I would argue it's people unknowingly showing how "forgiving" they are towards issues they know are wrong but for people they don't want to shit on.
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Harvard rescinds admission to Parkland survivor Kyle Kashuv over past racist comments
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I would argue it's people unknowingly showing how "forgiving" they are towards issues they know are wrong but for people they don't want to shit on.
Pepile acting like this is just a part of growing up need to have a good hard look at themselves. Did I say and do some dumb shit growing up? Sure. Did I saw all Jews should be fucking killed and throw around the N word like it was going out of fashion? Of course not and neither did any other remotely sane person.
Also this isn't some young kid, he was 16 which is basically a young adult. That's essentially when you're working your way towards uni/college so what the hell else should we judge him on?
Also whilst people do tend to mature as they grow up they rarely go from being ignorant, hurtful racist fucks to being decent people. The comments he was making were from a person way too far down the rabbit hole.
Also this isn't some young kid, he was 16 which is basically a young adult. That's essentially when you're working your way towards uni/college so what the hell else should we judge him on?
Also whilst people do tend to mature as they grow up they rarely go from being ignorant, hurtful racist fucks to being decent people. The comments he was making were from a person way too far down the rabbit hole.
If he can't see the false equivalency in that, Harvard fucked up in accepting him in the first place.
Probably won't do much career wise. He'll just start a YouTube channel rake in hundreds of thousands a year in Koch money
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People have this idea in their heads that someone can't be a victim of a tragedy and be an undeserving asshole at the same time. Victimhood isn't a moral binary.
The kind of sad thing is this weird conservative view that, "hey, all kids these days use slurs on the Internet these days, right" excuse. I'm going to guess just like a a majority of kids didn't actually use slurs in their AIM messages when I was a teen in the 90's, the vast majority of kids today don't use slurs on Snapchat or whatever.
Just saw an interview with him on Fox News (I know, I know...), and the host certainly didn't let him off the hook, following up time and again on what compels someone to type the n-word 11 times in a row, calling him on the phrasing of 'practice makes perfect', and his anti-semitic comments. When Kyle brought up Harvard being founded by slaveholders in the 1600's, the host shot right back that his (Kyle's) comments were quite a bit more recent than that and aren't a fair comparison. If Kashuv was looking for a sympathetic hearing, he certainly didn't get it (rightly, I might add).
Lmao if he's really making those arguments then he hasn't learned or changed at all
It's almost like all conservatives are racist... It's almost like the same people who are defending this dick for saying "kill all the jews" are the same people who thought Omar should lose her position in congress for saying "It's all about the benjamins".
If the fact that the survivor of a mass shooting becomes a pro-gun activist isn't a sign that gun rights aren't going away anytime soon, I don't know what is.
I don't walk around using the C-word just to be provocative. And no one had to sit me down and explain why I shouldn't. Most importantly, I DON'T WANT TO. I have no appetite for it, completely independent of that fact that other people would find it offensive.
Human decency is a thing. There's only one type of person questioning that right now and we should treat them all like the disingenuous hacks that they are.
Human decency is a thing. There's only one type of person questioning that right now and we should treat them all like the disingenuous hacks that they are.
I'd be willing to forgive him if he actually admitted he was being a shithead at the time, he sort of does it but not really. I say this as someone who's probably said much worse online when I was 16, too.
Blaming your age isn't a valid excuse, just acknowledge you were an ass.
Blaming your age isn't a valid excuse, just acknowledge you were an ass.
If he was really sorry he'd just own up to it and accept the consequences (which are pretty damn minor in the big picture).
Seems like he doesn't really get it. And trying to use the shooting as an excuse...I mean it doesn't feel like my place to say anything to the kid about that but honestly it feels pretty damn gross.
Seems like he doesn't really get it. And trying to use the shooting as an excuse...I mean it doesn't feel like my place to say anything to the kid about that but honestly it feels pretty damn gross.
Exactly. It's the problem with these defenses. They're always like "I was young! We all do/say shitty things when we're young" and yes, to an extent, but not like that. That's you being young AND a shithead and without admitting to both you haven't learned a thing
Dude really needs to go back to high school if he thinks that is a good comparison. He isn't even ready for a community college.
James O'Keeffe of Project Veritas probably reached out to him already.
His life isn't over. And sometime, hell even often, you pay consequences for the fucked up shit you do. Yes, this is how we want the world to be run.
I have no idea why some of you get this way when some racist asshole gets a little of what they dish out back.. Every fucking time. Like it actually offends you guys that being gross like this might ACTUALLY come with some sort of negative blowback. Its unreal. And the variables are always the same. Every single time...
Kid didn't lose a limb, he isn't being sentenced to a lengthy prison sentence, and no one is giving him the punch in the mouth he probably deserves. Hes just not getting into HARVARD.... Jesus Fucking Christ lets pretend that hes being crucified though.
I certainly don't. But I paid a price for mine though. Minus all the bleeding hearts on the internet saying I should be shielded from the consequences of my actions. Still breathing over a decade and a half later. This kid will be fine.
"Teens make mistakes" in my world - swiping something from the gas station or mall
"Teens make mistakes" for rich privileged white kids - calling for genocide
"Teens make mistakes" for rich privileged white kids - calling for genocide
Good, bastard doesn't deserve that spot. To him it was fun teen dayzzz but to the black people that read that shit it was just one of many existential threats they received from some fuck head shit racist to make them feel less than human. That is the only context, perspective and feelings that matter.
