I wonder how many European countries who think America is unfixable have their own far right parties gaining in popularity? Let's dispel the notion that Europe is some idealized utopia in contrast
Many of those countries realize that if they had America's two-party-non-coalition-every-state-gets-two-senators-redistricting-done-by-political-actors-electoral-college-determines-the-president system, they'd be just as screwed and it's the guardrails in their own system that's prevented their own far right parties, who have been gaining in popularity, from actually getting and holding onto the levers of power the way Republicans managed in the US.
I wonder how many European countries who think America is unfixable have their own far right parties gaining in popularity? Let's dispel the notion that Europe is some idealized utopia in contrast
The Netherlands has the same problem with right nationalism. The PVV was second during the last election and has been up in the polls ever since. The next elections are in March and I'm afraid that they might exceed their current poll numbers. The cabinet also resigned last week and the biggest party in the coalition is slowly falling in the polls.Agreed that the system itself seems to have broken down in the US with levers of power being so entrenched. We will see what Biden can accomplish with both house and senate though. Last time democrats held it, we passed as close a form of universal healthcare as we could at the time, trending in the right direction.
I just find it rich when Europeans look down on US right wing nationalism as some uniquely American problem when Le Pen in France had a decent showing/Boris Johnson in England as a wannabe trump, as well Germany's flirting with their far right national parties as recently as last year. Couple that with actual right wing nightmares like Hungary/Poland and Europe doesn't look quite like the moral ground it thinks it has.
Why is the UK more pro-EU than many of the European countries in the EU?! I am confused...Some interesting graphs in the original study I'd like to highlight (but the whole study is well worth reading):
The notion in the Guardian article about Poland and Hungary in this question is pretty misleading. "Neither" is actually the biggest block for Poland and nearly as big as "(strongly) disagree" for Hungary. The latter being bigger than "(strongly) agree" is true for the Netherlands as well, but I guess that doesn't fit the narrative.
Also, that Germany result is quite something.
Poland and Hungary be like, "LMAO you wanna see a real broken system?"
Really interesting how strong the "Europe" block is in the UK and how different the results are Europe-wide.
These two should really worry American policy makers. Even in Poland, more people want to stay neutral in a conflict against Russia. And I don't think the risk of invasion is a big part of that.
I guess this is unsurprising and also something that tech giants might have had a bigger role in than Trump, to be quite honest.
Some fun for the end. See, dear Frenchmen? We actually do like you!
Really interesting how strong the "Europe" block is in the UK and how different the results are Europe-wide.
Why is the UK more pro-EU than many of the European countries in the EU?! I am confused...
The Netherlands has the same problem with right nationalism. The PVV was second during the last election and has been up in the polls ever since. The next elections are in March and I'm afraid that they might exceed their current poll numbers. The cabinet also resigned last week and the biggest party in the coalition is slowly falling in the polls.
Opinion polling for the 2021 Dutch general election - Wikipedia
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That's the one of the advantages of a multiparty system for sure.At the same time, Wilders has proven himself an unreliable coalition partner in the past and few parties are extremely eager to work with him. Which is a guardrail in and of itself since it means that if a sizable part of the population doesn't want him in power, the other parties will be incentivized to form a coalition without him and the only way he'd be able to force himself into power would be to win a majority (rather than a plurality) of the votes, which is extremely unlikely to happen.
Oh, sure, that's definitely a part of it, but I'm still surprised. Maybe not about a lack of Anti-European sentiment, but more so about a lack of pro-American sentiment (or the relative size of each one), if that makes any sense?Anti-EU sentiment holds a very, very, marginal plurality in the UK.
Anti-European sentiment is by far in the minority in the UK.
Sadly those views get massively over-amplified by our press and politicians.
Agreed that the system itself seems to have broken down in the US with levers of power being so entrenched. We will see what Biden can accomplish with both house and senate though. Last time democrats held it, we passed as close a form of universal healthcare as we could at the time, trending in the right direction.
I just find it rich when Europeans look down on US right wing nationalism as some uniquely American problem when Le Pen in France had a decent showing/Boris Johnson in England as a wannabe trump, as well Germany's flirting with their far right national parties as recently as last year. Couple that with actual right wing nightmares like Hungary/Poland and Europe doesn't look quite like the moral ground it thinks it has.
