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Vonocourt

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,626
Gotta admit, ironic transphobia and him getting in his feelings about preemptively trying to explain it should be expected.

Like maybe acknowledge that that era of jokes has passed, a lot of us have, why can't you.
 

chaobreaker

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,545
$200K car
1x
 

katsu044

Member
Mar 1, 2021
4,458
canada
watching bits of the car buying stream because i was wondering why last night it was taking so many hours to buy it

dying at trying to bring that greasy ass bag of chips in
 

Lump

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 25, 2017
16,034
I remember it took like 5-6 hours to get a new Honda Civic for whatever reason back in 2018. It be like that when pulling in different credit unions and banks for the best financing option, and that was when my credit score was around 750. It's about 815 now so maybe my options will be better when I trade it in for an EV this year.
 

Apathy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
11,992
Hasan really made me shake my head a couple of days ago when he had Stavros on and they were dismissing the racism allegations from last year for Shane Gillis.
 

Deleted member 34725

User-requested account closure
Banned
Nov 28, 2017
1,058
is he still 100% certain an invasion is not happening? i was on the fence too but to commit to something so fiercely when it still seems so possible is.. lol
He has pretty standard leftist takes on the issue. Though I do understand it seeming weird to many as it's very at odds with the standard western liberal media narrative.

He agrees with people like Chomsky, has a healthy distrust of western media/state propaganda, and views NATO as force that is pro western imperialism.

You know... the kind of takes that would get you banned in the Ukraine thread.
 

ElBoxy

Member
Oct 25, 2017
14,135
He has pretty standard leftist takes on the issue. Though I do understand it seeming weird to many as it's very at odds with the standard western liberal media narrative.

He agrees with people like Chomsky, has a healthy distrust of western media/state propaganda, and views NATO as force that is pro western imperialism.

You know... the kind of takes that would get you banned in the Ukraine thread.
I'm surprised that other people are surprised. Hasan has never believed that America, in it's current form, is capable of doing any good for anyone.
 
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strudelkuchen

Member
Oct 25, 2017
10,083
He has pretty standard leftist takes on the issue. Though I do understand it seeming weird to many as it's very at odds with the standard western liberal media narrative.

He agrees with people like Chomsky, has a healthy distrust of western media/state propaganda, and views NATO as force that is pro western imperialism.

You know... the kind of takes that would get you banned in the Ukraine thread.
Which makes discussing politics pointless here.
 
Oct 25, 2017
7,298
new jersey
He has pretty standard leftist takes on the issue. Though I do understand it seeming weird to many as it's very at odds with the standard western liberal media narrative.

He agrees with people like Chomsky, has a healthy distrust of western media/state propaganda, and views NATO as force that is pro western imperialism.

You know... the kind of takes that would get you banned in the Ukraine thread.
I've gotten a two week ban from that Ukraine thread for my (self-admitted poorly worded) takes in there. If you don't want to hug and kiss NATO in those threads, you are not welcome. And yes, I do agree with Hasan's takes on this situation. I trust his word way more than news media who repeat State Department talking points. Even some leftist youtubers are disappointing.
 

poklane

Member
Oct 25, 2017
27,932
the Netherlands
User Banned (2 weeks): thread derail - we aren't doing this "why won't mods ban x" stuff anymore
Honestly don't get how someone with views like this is allowed to have a thread dedicated to him on this website and would love to hear an explanation from the mods



He's gone of the deep end and is openly voicing his supporting for Russia invading Ukraine. You could use the exact same arguments to justify Nazi Germany's annexations of Austria, Czechoslovakia's Sudetenland, Lithuania's Klaipėda Region and the invasion of Poland.
 
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Lidl

Member
Dec 12, 2017
2,568
He not only cut off Crimea from Ukraine in his recent tweet, but basically all of so called Novorossiya - in light of the current events in Ukraine...
What and utterly disgusting human being.



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gig

Prophet of Regret
Member
Oct 25, 2017
3,276
He's been admitting he was wrong for the past hour or so, though hesitantly. Been weird watching him try to cover his own ass. Doubled down on his Crimea take though
 

Kinsei

Avenger
Oct 25, 2017
20,544
Suggesting he's been paid off is a straight up conspiracy theory.
Russia runnign their influence on the left does not mean people are being bought. It means people like Hasan are stupid and buying into the propaganda hook line and sinker because it confirms to their bias of America always being the enemy (Which granted, it almost always is).
 

chaobreaker

One Winged Slayer
Member
Oct 27, 2017
5,545
I mean he's still right that Russia isn't going all Hearts of Iron 4 and invading Kiev. This is basically 2014 all over again.
 

Deleted member 4461

User Requested Account Deletion
Banned
Oct 25, 2017
8,010
Apologized, said the situation has changed and is waiting on new information while watching new John Oliver CRT video.

Debate lords are more obsessed about him being wrong than the actual geopolitical situation.

In the defense of debate lords, this is how he's treated it as well. You can't yell about how wrong people are every stream and call them stupid for believing a thing that may still happen. Or make content mocking people for being wrong about the situation.

The whole framing of it was bad. The debate lords are also wrong, by the way! They should be much more mature here, but in the end, #bothsides.
 

Booshka

Banned
May 8, 2018
3,957
Colton, CA
In the defense of debate lords, this is how he's treated it as well. You can't yell about how wrong people are every stream and call them stupid for believing a thing that may still happen. Or make content mocking people for being wrong about the situation.

The whole framing of it was bad. The debate lords are also wrong, by the way! They should be much more mature here, but in the end, #bothsides.
ya got lost in the sauce, should have kept it as a critique of state department propaganda from the West and from Russia, as well as the media that laps it up and regurgitates it. As well as yet another reason to not have your consent manufactured, and to be more critical and skeptical in general. Once you start raging at chat and the twitter and streamer sphere of bad faith debate lords then it is bound to bite you in the ass.
 

PunchyMalone

Member
May 1, 2018
2,249
ya got lost in the sauce, should have kept it as a critique of state department propaganda from the West and from Russia, as well as the media that laps it up and regurgitates it. As well as yet another reason to not have your consent manufactured, and to be more critical and skeptical in general. Once you start raging at chat and the twitter and streamer sphere of bad faith debate lords then it is bound to bite you in the ass.

That was how it started but chat kept going nuts on him. After arguing about it for days, and the timeline kept getting pushed back, he tripled down on his take and chat got even more aggro. Dude needs to try and stop hyper fixating on arguments in the chat or it's going to eat him alive.
 

Steiner_Zi

Member
Oct 28, 2017
1,345
I used to put him on in the background while checking on my phone if i had nothing better to do, but I bounced off hard. His whole attitude and over-the-top lifestyle that screams "give me money you suckerz" made me stop streaming and unfollowed him on IG.