I could agree with that. Like I'm happy games are much better looking, but now I find myself wondering more often about framerate, or draw distance, amount of enemies or whatever, better AI, load times... that sort of stuff. I'm so looking forward to both consoles specifically because of decreased/eliminated load times. It's gonna be so nice not having to wait sometimes several minutes to load into zones in Destiny 2 and other games with notoriously bad load times.
People are largely looking to win arguments and feed their egos on the internet, not use this resource to better inform their outlooks. So of course you get all the absurdity we have seen. A ton of people invested in this narrative of absurdist diminishing returns to the point of arguing Horizon 2 is indistinguishable from Horizon 1 using a misleading photo mode screenshot, and they are going to see it through, reality be damned.
"meh, diminishing returns. looks the same as PS4 games"
XBox X
RTX
"OMG insane generational improvement. THIS is next gen!"
Pre-rendered? When's the last time Guerilla did pre-rendered anything? PS3? Why would they go back to it now?
i dont think so.
real-time ? never seen someone playing a game like that before, how is that even possible to play scenes like that? it's pre-rendered content and its not the same as in-game gameplay. I've shared photos from gameplay vs pre-rendered. it's pretty clear that there is a hugh difference.
Real-time means it's being rendered in-engine with game assets, running off the local hardware. Which Horizon was.
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No, not 1:1, it will be pretty, but all marketing screenshots are bullshots.
is this what we will play ingame?
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Just to give you a summary to save us time:
it has already have been said in January by a game studio that develops for playstation
PS5 and Xbox Series X Will Hit a Graphics Dead-End
The PS5 and Xbox Series X may not have the big leap in graphical fidelity that we're used to with previous console generations.
The PS5 and Xbox Series X may not have the big leap in graphical fidelity that we're used to with previous console generations.
About what i mean about ingame gameplay and pre-rendered
- The PS5 and Xbox Series X will be with us by the end of the year.
- While previous generations have meant an increase in graphical fidelity, gamers have been warned not to expect that this time.
- Graphics shouldn't be as important as visual design and mechanical improvements.
Not gameplay:
Gameplay:
Also keep in mind that many games are downgraded afterwards after it was shown at e3.
I also mentioned this prev gen, I'm happy there are more people that see it happening and accept it.
It's a problem but I think they can fix it. The solution is already mentioned by Microsoft.
Think about phones and ipad. Some games will work on older ipads, other games only on the latest ipad.
Instead of releasing a ps5, you can release each year a slightly upgraded version, something like ps4 pro. It will also fix the +/- 7y waiting line.
Why would we need to wait on a console for 7 years, that maybe is already outdated again after a few years? Phones like iphone and samsung are even more expensive. You can choose when to update it. It's the perfect solution. You can even keep it cheap by working with modules. Like n64 memory pack, so you can keep the ssd and controllers. There is just so many better solution and it is the perfect time now to do it.
Just to give you a summary to save us time:
it has already have been said in January by a game studio that develops for playstation
PS5 and Xbox Series X Will Hit a Graphics Dead-End
The PS5 and Xbox Series X may not have the big leap in graphical fidelity that we're used to with previous console generations.
The PS5 and Xbox Series X may not have the big leap in graphical fidelity that we're used to with previous console generations.
About what i mean about ingame gameplay and pre-rendered
- The PS5 and Xbox Series X will be with us by the end of the year.
- While previous generations have meant an increase in graphical fidelity, gamers have been warned not to expect that this time.
- Graphics shouldn't be as important as visual design and mechanical improvements.
Not gameplay:
Gameplay:
Also keep in mind that many games are downgraded afterwards after it was shown at e3.
I also mentioned this prev gen, I'm happy there are more people that see it happening and accept it.
It's a problem but I think they can fix it. The solution is already mentioned by Microsoft.
Think about phones and ipad. Some games will work on older ipads, other games only on the latest ipad.
Instead of releasing a ps5, you can release each year a slightly upgraded version, something like ps4 pro. It will also fix the +/- 7y waiting line.
Why would we need to wait on a console for 7 years, that maybe is already outdated again after a few years? Phones like iphone and samsung are even more expensive. You can choose when to update it. It's the perfect solution. You can even keep it cheap by working with modules. Like n64 memory pack, so you can keep the ssd and controllers. There is just so many better solution and it is the perfect time now to do it.
Wow then I also don't see the sytemseller for PS5 right now and Horizon is more likely not a launch title.
yes that is what I believe is ingame gameplay
is this what we will play ingame?
It's going to be a little bit until developers think of ways to take full advantage of something like the crazy fast SSD + I/O. Going to involve a lot of "new ways of thinking" and changes in game design philosophies. I'm not surprised it's gimmicky stuff right now like what we see in Ratchet & Clank.
My god who believes this is ingame gameplay?! No it's a ingame cutscene but the gameplay character model will be not on the same graphical level.
But this is NOT what "diminishing returns" means.
Hitman 3 looks the same as 2 (as expected since the whole trilogy is esentially a single project building upon the same shared platform), and Ratchet is a great example of diminishing returns (which again, doesn't mean a lack of progress OBVIOUSLY).
