I don't either. Fuck her. I'm worried about other, less horrible, women who'll suffer because of the precedent. I just don't think it's a good idea to engage in gendered violence.
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Gun-loving alt-right darling Kaitlin Bennett gets bullied off Ohio University campus.
- Thread starter Musubi
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She uploaded a video on it:
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why give her clicks though
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Maybe don't link that trash here.
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Are you some sort of sympathiser or what? You're really giving off those vibes.
........why are you following her and sharing her vids?
Something I just thought of is that it's interesting timing because something similar, at a much smaller scale, happened at my university last week. The typical random over religious evangelist group (it was like 4 people but they made themselves known with megaphones) arrived on campus to protest and "proclaim the word of God" with the typical "if you're X you're going to hell." Their criteria of going to hell was pretty expansive according to one of their signs which listed at least 20 different demographics from catholics to feminists to socialists.
According to a cop I talked to it didn't escalate with students getting involved until apparently one of them told one student "you're homosexual so you're going to hell" and another student "you're black so you're going to hell." I guess at that point students caught wind and a couple of hundred got together and counter-protested. I was really proud of them when I later realized it wasn't just students that leaned towards the left but also on the right. Kind of like what I see when it comes to Kaitlin Bennett. Regardless of where someone lies politically, I constantly see friends make fun of her and express their hatred of her on social media.
According to a cop I talked to it didn't escalate with students getting involved until apparently one of them told one student "you're homosexual so you're going to hell" and another student "you're black so you're going to hell." I guess at that point students caught wind and a couple of hundred got together and counter-protested. I was really proud of them when I later realized it wasn't just students that leaned towards the left but also on the right. Kind of like what I see when it comes to Kaitlin Bennett. Regardless of where someone lies politically, I constantly see friends make fun of her and express their hatred of her on social media.
Sharing a picture of a half naked man shitting himself is very different than a picture of a half naked woman shitting herself. The power dynamics are completely different.
Not sure about that tbh. Both genders, in the present context where the shitter was a pro-gun nut with awful takes towards gender indentity and races, would be ridiculed just as equally.
They might be mocked in the same magnitude, but not in the same way. The power dynamic beneath the mocking would be completely different .
•Long history of tone policing in Era threads including this one.
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Exactly, there's no doubt in my heart that he's a sympathiser.
It could be her too,
wouldn't put it past this trash to try something like.
"Yeah Nazis should be able to spew their bullshit in public. Take a history class" is some take
She's pathetic and while the correct reaction to her presence is to laugh in her fucking face, throwing shit at her is a close second
"Yeah Nazis should be able to spew their bullshit in public. Take a history class" is some take
"Yeah Nazis should be able to spew their bullshit in public. Take a history class" is some take
I'm one the side of the students for sure and would definitely describe myself as a liberal. That said I don't know why everyone is so for behavior like this. It gets posted on sites and lets the righties say things like "look at these tolerant liberals. They are only tolerant of people who agree with them."
I don't feel bad when bad things happen to and people but I'm of the opinion that you let bad people be bad. The most successful people at truly changing minds did it with non violence and non aggression. This gets her more attention, more clicks, and feeds a narrative that people who think like me can't control their emotions when around someone like her.
Maybe it's because I'm in my mid 30's. I'll admit if I was there and younger I might be doing the exact same thing. And I'm not saying I'm right by any means. No one wants to win the battle more than me I just question if it's the right way.
I should clarify if they are being non-violent. Not about defending oneself from an attack.
I'm not of the opinion that this reaction helped swing people towards my point of view. It gets crazies Fox News interviews and tons of attention. Probably worked out perfect for her brand.
I could be old and out of touch. I haven't heard of her before this. I could also be a hypocrite as I lost my cool verbally at an anti-gay person recently on a college campus. He was spouting the usual stuff with a microphone and I loudly gave him my thoughts at him. But I didn't throw anything or show physical aggression.
If I had it could have been "peaceful biblical man attacked by angry anti-Christian" or some such nonsense. As I said I could be completely wrong.
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As you've clarified, of course there are circumstances where you must respond to harmful behavior in potentially violent ways. I just don't agree that this situation necessitated that response and feel that ignoring her would accomplish the same thing. I know many people here disagree and that's okay. I think we all want the same thing; we just have different opinions on the best way to achieve it. I don't think these differences are problematic. Even though I don't necessarily think the students' response is the best way, if it still leads to de-platforming Kaitlin Bennett, then the result is still positive.
Who gives a shit what nazis say? You gotta realize they are going to say that stuff anyways. If it doesn't happen, they just make up lies. We're long past caring what these people say.
