This thread shows you who's read X-Men comics in the last twenty years and who hasn't.
I maintain that Logan was a total idiot when he split the X-Men off in Wolverine and the X-Men the comic, meanwhile Scott turned into the dude who tells Captain America to fuck off for never being there to help mutants when they need help, but always there to lecture them when they have to do it on their own.
Too many people just saw the cartoons and movies and never saw how good he's been in the comics many times.The disrespect Scott gets is the worst. My man is saves mutantdom all the time yet gets no respect
I just the movies to stop having his powers burn or melt things. He isn't shooting a laser.
Absolutely, it became easier to cast Cyke as the unlikable bad guy once editorial interference basically cemented him as that. But the fact of the matter remains that Logan has done morally worse than Scott has ever done by order of magnitude, but Logan gets away with it because he's the one-liner generating pop-culture cash-cow, while Scott is the reserved child-soldier who works behind the scenes making sure that his father figures ambition is realized.Yeah, Cyclops got done dirty by so many writers. And it became a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy too: once it was established that he was a dick, it was easy for that characterisation to continue indefinitely.
And 100% agree on the contrast between Cyclops getting screwed by writers and Wolverine getting all the page time and fanservice despite being an objectively worse person in pretty much every single way. But Wolverine is popular with edgelords so he gets away with it.
Waves of physical force that just happen to glow. Anything that he "burns" is really just getting pulverized until friction come into play.
No one looks good post-schism, so get the fuck out of here with that.
Her design has devolved 1983
The disrespect Scott gets is the worst. My man is saves mutantdom all the time yet gets no respect
i can't wait for MCU to show all you dummies why Scott is the GOAT
Yeah, Cyclops got done dirty by so many writers. And it became a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy too: once it was established that he was a dick, it was easy for that characterisation to continue indefinitely.
And 100% agree on the contrast between Cyclops getting screwed by writers and Wolverine getting all the page time and fanservice despite being an objectively worse person in pretty much every single way. But Wolverine is popular with edgelords so he gets away with it.
I would like to not think of Scott the way I do but it is also not my fault. There have been opportunities for him to be more than what he has been shown to be as a casual fan and they have failed. I trust that KF will fix this when the time comes.
My favorite Cyclop fact is that he considers fighting dinosaurs by himself a vacationHonestly I'd say Wolverine gets hoed more than Summers. People just don't realize it because it involves his ability to heal through anything so it comes off as a cool but Wolverine gets his ass beat by people who really shouldn't be able to constantly lol
Honestly why does he still need a visor. The point of Xavier's school is to teach mutants how to control their powers and Scott has been there since the beginning. You'd think he would have learnt by now.
He doesn't, not entirely. He's been without his visor plenty of times, but the visor allows for more granularity of his powers otherwise.Honestly why does he still need a visor. The point of Xavier's school is to teach mutants how to control their powers and Scott has been there since the beginning. You'd think he would have learnt by now.
I absolutely love that moment.My favorite Cyclop fact is that he considers fighting dinosaurs by himself a vacation
I just the movies to stop having his powers burn or melt things. He isn't shooting a laser.
My favorite Cyclop fact is that he considers fighting dinosaurs by himself a vacation
Also a real moment that showed by emma loved him
First that is some nerd shit, and yes Cyke is that niggaTechnically, he can burn things. Because he's exerting enough force to excite the molecules, it's just most things wouldn't get to that point because they'd be torn from the force. But something like a dense metal could melt which is what happened with that sentinel in the panel posted. But yea I get what you're saying and I agree!
Doing what real leaders do, casual flexes.
He walked out on his wife and newborn baby when Jean Grey first came back to life.
So yes, he has always been like that.
(This moment ruined Cyclops as a character.)
There's a reason Cyclops is in charge of the army of all mutantkind.
One of my favorite Scott moments. I hear the chorus of "Where Ya At" by Future every time I read that convoThis thread shows you who's read X-Men comics in the last twenty years and who hasn't.
