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Halo Infinite 4k/60 Gameplay Demo
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I've said it earlier, but my issue is that they didn't really show off what an "open world" Halo entails other than that you're in a large area. The trailer seemed TINY glimpses of potential and then Halo 1-3 looking gameplay with occasional grappling
Once again, the shields. Their shield effect in Infinite is just not at all visually attractive to me.
One looks like an effect, infinite's looks like "video game information" if that makes sense.
I'm a little disappointed at the lack of visual flair, like it almost seems like they've gone for a deliberately stripped back/uncluttered style, which is probably what you want for a title with such a big focus on MP, but certainly not a system seller.
Having said that, I really need to see the MP/Forge/Co-Op suite before I make any final judgement - not to mention I have GP so it's getting booted up and played regardless.
Having said that, I really need to see the MP/Forge/Co-Op suite before I make any final judgement - not to mention I have GP so it's getting booted up and played regardless.
If anything the cutscene shown at the beginning of this demo absolutely matched the quality of that cinematic they showed off last year.
Maybe they designed its visual information look around the sub 720p it will be on base xbox one. Either way, it looks bad. Worse than Reach.
I just noticed the low quality assets in the background. Whew, yeah that ain't great. Still I don't think the environment looks too bad during actual gameplay, outside of the pop-in that definitely needs to be worked on.
You sure about that?
This is a game that has almost certainly gone through development hell.
The lead left half way through. It looks incredibly rough just 4 months from release. They are adding core graphical components like RT lighting post launch.
I certainly think development must have been rough, perhaps on the engine side of things. That's my only explanation for the game looking as it does. I still don't think it looks bad, but it's a far cry from what was shown in 2018 and I wonder what the hell happened. I suspect the engine isn't as particularly well suited for high-poly/texture assets as it was intended to be. Which seems like a prety bad issue for an open-world game where smooth LOD transitions are a pretty big necessity.
It doesn't look visually apealling but it sure looks like Classic Halo. I'm in. Looks miles better than Halo 4 and 5 gameplay-wise.
... I KNEW it looked familiar.
And now I can't stop laughing.
Need to superimpose this with the flying lawnmower replaced with the flying warthog.
Yeah all the roasting aside I'm super excited to get my hands on the game, I think they did the best they could to balance old and new. Definitely not perfect, but I do think once more info comes out peoples' minds will change for the better.
343i really has one of the hardest jobs in the industry, and we should appreciate they're doing so much to try and be faithful to as many fans as possible while pushing forward.
Once again, the shields. Their shield effect in Infinite is just not at all visually attractive to me.
I need you to stop. Reach is my favorite Halo game and this is making me want to replay it for 78th time.
So do we think that the thruster isn't in this game or they didn't use it in the demo? If they did and I missed it please let me know.
At the very least I thought this would at least not have massive pop-in, and yet....
It looks like an early current gen game.
It looks like an early current gen game.
My wording also wasn't the best sorry about that everyone. Of course there is nothing wrong with 60fps as a priority.
Ok so I went back and watched the SlipSpace engine demonstration that seemingly had some Infinite gameplay at the end. What the hell happened to that?
Everything else aside these memes coming out are killing me lmao and I'm really digging the open map design the more I re-watch the gameplay.
Everything else aside these memes coming out are killing me lmao and I'm really digging the open map design the more I re-watch the gameplay.
Imagine if they showed the MP as well and announced a beta which started today.... this wouldn't be an issue.
Where is the beta???
Gonna ask again, are pre-orders open for this or not yet?
Also, rewatching it, I think the only thing that's gonna annoy me is that screen edges effect when your shields recharge.
Also, rewatching it, I think the only thing that's gonna annoy me is that screen edges effect when your shields recharge.
Yuuuup. There's never going to be a way to win over every Halo fan. Still, this feel likes a misfire.
Honestly I don't imagine PS5 really will either, unless I'm missing something.
I CANNOT believe that they keep hammering on how this is built from the ground up for series X and this is a Halo that hasn't been possible before and this is what we get, truly a let disappointing.
I mean, it looks "fine". Definitely shows it had to be developed for the OG Xbox One still. Played some MCC Reach on PC recently, and I definitely much preferred how it looks compared to this. Just a bit bland in terms of art direction, definitely aping for nostalgia with Halo CE imo.
I've watched this demo a few times now and it looks fantastic (aside from some pop-in) in motion! These screenshots definitely look like they tell a different story, but during the action the visual style makes everything super easy to read.
I was warm on this demo 480p, then I was cold from those screenshots, now I'm hot after watching at 1080p. Gonna re-watch at 4K when I get home and let the beauty wash over me.