Are you going to mention MLK and Gandhi by any chance? Those are usually the most cited for nonaggression when it's entirely untrue, they both understood the importance of violence w/r/t political change. Our entire country started through revolution. Look at Selma, look at Stonewall.
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Her entire schtick is intruding on people's spaces, being incredibly obnoxious and making them uncomfortable because she has the right to do so. There's a video where a cop tells her that she's clearly unwelcome and bothering people and if she's just there to get a rise out of people she should go home.
While yes her goal is to get run out of places and cry victim, she doesn't leave people any other choice. She's a poster child for how spaces are destroyed by bad faith actors forcing people who don't want to put up with being harassed for trying to exist out.
While yes her goal is to get run out of places and cry victim, she doesn't leave people any other choice. She's a poster child for how spaces are destroyed by bad faith actors forcing people who don't want to put up with being harassed for trying to exist out.
Let's all take a moment to remind ourselves that monstrous people with dangerous philosophies constantly seek out public platforms not with the intent of actually trying to persuade you, enlightened liberal person, but to disseminate their message the largest amount of uninformed, impressionable people possible.
I'm not talking about Nazis. I'm talking about average people. We're not going to convince Nazi's to come to our side.
yeah that's why I prefaced by saying I'm not saying I'm right. I just often question if the tactics used by some in this Twitter/viral culture are hindering us more than helping.
What "average people" support people like Kaitlin Bennet? "Average people" probably shouldn't support nazi talking points and if they do, fuck em.
Are we going to get to "This is why Trump won"?
I started watching Hunters on Amazon prime recently, and between that the latest Watchmen series, it makes me feel catharsis.
What a bunch civilized tone policed cowards we need to become to have to tolerate bigotry because the right wing degenerates, conservatives (the origin points for all status quo throughout all civilizations that institutionally ensured certain part of population would never be acknowledged as same class citizens as the majority by virtue of their racial, gender and/or sexual characteristics and be provided equal rights) and faux progressives dare tell us that doing so would render us bigots and/or that's a slippery slope.
Well, from where I am standing, the result of entertaining the notion that we treat hate speech the same free speech is decades of systematic white washing of past sins of the status quo as well as well as seeding doubts and conspiracies about the atrocities committed by Nazi and other fascist groups. Furthermore, there has been a concerted effort to muddy the waters by assigning labels to people who are undeserving of them (like calling Bernie a "commie") ensuring further confusion for the average public who do not engage with governmental politics on a daily basis.
All in all, the right wing engine, in the time of relative peace has attached its roots in all aspects information dissemination and poisoned the well of history meaning that eventually the cycle will repeat anew.
But no, let's entertain these degenerate bigoted scum because "civility". Don't recall any of this civility from the other side just because they don't like minorities though.
Fuck that noise and fuck that gun toting piece of shit.
A good Nazi is a dead Nazi, now and forever.
What a bunch civilized tone policed cowards we need to become to have to tolerate bigotry because the right wing degenerates, conservatives (the origin points for all status quo throughout all civilizations that institutionally ensured certain part of population would never be acknowledged as same class citizens as the majority by virtue of their racial, gender and/or sexual characteristics and be provided equal rights) and faux progressives dare tell us that doing so would render us bigots and/or that's a slippery slope.
Well, from where I am standing, the result of entertaining the notion that we treat hate speech the same free speech is decades of systematic white washing of past sins of the status quo as well as well as seeding doubts and conspiracies about the atrocities committed by Nazi and other fascist groups. Furthermore, there has been a concerted effort to muddy the waters by assigning labels to people who are undeserving of them (like calling Bernie a "commie") ensuring further confusion for the average public who do not engage with governmental politics on a daily basis.
All in all, the right wing engine, in the time of relative peace has attached its roots in all aspects information dissemination and poisoned the well of history meaning that eventually the cycle will repeat anew.
But no, let's entertain these degenerate bigoted scum because "civility". Don't recall any of this civility from the other side just because they don't like minorities though.
Fuck that noise and fuck that gun toting piece of shit.
A good Nazi is a dead Nazi, now and forever.
Average people see responses. It gets filtered to them. Like I said I had never even heard of her. But I'm smart enough to read and see she's awful. Many are going to see that a woman was harassed because she loves guns or something. That's who I'm talking about. I'm from a rural area and I see people with their facebooks and I could definitely see this being on there. They aren't Nazi's. They have been convinced that colleges are liberal only zones which hate those whose opinions don't match them. Most of these people aren't very intelligent and don't realize what's been fed to them.
And no I don't think this is why Trump won. Wanting a liberal version of him isn't the key to defeating that mindset though imo. And before anyone jumps to that conclusion I'm not comparing these students to him in the least bit.
At some point we need to ask ourselves why we would attempt to give someone the exact response they are after. And realize that they are after that response for a reason.
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