also lmao how one bullet blew up an entire gas pump megastructure. You'd think they'd have signs up or something at least.
Blowing up something with one bullet is like a staple in TV shows and movies.
also lmao how one bullet blew up an entire gas pump megastructure. You'd think they'd have signs up or something at least.
It's clearly intermixed with Chief's story. How would they not show it?
Me too.
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I think people are passionate about Halo in general and want a good tv show out of it and they are disappointed about the quality of the Kwan plot.
I'd even go as far as to say, that they've told a less human story, by swapping the "radicalized child soldier" Spartans for "memory wiped and chemically suppressed Spartans who regain painful memories when they encounter an ancient artifact " and swapping the anti-fascist insurrection for "secret order of mystics fulfilling an ancient prophecy "
I think it's kinda funny to hear that part of the reasoning behind this approach was to tell a more human story.
Ikr, rather fortunate a stray shot didn't blow everything up when bullets and plasma were flying all over in the first episode. Would've been a really short show. Tho one might also question the wisdom of basing your armed resistance in a place with such a dangerous liability.also lmao how one bullet blew up an entire gas pump megastructure. You'd think they'd have signs up or something at least.
When Kwan and Soren split up to take out the fuel line, why was there a shot of her handing him his gun back even though he was already holding in in earlier shots in the scene? Really bizarre continuity error that everyone I was watching with picked up on. I don't care to go back through the whole episode to track the ownership of the gun, but I think Kwan was supposed to be holding onto it the entire time up until that point? Felt really sloppy.
Blowing up something with one bullet is like a staple in TV shows and movies.
I think sometimes what happens online is that you get people trying to outdo each other with how much they personally loathe a thing. So it gets ramped up and blown a bit out of proportion through hyperbole.I'm not a fan of the Kwan Ha story, but it doesn't bother me as much as it does other people it seems. The last episode was fine. I figure her arc is now wrapped up and next time we see her she'll be crossing paths with Chief again.
Anyways, I've been really enjoying the show overall so I can't wait to see them get back on track with Chief's story.
true, and I don't really mind the explosion. it's just that shows usually have a justification on why something is now highly combustible. like it's rigged up, or somehow got critically compromised. here they just...turned it on.
these huge open air gas pumps which are the backbone of the madrigal economy when working as intended...are highly susceptible to total destruction from a single ballistic. and that's just a little funny to me.
Soren seems to be able to just teleport between his home and Kwan the way its directedHow the hell do you casually go from "knocked out in the desert" to "back home across space having a party". How does that actually get written, approved, and filmed. That is not something you should leave viewers to imagine the dots between. That was utterly jarring. Quite honestly the single worst crime of the show so far for me, felt like I missed an episode or two of content there.
It brings up the issue of time as well. Same problem GOT7 and 8 had with the random teleporting. It makes time feel disjointed and meaningless.Soren seems to be able to just teleport between his home and Kwan the way its directed
This makes it a little better, even if it's awfully convenient.Madrigal and The Rubble are in the same solar system so it's like a hop sip and a jump. It's not weird that they can go back and forth so quickly imo.
It is convenient but it is also why I assumed they picked that solar system and why it's Madrigal and not some other planet. In original lore, Madrigal gets glassed and the refugees colonize The Rubble. I personally kind of figured they wanted insurrectionist world building and The Rubble is also too cool of a place to ignore. So, they co-opted Madrigal and The Rubble to use them as backdrop for this subplot in the show.This makes it a little better, even if it's awfully convenient.
I wish they communicated that a bit?Madrigal and The Rubble are in the same solar system so it's like a hop, skip, and a jump. It's not weird that they can go back and forth so quickly imo.
Okay, so the Kwan Ha subplot is more like a way to explain geas to the uninitiated. Or at least that is part of the function. If I didn't know anything about Forerunners or geas before coming into this Halo show, I think they did a good job of peeling back the layers on that juuuust a bit. Of course they don't want to reveal all of that up front for your normal viewer but the hints were there with the geas being passed down through generations and the fact that the first of her line was 'visited' by someone 'not of this world'. The Librarian? Some other life worker? A monitor?
I think the episode picked up when Kwan went into her 'dream state' but I did feel like letting her story and Soren's story breathe on their own helped both characters out a lot for me personally. There was definitely not a lot of #haloasshalo in this episode but I thought they did a good job with what they had. I thought it made sense for her to fight Chief, a representation of the UNSC incarnate to her, in utter futility. Her being the insurrection, him being UNSC. And then the hand up from one geas (Chief) to another (Kwan) showing there might be something more important.
LOVED the representation of geas through her lineage. And who was at the beginning talking to the oldest ancestor? Guily Spark or some monitor at least. Another way to tie in geas as there ain't anyone in the universe that represents geas more than 343 and the other monitors.
