Rogue still wears gloves even though she has full control over her powers. People do things that make them comfortable.
And as a "just in case" thing, rocking the glasses (or gloves in Rogue's case) doesn't hurt.
That whole run was fucking awesome.
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Has Cyclops always....been like that, when it comes to Jean Grey? (and in general)
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And as a "just in case" thing, rocking the glasses (or gloves in Rogue's case) doesn't hurt.
That whole run was fucking awesome.
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I have but my perceptions about him have been colored by all the other noise that seemed follow him. I have not read Astonishing X-Men yet.
Started reading X-men back when Scott was leading X-Factor and I've always enjoyed him well enough.
Never liked wolverine. I started with the early 90s action cartoon, like many, and it was Wolverine who seemed like the jealous sobbing loner wannabe who couldn't take it that Jean was with Cyclops. Didn't like how they obviously gave Wolverine so much attention over the years either. I just don't see the appeal. Gambit and Cyclops were way better to me. It's like Scorpion in Mortal Kombat. He is the creator's favorite character, so he throws him in our face in every story. He is ALWAYS on the cover now too. Put up a poll on these sites though, and he usually loses in popularity to Sub-Zero, who is way better too.
He wants to laser her alright. Also Logan.
Scott Summers is og. Leave him alone.
Hell, even longer than that. she was dead for almost 7 years the first time, and 14 years between 2004 and 2018. In the 56 years since her debut in 1963, she's been dead 21 years and alive 35!
Astonishing was ages ago by now as well.
His character development has been pretty insane since.
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Cyclops have also become a really interesting character over the years -- somewhat because of his relationship with Emma -- even though there so many writers trying to make him a "villain" and/or turn him back to the more simple Boys scout persona.
He do seem to be in capable hands with Hickman now to be fair.
and goddamn am I glad he's rivalry to Wolverine have taken a giant fuckin backseat and they instead can just hang out like friends(or maybe something even more).
Cyclops was right. So right they had to kill him off due to how right he was.
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lol, it still gets me.Cyclops was right. So right they had to kill him off due to how right he was.
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The thing I've always loved about Scott as leader is that he had those damn X-men trained TIGHT. I don't care what comic team you bring to the fight (maybe Blood Syndicate), but when it's time to throw down , the X-men came to rumble. There were no team fights in comics that were more exciting. Scott had the team ready to fight solo, pair up, switch partners, utilize maneuvers...the X-Men were no joke. Cap is a great field commander, but Cyclops can't be touched.
Scott could make Angel useful. Not Archangel. Regular ass Angel.
He can't hurt Havok or his other brothers, Vulcan and Adam X the X-Treme, either.
In Age of Apocalypse Cyclops and Havok have a climactic duel to the death and Havok seemingly kills him, and then ten years later they wrote a comic in the same universe saying that Cyclops was alive off-screen because the writers forgot Havok's powers couldn't kill him.
It's probably because he's a fake Summers brother.
He's just stealing the thunder from Adam X the X-Treme.
That was Grant Morrison's New X-Men that had Magneto manipulating people using Cassandra Nova's nanosentinels. Like Xavier could walk because Magneto allowed him to.
The Phoenix 5 thing was basically Magneto, Emma Frost, and Cyclops' powers got messed up after the Phoenix possession. Despite Magneto not having been possessed by the Phoenix. Illyana actually got a power boost, but it turned out that what she was doing was neglecting the fact that she was basically powering herself using Limbo as a power source and wrecking the shit out of it as a result. I think Namor and Colossus' powers were fine. That storyline just kind of ends. Their powers end up restoring themselves. Emma's telepathy is broken, but her diamond skin is fine. Magneto's powers are severely reduced in strength, and Cyclops can't control his beams properly.
Singlehandedly my favorite meme.Cyclops was right. So right they had to kill him off due to how right he was.
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How can you fuck up Namor and Colossus' powers? not being that hard anymore
Colossus for a while couldn't turn off his powers because of all kinds of micro-cuts in his steel form that would have killed him if they turned back into flesh, so there's a way.
