I've thought this from the beginning, he only cares that they give him attention.I highly believe that Trump is disgusted by his fans and would never go out of his way to help them
You can be pardoned before you've even been arrested. Won't happen because it opens up civil lawsuits against Trump for the riot.Even if trump decided to pardon everyone they haven't actually been convicted so they can't be pardoned yet, right?
Yeah that is what I also think it would signal. It would be a pretty damn response when Republicans try the "was anyone actually instructed by Trump to storm the capitol?" talking point. Why he felt compelled to pardon the insurrectionists? (They would say either "to heal" or "these ones were the peaceful ones in that mob"). But would be a good point to make by the Dems if he went ahead and pardoned those insurrectionists.If he pardons them, he's admitting he invited them to attack the capitol.
Will be interesting to see if Dems are willing to take the unusual step of "removing a President" even after he's gone. I feel like caving on this and instead talking about "healing the wounds" or something would be a very Democratic Party thing to do.
It's the opposite of the "no angel" bullshit they wheel out when black people get arrested.What the heck does being an "active practitioner of yoga" have to do in a criminal (or even character) defense? I wouldn't think more or less or a person if they run or lift weights. Is there something coded in there I'm missing?
I agree. It's ridiculous that presidential pardons are even possible. The United States treats their president like a king.Yeah, I can't stress enough how this idea is simply insane to me. The President of the United State of America can give complete legal immunity to someone(s) for a crime(s), past, present, or future.
Not future, only past.I hope you're right, if such a thing were to happen in the next 4 days.
Yeah, I can't stress enough how this idea is simply insane to me. The President of the United State of America can give complete legal immunity to someone(s) for a crime(s), past, present, or future.
Optics. Primarily, to keep his lunatic base suckling on his orange teat.
I like it
Nah, not going to happen. One, he doesn't give a fuck about them. Two, it opens him up to civil suits and other problems.50/50 Trump does pardons them on his last day and we should be prepared for that
This is my feeling. He certainly doesn't care about them, but he does love being a troll to the left. He also might think it will help fundraising. So who knows.50/50 Trump does pardons them on his last day and we should be prepared for that
What's the point of trolling without a social media accountThis is my feeling. He certainly doesn't care about them, but he does love being a troll to the left. He also might think it will help fundraising. So who knows.
excellent point. Who even is he now?
So, if Trump is impeached or even prosecuted for inciting insurrection, any pardon he gives over this BS would be deemed invalid, right? It can't be legal for the president to tell people to break the law and then pardon them in a democracy.
This is my feeling. He certainly doesn't care about them, but he does love being a troll to the left. He also might think it will help fundraising. So who knows.
I doubt there's any precedent for reversing a presidential pardon. It might add to his legal problems once he leaves the White House but, like, there's some real "I'm already in prison so what are they gonna do, throw me in prison?" vibes there. He's already going to lose everything and possibly spend the rest of his life in prison, so there isn't much more they can do to him for pardoning everyone that attempted the coup on his orders.
Right, I'm not wondering what'll happen to him but whether there would be a legal mechanism to reverse that pardon, even without precedent (this would have to create a precedent).I doubt there's any precedent for reversing a presidential pardon. It might add to his legal problems once he leaves the White House but, like, there's some real "I'm already in prison so what are they gonna do, throw me in prison?" vibes there. He's already going to lose everything and possibly spend the rest of his life in prison, so there isn't much more they can do to him for pardoning everyone that attempted the coup on his orders.