I was warm on this demo 480p, then I was cold from those screenshots, now I'm hot after watching at 1080p. Gonna re-watch at 4K when I get home and let the beauty wash over me.
Like some people in here already mentioned, this feels like a hard overcorrection from 4s & 5s visual style - no edgewear on guns and weird shader choices in general, 343s trademark visual clutter on the hud (e.g. hexagons on shield recharge), mixed audio design and uninteresting encounters.
No matter what you say, I think the Banished design in general is unappealing and ugly from a visual standpoint and I wouldnt miss it if it was completely redesigned.
No matter what you say, I think the Banished design in general is unappealing and ugly from a visual standpoint and I wouldnt miss it if it was completely redesigned.
There is a snippet or two of new gameplay here. I don't remember seeing the energy sword in the reveal
For the most part the gameplay looks fine. I hope they don't just go nuts and add too many weapons just for the sake of it. I need to see at least one utility weapon, be it the Magnum or the Battle Rifle. Sadly, they didn't show that. But also, I felt the visuals were a bit underwhelming. I was hoping to be wowed, but wasn't. Doesn't seem to be a big step up from Halo 5. I also wish they would have detailed whether the game supports a performance mode at 120fps.
Most of all, I was hoping they'd at least give some details about the Multiplayer. Like a small trailer and a Beta date. But they said they would share more on the MP in the coming months... the game comes out in four months. There isn't a whole lot of time to show the MP, release a Beta, then fix things before the game launches. Halo 5 had 11 months from Beta to launch, this game will have what? Maybe 1 or 2 months between Beta and launch. At that point it's basically a Demo.
Most of all, I was hoping they'd at least give some details about the Multiplayer. Like a small trailer and a Beta date. But they said they would share more on the MP in the coming months... the game comes out in four months. There isn't a whole lot of time to show the MP, release a Beta, then fix things before the game launches. Halo 5 had 11 months from Beta to launch, this game will have what? Maybe 1 or 2 months between Beta and launch. At that point it's basically a Demo.
gonna wait to play before jumping to these conclusions. the game did not felt like Bungie's Halo to me at all.
I was immediately a little underwhelmed with the overall fidelity, but I agree that my first impression of the game in motion was that it looked nice and clean.
Like, the shot of the Shrek brute that everyone is going to spend the next 10 years meme-ing about was literally pulled from a frame that you can't even really see in motion.
Still, I'll be interested to see if 343 or Microsoft have anything to say about the reaction to the visual fidelity. There's some weird contrasts to it - for example, Chief himself looks great. The texture mapping looks great on him. There was also a couple of brief shots of in-game cutscenes at the end, that similarly looked great. On the flipside, I almost thought Hyperius looked unfinished as a model, and there was some momentary pop-in and stuff in the gameplay.
Almost makes me wonder if the game is still more WIP in that realize.
And most importantly, as seems to be getting drowned out here, the gameplay looked great. The grapple looks like it'll be fun to use in combat, and the brutes were literally throwing grunts at you, haha.
That's my point. The game was made for Xbox One and is getting ported to Series X. Same deal with BOTW which was made for Wii U and was ported to Switch.
Btw, this tells me 343 was behind development if they can't get Ray tracing for the Series X version at launch.
So much this, and that doesn't even mention level design not based around sprint and clamber despite their presence, confirmed on map pick ups for MP, and the implied dedicated support this game will receive for years to come.
Seems Infinite's is a texture effect applied directly to the models geometry whereas the older overshields were separate geometry encasing the model.
Some observations, first from the demo then from the trailer:
- There's a "1" next to the grappling hook in the UI. That's probably referencing how many uses of it you have before a cooldown. A screen in the pause menu says "Upgrades" so you might be able to upgrade the number of uses before needing the cooldown.
- There's something weird going on with culling. High grass near the Chief gets culled before it's off screen and pops back in after it's back on screen. Lower grass doesn't seem to suffer from this. You can see this when the Chief looks up at the Phantom in the very beginning.
- The map screen has a button to "View Mission" so you can probably have multiple missions going at a time.
- There's also a tab on the pause menu for a Database.
- Missions seem to have individual difficulties. When hovering over the icons on the map, you can see the icon for Normal difficulty.
- The missions also seem to have point values of some sort, possibly XP. The Gun Batteries are worth 0320.
- There's some type of spine structure on the right of the map screen. It kinda looks like the transport system on High Charity from Halo 2.
- I wonder if upgrading the Grapple Shot is how you open up new areas. There looked like huge chasms all around the "island" (the game calls it an island) that you land on.
- The player places a waypoint on the gun battery they end up attacking.
- There's grass pop-in right next to the player when driving the Warthog. The draw distance for it is almost nil.
- The warthog takes a suicide Grunt with two plasma grenades right to the face without being damages.
