the trend to create prequels. They are very unexciting for the audience. The vast majority of prequels suck because the story that people are invested in is after the original show/movie/game, not before it.
I'm not sure Maisie Williams has a whole lot else coming up, acting-wise. She doesn't seem to have made the best film choices to date, either.
So you chose to call me illiterate?
The only mention of "mysteries of the east" is that one line buried. The show is being sold on being a far-history of Westeros and the story of the Children of the Forest, Bran the Builder Etc.
Now read what I said. I'll even repeat it here for you, I'd much rather the story of Valyria; it'd have more vibrancy and bring back the political intrigue.
Alternatively a show set in Sothoyros, a largely unexplored region akin to Africa. Or a Robert's Rebellion mini-series.
If you personally would rather have this particular show? That's fine. Great, they're filming the pilot and it's the most likely spin-off to happen. But other people want different things, shocking huh?
Midnight's Edge claims that the other two remaining spin-offs have been put on hold in light of the finale but time has proven him to be full of BS (it seems like every year he predicts the cancellation of Star Trek Discovery and its spinoffs).