Cyclops was right. So right they had to kill him off due to how right he was.
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This one will never get old
Remember when they discovered Colossus isn't solid when he is metal form? Instead he has some sort of energy animating a metal shell
How does that work? And does he do something as cool as Water Wizard?
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What can I say, I'm old and took a 20+ year break with comics. I only came back with Civil War in like 2008.
Aight.
lolwut.
Colossus doesn't really have powers to mess up, unless he's literally softened since his skin, bones, and muscles are all super metal.
Ultimate Falcon did realize that he doesn't turn his eyes metal and poked him real hard in the eyes.
Ultimate Colossus also had to take super steroids to get strong because turning into metal made him too heavy to move and useless, so he doesn't count.
How does that work? And does he do something as cool as Water Wizard?
They never explained how. Cap just found hydro man imprisoned in Atlantis during Invaders, and it was a connect-the-dots that this is where Namor's water control powers came from.
Makes sense. You're not alone, but that early Fox media did him a disservice. A big part was that Jackman's Wolverine took the title spot of the Fox movies. Wolverine in the comics is a joke in comparison. At least in terms of a compelling character.
I'd say that it's reversed, Jackman Wolverine is the weaker of the two.
But I liked it at the time, lol. Well, not the Colossus shit, that was dumb.
It was so evil and mean spirited. Remember their "Defenders"?
I wouldn't go that far. Wolverine had a VERY long run as marvels most popular (and most overexposed) character. For a while he was in everything under the sun, and it's not because he sucked.
Cyclops never caught on that way, but neither did ANY of the Xmen.
How compelling he was largely depended on the arc and storyline- and there were some pretty good ones. I still have a soft spot for the original "Weapon X" arc that showed up in Marvel Comics Presents.
Re: the Fox Xmen movies you're largely correct there. X1 and X2 were basically Wolverine movies with everyone else as supporting cast. Backstage drama that led to Singer leaving for X3 and *taking James Marsden with him* for Superman Returns causing cyclops to be killed offscreen did not help things.
All you really need to know about Ultimate Marvel nowadays is that Ultimate Captain America's "Do you think this letter on my head stands for France?!" was, back then, incredibly hilarious and charming and proof of how badass this new Cap really was compared to the old one.
Al Ewing later wrote a scene where Ultimate Cap crosses paths with the 616 Ultimates lead by Blue Marvel, tries saying the line, and gets his ass kicked by a dimension hopping Latina lesbian.
Al Ewing later wrote a scene where Ultimate Cap crosses paths with the 616 Ultimates lead by Blue Marvel, tries saying the line, and gets his ass kicked by a dimension hopping Latina lesbian.
Haha yeah. Had it's bright spots tho, and it was clearly influential on the mcu.
Only in regards to modernized character designs and some of the world lore. Other than window dressing, the MCU is largely based on the main universe.
Ah, yeah. That 616 ultimates book is a wild ride. Blue Marvel just demolishing ultimate hulk in a single hit tells you everything you need to know about what Ewing thought of that continuity
Beat me to it. The MCU is heavily drawing from 616 characters and storylines. There's very little of the ultimate universe in it.
The setting of a Cape Punk Superhero Arms Race kind of world where superhero conflict is a huge deal that causes massive property damage, definitely. Otherwise, not much.
I wasn't really into reading those books if I could help it. I vaguely recall the Ultimate Defenders not actually having powers or something
I sometimes feel like the writers of the Ultimate Universe actually hated the actual Marvel Universe.
Edit:Ooosps where the hell did this quote come from? Sorry!
Of course they're mostly drawing from 616, now more than ever, but the Ultimate universe definitely inspired some parts of the early mcu. Tony isn't s blue baby and Steve isn't a douchebag but still. Small stuff. Some of the costumes, the original avengers lineup, chitauri, shields role in it etc. Not the biggest things but still influences from the ultimate universe.