I maintain that Logan was a total idiot when he split the X-Men off in Wolverine and the X-Men the comic, meanwhile Scott turned into the dude who tells Captain America to fuck off for never being there to help mutants when they need help, but always there to lecture them when they have to do it on their own.
Correct. You can't change history.Yeah, Cyclops got done dirty by so many writers. And it became a bit of a self-fulfilling prophecy too: once it was established that he was a dick, it was easy for that characterisation to continue indefinitely.
Is that just who he is? I haven't read every xmen comic or even what would consider a lot but every comic, movie and cartoon seems to make him.... Did I miss a badass run of of him not being sulky and brooding or extra boy scout-ish? I might not be portraying him right but he always seems whinny and insecure and in every adaptation. I just started Wolverine and The X-men ,since I'm done with the 90's Fox show and I don't know where this takes place but there is Scott Summers, sad and sulking again.
This, basically.Too many people just saw the cartoons and movies and never saw how good he's been in the comics many times.
My childhood has been a lie.Its concussive energy, not like a heat ray or laser beam. It actually doesnt produce any heat
He isnt actually shooting anything out of his eyes. They open portals to a dimension that is full of this energy and it just explodes out uncontrollably.
Is that just who he is? I haven't read every xmen comic or even what would consider a lot but every comic, movie and cartoon seems to make him.... Did I miss a badass run of of him not being sulky and brooding or extra boy scout-ish? I might not be portraying him right but he always seems whinny and insecure and in every adaptation. I just started Wolverine and The X-men ,since I'm done with the 90's Fox show and I don't know where this takes place but there is Scott Summers, sad and sulking again.
Yep Scott doesnt need to be infallible but every form of media hes been featured in (except the games I guess) have kinda poisoned the well for the character over the decades. Most casual fans dont know enough about Cyclops to get the proper understanding of the character. Most hardcore fans have read too many shit stories that do a bad job with him and paint him as too much of an asshole, who goes too far and still fails too often.
He's one of those characters like Tony Stark and Carol Danvers that will be serviced incredibly by an MCU-reboot if they do it right
Too many people just saw the cartoons and movies and never saw how good he's been in the comics many times.
This bugs me too.I just the movies to stop having his powers burn or melt things. He isn't shooting a laser.
This move is an anti air nightmare, heh.Smithers, I'm beginning to think that Scott Summers is not the brilliant tactician I thought he was.
Damn if that wasn't the best description of Cyclops I've ever read. Shitty husband and father, but he's absolutely what you described - at least up until I stopped reading X-Men in 1993.Yup. Cyclops is annoying, a total boy scout, often a hypocrite, but he does have positive qualities as well. He's willing to shoulder an enormous burden and while it wears on him, he rarely blames anyone but himself for his failures. If anything he takes too much responsibility, further wearing on him. He's decisive in moments where many would waiver and he almost always puts the needs of others before his own (with a few pretty notable exceptions admittedly). He's smart in a fight and understands intuitively how to use the people around him together to create the best possible outcome, but will almost never ask someone to do something he wouldn't be willing to and is always looking to get everyone home safe. He's not usually a great guy, and he's definitely not someone most people would want to hang out with on the regular, but he's usually a very good leader.
The visor helps him adjust the beam so he doesn't blow everything away when he opens his eyes. He could probably do the same thing to a lesser degree by partially opening his eyes or something. The visor gives him that extra finesse and lets him flex those awesome geometry skills.So Cyclops is kinda like Bishop with energy absorption. Can he not use his visor or glasses and open his eyes without blowing up a city block?
Cyclops is more like Superman, except that it doesn't turn into a billion other powers. Bishop is different since he could punch a wall and absorb the kinetic energy from that, ambient light from a lightbulb, an electrical wire, and then use that power to amp himself and shoot energy blasts just as long as it doesn't overload him.So Cyclops is kinda like Bishop with energy absorption. Can he not use his visor or glasses and open his eyes without blowing up a city block?