- There's more information for some weapons before you pick them up. This might be for the first time you come across one. The Pulse Carbine, for instance, has "Assault Rifle | Plasma | Burst" written below it. The VK78 Commando has "Tactical Rifle | Kinetic | Auto." Probably Class | Projectile | Type.
- The player seems to shoot a helmet-less Brute in the head without killing him. This might be a demo-only thing to show him charging.
- The Drop Wall icon takes the place of the Grappling Shot one, but then when the Drop Wall is used, the Grapple Shot comes back. I wonder if the Grappling Shot is permanent but the Drop Wall is a consumable.
- The Spike grenades return.
- The Ravager's extra information is "Launcher | Plasma | Burst"
- The cooldown for the Grapple Shot is very short.
- A piece of debris on the left side of the screen is floating at 4:26
- Ever so briefly, you can see the Pelican the player crashed in when the elevator starts. It's on the left side of the screen
- At 5:37 the player appears to send out a scan. The mission objectives are brought back on screen and explosives are highlighted through the terrain.
- The CQS48 Bulldog is "Shotgun | Kinetic | Spread"
- The Needler is "SMG | Kinetic | Auto"
- The Plasma Pistol is "Pistol | Plasma | Charge"
- During the montage at the end, Chief is in what appears to be the Pelican from the beginning. He's looking at a hologram of the Pelican and a bunch of tags around it that all say "UNSC Infinity." Then all those tags change to "Deceased."
- The Brute Chieftain says that the Halo is under their control and "soon the Auditorium as well." I'm unaware of anything currently in the universe with that name and a quick Google search doesn't turn up anything so it's probably new.
- He also mentions the Harbinger. "The Harbinger and the Banished share the same goal." I believe the Harbinger is new and 343 devs were cagey when asked about them/it. Could be what the Banished call Cortana, but the Chieftain said the Banished and the Harbinger both "fight to honor the will of Atriox" which is not something you'd think Cortana would do after the end of Halo 5. She claimed the Mantle, i.e. a type of responsibility for protecting life in the galaxy. The Banished are like the opposite of that.
- At 0:45 the player throws some type of new equipment. It electrocutes and incapacitates the enemies.
- At 0:55 there's a Marine in the passenger seat and manning the gun of the Warthog the Chief is driving. There's a sneaky cut in there from a shot of the Warthog driving towards the camera to it driving away. The Marines are only in the first shot.
In that it could kill the franchise ?
Potentially.
HALO isn't nearly as strong as it used to be and I think most people would admit a large part of the hype surrounding the new title is nostalgia x new console launch. A really weak entry could do serious damage to what is left of the brand.
I'm not sure what people were expecting. The game has been in development for 5 years, so how were they ever going to be targeting next gen consoles? MS came out long ago that this was a cross gen game, so any expectations that this was going to be a graphical powerhouse were not wise. The game heading back towards its CE roots, along with 4K/60 open world gameplay is intriguing enough for me.
More and more im starting to wonder, why put
Out new consoles this year if the launch games arent going to be impressive? Why not wait a year and come out with Substantial games that actually and truly show off the hardware in meaningful ways. I mean, i could probably get another year out of my one x and ps4 pro
No ADS? lol
What next? You can't play it online. MP only available through LAN at your nearest college.
What next? You can't play it online. MP only available through LAN at your nearest college.
Yeah. I mean, I understand people being upset how it looks vs the slipstream trailer from 2 years ago, and yes, the official screen grabs look pretty bad for an end-of-life X1 game, but maybe, as others have said, it's what had to be done to keep it compatible with the original X1.
Personally, I think the visuals look great on the 4K/60fps video. No, not as amazing as the Slipstream trailer, or as incredible as the Rachet & Clank trailer looked, but not "AA" or "indie game" level either.
I feel for 343i. It's always hard when you work on something for years and most of the response when you finally show it off are how it looks like trash.
I'm here for gameplay and split-screen co-op. If they have that and the game is fun, I'm in. Plus, with Game Pass, it's a no-brainer to at least try it.
I will never understand the dislike for the OST for Halo 4 or 5. It wasn't Marty but they were so good in their own way.
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I disagree. I watched the trailer again in 4K60 and in my opinion the environmental design is just as good as anything I've seen in Destiny excluding skyboxes. Comparing this footage to, say, the EDZ right now, and eh, it looks better to me. That's not even counting the knowledge that I can pick up enemy weapons, vehicles, play split screen co-op, drive multiple characters around in said vehicles, including in the air, grab/interact with objects in the environments affected by physics, etc. all running at twice the FPS on Xbox One as Destiny is. To be fair, I thought the same was true for Halo 5 as well, even though the story was awful (but not quite as bad as Destiny).