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Halo Infinite Adds New Juneteenth Nameplate, Named 'Bonobo' After Species of Ape
- Thread starter Zebesian-X
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So they want us to believe it was just a very unfortunate coincidence that happened with this specific nameplate out of all the nameplates they've created?
You really don't see why releasing an item specifically to commemorate juneteenth called "monkey" and then excusing it with an excuse that should have resulted in other documented instances of this problem happening prior but somehow didn't maybe warrants a bit more thorough investigation and further action?
Really?
That has nothing to do with the issue at hand of how a nameplate shared the same name, for Juneteenth nonetheless.
User Banned (3 Months): Dismissing concerns around racism over multiple posts
I get it, it was VERY unfortunate but it wasn't a name they deliberately choose to publish.
It was inherited from a template generated by an internal tool named like that (following Bungie naming convention too) and was fixed superfast even without the need to release a patch for it + they acknowledged this unfortunate event and timing and apologized on all social media.
Why the need to still burn them down now?
I have seen literally zero evidence for this. This is not meant as a snide remark: Can you produce any?
Please, with no other instances of this happening with that name and on that date? With something to celebrate that date? You can't possibly believe that.
Halo Infinite insensitive Juneteenth color palette quickly removed in recent update
It is now simply labeled "Freedom."
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Halo Infinite insensitive Juneteenth color palette quickly removed in recent update
It is now simply labeled "Freedom."
Uhh the name of the tool should have no bearing on this unless it's a prefix of some sort. Any evidence of this or is that a "best intention" conjecture?
Halo Infinite insensitive Juneteenth color palette quickly removed in recent update
It is now simply labeled "Freedom."
This proves the Bonobo tool exists. It proposes absolutely no mechanism through which the name of the tool was applied to an asset.
So I will ask again: Can you prove the name was pre-set or inherited from an existing template within the tool?
If you don't care about it you can just not post about it. Trying to dismiss people's concerns around racism is super shitty though, especially with baseless claims about how it happened.
They explicitly did not say this.
Halo Infinite insensitive Juneteenth color palette quickly removed in recent update
It is now simply labeled "Freedom."
All this does is prove that the toolset exists, which was never in question. Besides, a report by Kotaku said the tool was largely used in Halo 5, not Infinite.
All they've said is that the toolset with the same name exists. They didn't say the toolset caused the error. They didn't even say the toolset has anything to do with the naming AT ALL.
I'm sorry, diminishing the hurting feeling on seeing that on THAT day was never my intention. Racism is actually shitty on every level.
I've only tried to clear the most probable perspective around this: an unfortunate accident and not 343 being racist.
And you didn't think to check if it had been raised before in a near 700 post thread?
I find it very hard to believe that this is the most probable scenario when even 343 themselves did not claim such a thing in their response on Twitter.
Read it very carefully. The response says "the tool exists and it is named Bonobo". At no point does it propose any workflow or sequence of events that could lead to the name of the tool being applied to an asset.
They don't mention any default names, existing templates, nothing.
All this says is that the toolset exists. Not how it relates to the naming. It's like saying "Mike Hunt is an employee here, but we did not intend to name this NPC Mike Hunt". The first part of the sentence has nothing to do with the latter part, it's just a useless statement saying "Yeah this also has the same name". Their choice of words is very deliberate here. It implies one explanation without stating it, which gives them plausible deniability.
According to Mint Blitz "saving tags within that program is very finicky" (and that tool is up and running since Bungie era) so , yeah, the "Bonobo" tag used as a default when nothing is put in it (or something's not entered correctly) is a real possibility.
I'm not trying to diminish the seriousness of what's happened at all + 343i could have been even more clear with their response, but it's very probable this was an actual accident and that's all.
Saying "saving is finnicky" means literally nothing specific and, again, if Bonobo is the default name for items created in the program why not come out and just fucking say that? (And provide visual proof while they're at it, it really isn't that hard)
Them dancing around the issue like this makes it much more suspicious if anything. It sounds like they're covering for someone.
Highly coincidental that this is the item in which this first came up too.
No one is saying the entire 343 staff is racist. It only takes one or two racist assholes to sneak something like this into play, with the knowledge that if it gets spotted they can just say "it's the name of the toolset, my bad".
It's sly underhanded covert dog whistle shit that racist love doing.
There are racists everywhere. There are absolutely racists in gaming, both consumers and in the industry.
The explanation given by 343 is really non-specific, and reeks of brushing it under the rug instead of being transparent and accountable. Frankly, it's not good enough.
If this was truly and accident it really shouldn't be hard to show how it happened. Otherwise, someone should have been fired.
It's sly underhanded covert dog whistle shit that racist love doing.
There are racists everywhere. There are absolutely racists in gaming, both consumers and in the industry.
The explanation given by 343 is really non-specific, and reeks of brushing it under the rug instead of being transparent and accountable. Frankly, it's not good enough.
If this was truly and accident it really shouldn't be hard to show how it happened. Otherwise, someone should have been fired.
If it's actually the second case, I really hope this already happened.
An accident that happens for the first time in celebration of Juneteenth. Uh-huh.
you basically entered the thread trying to shutdown the discussion, diminish the seriousness of it by telling its a honest mistake.
btw. why do i have to care about a person's lame excuses, whose whole twitter account looks like a advertisement board for 343/halo
What kind of garbage program would just default to the program name when you forget to enter in a tag? Like imagine if you were on a Java IDE and forgot to name a class so it just named all the classes to Java rather than giving you an error message to enter a fucking name.
There's no "smoking gun" proof, but that's the most probable scenario considering how that thing works.
it's not. what program on this planet names empty text fields after itself? and you presented it as a "fact" and told us all to move on and stop talking about it.
It is highly improbable in the absence of evidence to the contrary.
If people are confirming that the tool exists, with that name, with screenshots, then at least one of these people could provide proof that it inserts the name of the tool by default into everything. No one's done that.
Especially considering the ease of producing said evidence.
So?
All right, there's nothing else to add I guess.
every one of your posts on this page has been truly, truly embarrassing.