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GRRM (Blog): "Reflections on a Bad Year" - "Still have hundreds of more pages to write" (TWOW)
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I like Abercrombie , but I think he is too cruel even for game of thrones. It often feels like GoT is not dark for the sake of being dark, but more trying to be more of a reflection of what medieval times were like (I mean within the constraints of it being a fantasy book). Not everyone is horrible all the time. From what I read from joe Abercrombie (first four books), very few people are redeemable if anyone at all.
I've read the first book and don't agree as it didn't pull me in the same way Game of Thrones did. Maybe it needs a few more books to get going.
Brandon Sanderson's Stormlight Archive series looks to be more up my alley, Way of Kings is fantastic so far. Doubt anything will ever top ASOIAF though.
"I still have hundreds of more pages to write to bring the novel to a satisfactory conclusion.
That's what 2021 is for, I hope."
This doesn't seem too bad? He's hoping to finish the book before next year. That's something.
That's what 2021 is for, I hope."
This doesn't seem too bad? He's hoping to finish the book before next year. That's something.
I look forward to whatever half-finished thing they manage to edit together out of his draft chapters and notes in 2030 or whatever.
(I'm actually probably more hopeful than most in that I think TWoW does release eventually, but the last book seems just logistically impossible at this point)
(I'm actually probably more hopeful than most in that I think TWoW does release eventually, but the last book seems just logistically impossible at this point)
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I read somewhere that he's working on both at the same time, so he won't be starting from the beginning when this book is done.
As someone who hasn't read a single line of any of the books, I can't help but laugh whenever one of these updates pop up.
It feels like a dead meme revived once or twice a year. But I can imagine it sucks if you were eagerly anticipating the last 2(?) books.
At least you will always have season 8.
It feels like a dead meme revived once or twice a year. But I can imagine it sucks if you were eagerly anticipating the last 2(?) books.
At least you will always have season 8.
There's no indication that he's working on both. One can guess that he might be, but there's no evidence.
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GRRM unequivocally shot this down some blog posts ago, he's only working on TWOW. He's not secretly also working on ADOS.
I still believe. It will be out sometime in the next few years. Don't have much hope of getting another book afterwards.
The book & show plot diverged very significantly though. I mean in the book we've got
a resurrected Catelyn Stark walking around!
i do kind of hear the kill bill music in my head when i read these posts every year
edit: in that i feel myself losing my grip on reality, not anything darker than that, lol
edit: in that i feel myself losing my grip on reality, not anything darker than that, lol
Nah, I don't agree. There's plenty of humanity and moments of decency even in the grimdark world of Abercrombie too, and I find the mood in ASoIaF to be generally bleaker and somber than in Abercrombie's books, where there's a bit more moments of (admittedly often dark) humour.
Agreed. Things can be bleak in Abercrombie's work, but his prose is so stuffed with humor and wit that it's hard to not chuckle at least once even in the grimmer, darker moments.
Right. The way he works is that he writes character pov chapters, multiple chapters at a time per character. So he might write like 5 Jon chapters in a row, then 5 Arya chapters, etc. Then once he's getting the book together he'll piece the chapters where they need to go in the flow of the story. So it wouldn't surprise me if he was to say "hey this year I wrote 12 Jon chapters, 7 of which are in TWOW of 5 will be in ADOS". For example.
He's certainly not the most efficient writer out there but it is what it is.
Interesting I have the diametrically opposed perception. I can't remember many moments of decency (at least not one motivated by 'moral' reasons) in the blade itself . I do agree that Abercrombie is funnier though.
Yeah, sure, ok GRRM...
I'm expecting to see an obituary article reporting the death of GRRM rather than a finished book at this point.
I'm expecting to see an obituary article reporting the death of GRRM rather than a finished book at this point.
Same
I guess it depends on the years straight after TWOW is out. If we get the next book say 2022, and GRRM can use his momentum to barge straight into ADOS, and just keeps going with the end in sight, he has a chance
If he gets bogged down doing giant worldwide book tours for TWOW or getting involved with the GoT spinoff shows, and repeats all that delayed this book, ADOS seems more and more unlikely
Also, at that point he'd be nearing 80 and nobody can fault him if he can't keep up his former writing speed anymore and just wants to enjoy life
Thank you, I initially missed it.
Good post indeed, hat tip to sphagnum :D
Nothing is "landing" on you George that you can't just say "no" to. Just own up to the fact that you're more interested in monetizing your work than finishing it.
Yes he does. But anyone sensible has long since given up. I sure won't be buying the novel.
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GRRM isn't our bitch but we're also not his. We're under NO obligation to just smile and nod every time he lies to us about how much he's written year after year.
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No he's not.
A grift would be releasing a lot of spin-off shit for us to buy while promising an end to the series. He's not making money by not releasing anything. While World of Ice and Fire and Fire and Blood are indeed not the main series, he also didn't write them alone and they also took a while. He's not exactly churning out content for us to buy. This is the opposite of grifting, if anything you could call it him resting on his laurels.
Shit, at this point we're not even confirmed that he'll finish the side shit either. We got no updates on a future Dunk & Egg story. And we got no idea when the 2nd part of Fire & Blood is coming.