It seems silver team jumping out of the back of the pelican together will be on Madrigal. I'm excited to find out how they are playing this out with the portal most likely being to Halo. My first thoughts are that they get a group together on Madrigal including Silver Team, Kwan, Soren, Halsey, Miranda, Keyes, Makee, etc. They come here and then The Covenant shows up... maybe glasses it? Maybe shuts down the portal and abandons them on the other side? Iunno. I'm starting to think there might not be a glassing tbh.
Regardless, I liked Kwan more in this episode. I do think this is what a budget action episode looks like. There was plenty of guns and shooting but it was all human on human in easily made sets or reused sets. Good action imo. I suspect they are keeping this stuff here partially because of budgetary reasons so they are making the most of it. Which was better in this episode for me than any part of the Madrigal subplot since the first episode.
I like Kwan more after this episode. I think I needed a focus on her plot. i never hated the actor but I think a lot of what I didn't like was just not knowing her enough. It's not perfect but I'm interested in what comes next for her. Which is more than I can say at any point before this episode.
Yes, agreed. I'm hoping this takes that annoying character trait out of her mostly going forward. The ending shot made me think "NEW KWAN, NEW ME" so I'm hoping this was showing her character growth. She got a ton of development this episode and most of it I liked. I was thinking they might do that but it was definitely heavy-handed RAGE to begin with. If she tempers her anger going forward, which given what she said to the mystics I could see happening, I'm going to like her more.
I feel like that must have been something that was added in reshoots or something. Maybe cause of covid or they originally didn't plan a Kwan solo episode so they needed to add some extra stuff.How the hell do you casually go from "knocked out in the desert" to "back home across space having a party". How does that actually get written, approved, and filmed. That is not something you should leave viewers to imagine the dots between. That was utterly jarring. Quite honestly the single worst crime of the show so far for me, felt like I missed an episode or two of content there.
Don't underestimate how many racist and sexist people there are out there. A whole episode focusing on an Asian female in their sci-fi show is going to upset a lot of the anti-woke mob out there. For reference see Kelly Marie Tran.I can't believe they wasted an entire episode on Kwan Ha. It was so boring, probably the most boring TV episode I've ever seen--can't believe someone approved that storyline. And it completely disrupts the overall pacing of the show.
The episode has a 3.7/10 rating on IMDb, far lower than the other episodes of the series, so it looks like most people thought it was terrible, too.
I can't believe they wasted an entire episode on Kwan Ha. It was so boring, probably the most boring TV episode I've ever seen--can't believe someone approved that storyline. And it completely disrupts the overall pacing of the show.
The episode has a 3.7/10 rating on IMDb, far lower than the other episodes of the series, so it looks like most people thought it was terrible, too.
I don't think it's about the race or the sex. There are so many good and beloved female characters in sci-fi. Even in this show alone, Halsey and Miranda (another WOC) are good characters. Kwan Ha is just annoying, and her overall storyline is not needed. It could have been easily replaced by another storyline closer to the Chief's side of the show. They could have fleshed out the other Spartans instead of wasting screentime on Kwan Ha's story. I don't know, it's just a weird choice, and it's bizarre that they couldn't predict that people would dislike a character like Kwan Ha taking so much screentime.Don't underestimate how many racist and sexist people there are out there. A whole episode focusing on an Asian female in their sci-fi show is going to upset a lot of the anti-woke mob out there. For reference see Kelly Marie Tran.
This. The episode was ok by Halo standards, despite most of the weird Soren stuff. We got character growth for Kwan and it seems like the "rage" that made her annoying af is gone now that she's had closure and understands her purpose.Don't underestimate how many racist and sexist people there are out there. A whole episode focusing on an Asian female in their sci-fi show is going to upset a lot of the anti-woke mob out there. For reference see Kelly Marie Tran.
We haven't seen her full story yet though. It's obvious it will tie into the larger story with talk of a portal and this:I don't think it's about the race or the sex. There are so many good and beloved female characters in sci-fi. Even in this show alone, Halsey and Miranda (another WOC) are good characters. Kwan Ha is just annoying, and her overall storyline is not needed. It could have been easily replaced by another storyline closer to the Chief's side of the show. They could have fleshed out the other Spartans instead of wasting screentime on Kwan Ha's story. I don't know, it's just a weird choice, and it's bizarre that they couldn't predict that people would dislike a character like Kwan Ha taking so much screentime.
We haven't seen her full story yet though. It's obvious it will tie into the larger story with talk of a portal and this:
"Marry me Makee, let us show these trashy UNSC motherfuckers, and your religious nutjobs that we can work together!"Sneak peak of scene from episode 7. Starts at 24:21
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Bit scared at the beginning what John is saying. But later he luckily talks about hope
Thanks for this. That was a great scene. Got me excited for Thursday.Sneak peak of scene from episode 7. Starts at 24:21
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Bit scared at the beginning what John is saying. But later he luckily talks about hope
Next episode is the last of the season, so there is no chance of that.I will laugh when next week's episode is another entire kwan focussed ep and all of this build-up is lost.
Next episode is the last of the season, so there is no chance of that.