Yeah, Biden won't be able to do a damn thing if and when Republicans decide to overturn the next election that doesn't go their way. I don't think America will exist as a democracy the next time Republicans hold both chambers of Congress.Why is this on Biden? GOP is causing the problems. They need to walk back the "stop the steal" nonsense. They need to return to reality. That's the "fix".
It may just be my personal perception, but I'd say the UK has a bit of a reputation on the continent of being much farther out on the Atlantic than it geographically is, even culturally. I mean, even the Xbox sells there!
And that's not just meant as a joke. Of course everyone saw what happened when Trump visited the UK, but I guess they're still seen as the closest to the US on the continent, or at least in Western Europe.
The US never lived up to this, it's just taken a while for the citizens of other countries to realised they were being lied to.And you raise a valid point but the thing is, those countries aren't superpowers and aren't presenting themselves as the influencial pioneer/leader of democracy much like how the US is. For years the United States has promoted and marketed itself as not only a advocate for democracy but also a saviour to the world.
To the world, The United States is the textbook representation of a democracy. It is the only nation that many democratic nations like Poland/Hungary/Germany/France as well as non-democratic nations with democractic-driven political parties look to not just for support but influence and validation in their cause. It is vital for the US to set a good example based on the message that it is projecting to the world that democracy = good. Sadly, it is not doing a good/believable job for many years.
Not only did Trump's victory noticeably embolden the right in other countries, but the US has played a large role in proliferating the current playbook.And given the influencial nature of the US to the world, some might argue that the acceleration of far right politics succeeding is because of Trump. It's not to say that Trump started the movement but it perhaps validated them in many nations abroad given that the if it's acceptable in the US (as the model of democracy) then it is the right direction.
It's had a good run. The current US system of government is the oldest in the world, most European countries would have long since collapsed and rebuilt by now.Yeah, Biden won't be able to do a damn thing if and when Republicans decide to overturn the next election that doesn't go their way. I don't think America will exist as a democracy the next time Republicans hold both chambers of Congress.
I just find it rich when Europeans look down on US right wing nationalism as some uniquely American problem when Le Pen in France had a decent showing/Boris Johnson in England as a wannabe trump, as well Germany's flirting with their far right national parties as recently as last year. Couple that with actual right wing nightmares like Hungary/Poland and Europe doesn't look quite like the moral ground it thinks it has.
Maybe not in 10 years, but it's inevitable. American hegemony is on its last legs.Amid a widespread sense of growing Chinese superiority, 79% of those polled in Spain, 72% in Portugal, 72% in Italy and 63% in France said they thought China would overtake the US as the world's leading superpower within the next decade.
The UK and USA are two nations divided by a common language.
Culturally we are bound to one another by the same ties that drove us apart in the first place, you might say it's a very special relationship.
The US never lived up to this, it's just taken a while for the citizens of other countries to realised they were being lied to.
.No president will fix the inherent problems with the governing system because they (dems and republicans) both benefit from a two party system
Where in Europe is that supposed to be?Hating the US is basically taught to a large chunk of Europeans from a young age so no surprise there.
Yeah, from a foreign perspective, the fact an additional 10 million+ more Americans voted for Trump in 2020 compared to 2016, even with a relatively safe and vanilla Biden alternative, is shocking. Something is very broken.As a Canadian, the fact that so many americans voted for him AGAIN in 2020 was worse than 2016 from an outside perspective.
In 2016, you could make a (weak) case for frustration with old style politics and need for change. That Trump was making his show to win and would not be as bad as people think once becoming president. Even Obama said "this job changes you".
Of course it didn't happen.
In 2020, no excuses. None.
Nope - wouldn't trust America at all right now. Growing up I dreamed of the idea of moving to America.
As I've got older and more life wise not only do I believe your political system is broken but your social welfare system, healthcare, employee law (do I need to go on?) is broken too.
I'll stay this side of the pond thanks!
England, France, Holland for sure. Obviously is not everyone but there is a clear cultural distaste for Americans there. Not that it's unearned!Where in Europe is that supposed to be?
In Germany it's the complete opposite.