Save that for spot for some non fuck shit racist teen.
Save that for spot for some non fuck shit racist teen.
I mean really though.
Remember that old thread with people hopping mad because that lady that made those racists remarks about Aids and Africans lost her job? That was a fully grown ass woman.
The script is always the same. Theres always some excuse why someone shouldn't be punished for being a racist asshole. Its not this kids age, we watch these same posters go to bat for every single one of these douchebags that pop up in the news. From the cradle to the grave it seems, some want them to be given a pass.
the "ACTIONS deserve CONSEQUENCES" crowd of the alleged party of personal responsibility sure do backpedal quickly when it comes to consequences of (allegedly jokingly) calling for genocide
commit petty theft as a teenager? you deserve to be in the school-to-prison pipeline
(allegedly jokingly) call for genocide? how could you have possibly known better, you deserve another chance
commit petty theft as a teenager? you deserve to be in the school-to-prison pipeline
(allegedly jokingly) call for genocide? how could you have possibly known better, you deserve another chance
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Seriously, well said.
"I dont know what I'm gonna do!"
Dude take a year off and work at mcdonalds and look for something better, same as every other graduate who got fucked over for college. It's just an unreal degree of entitlement.
If I was a horrifically racist asshole in high school that got denied opportunities that I was in no way entitled to, would y'all defend me? "Poor little Johnny boy, he was only mildly racist, he didn't mean it, he was just a dumb kid".
Not getting into college would have been the last thing I'd be worried about. I would have a received a savage ass beating, not just from from classmates, but my dad too.
Not getting into college would have been the last thing I'd be worried about. I would have a received a savage ass beating, not just from from classmates, but my dad too.
it's okay for elite colleges to expect their applicants to not only have top tier academic performance, but also to expect prestigious extracurricular talent in the arts and a massive amount of community service hours that poor and working students wouldn't have access to
but expecting them to know better than to joke about mass genocide in a written format? that's a bridge too far
but expecting them to know better than to joke about mass genocide in a written format? that's a bridge too far
Imagine thinking his life is over when we have literal KKK members in police departments across the country. Kids going to fit in with America just fine.
I can't believe this guy thinks that "Slave owners went to Harvard 200 years ago" is somehow a great rhetorical "Gotcha!" Moment. Oh yeah those hypocrites let Cyrus Montgomery Wilkins attend in 1865, so why can't they let in a modern day racist like me?
I wouldn't even expect Fox News to go soft on him, given his anti-Semitic remarks.
Remember when Brett Kavanugh didn't become a supreme court justice after credible accusations of rape came out and his life was over?
This little shit will land on his feet in the republican party.
This little shit will land on his feet in the republican party.
I think only white people get away with the "I was young" excuses too
what young man hasn't gone on hateful slur filled rants, yet attended Harvard regardless? it's just a part of growing up. to deny him that, is to deny him his adolescence.
Rice had 2 seconds to process that he was going to get blasted away for playing with a toy gun in a park.
This fucker has had 2 years to reflect on his racism and he's chosen the worst path at every opportunity. And some people here and elsewhere pleading he should get more chances or his 2 years of reflection isn't enough.
...I was made aware of egregious and callous comments classmates and I made privately years ago...
His comments were made 17 months ago.
They aren't even 2 years old yet.
He's a liar, like the president he adores.
His comments were made 17 months ago.
They aren't even 2 years old yet.
He's a liar, like the president he adores.
I'm 22 and that is no excuse to be saying absolutely vile nonsense. The age range you've given is unacceptable. People in their early 20's know exactly what they're saying and doing.
Oh for sure. This shit is super sore on my nerves because "When they see us" is such a hot topic right now. We are always adults. We never get the benefit of the doubt. Tons of people will jump to the defense of cops when we're murdered and tsk tsk the black people saying fuck all cops.
14 and Black kids "look like adults" "were no angels" "were on something". A White adult terrorist that kills 20 people and the news will do a piece showing them as a blonde hair baby smiling with his parents and asking "how it all went wrong for this person with a mental illness".
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I was emotionally tormented by racist shitbags when I was in high school. I have no sympathy for people like that. They're old enough to understand what they're doing is terrible.
I love these threads with people outing themselves as shitheads and basically trying to excuse their own behavior through proxy of the OP. You will inevitably find them in other threads defending comics using bigotry as "jokes" and calling people too sensitive and something something free speech.
Listening to these people and how they know for sure EVERYONE was shitheads in school I find it amazing me and my circle of friends made it through school not getting into trouble and not having a stream of bigoted, racist shit coming out of our mouths. Somehow, by some divine miracle, we knew those words were awful and hurtful and we actually didn't want to hurt people. And the funny thing is it didn't take Herculean strength or year's of training. In fact it was pretty fucking easy. Go figure.
Listening to these people and how they know for sure EVERYONE was shitheads in school I find it amazing me and my circle of friends made it through school not getting into trouble and not having a stream of bigoted, racist shit coming out of our mouths. Somehow, by some divine miracle, we knew those words were awful and hurtful and we actually didn't want to hurt people. And the funny thing is it didn't take Herculean strength or year's of training. In fact it was pretty fucking easy. Go figure.