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GRID has 40 car mode on Stadia 'just not possible on other hardware
- Thread starter Kleegamefan
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Daytona USA and Daytona USA CE had 40 cars on the Saturn. Nice to see the latest tech at last catch up with the incredible SEGA Saturn.
Reading it I got the impression it meant more that they could have higher player counts in multiplayer because the latency between Stadia instances (for each player) was lower/guaranteed to be low, rather than using multiple Stadia instances for a single player?
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If they make a 1000 player battle royal game, I won't sub but I'll try a month just to see how it is.
They can make great things with this, It's ashame It's Google who're holding the reins and not Sony/Microsoft.
They can make great things with this, It's ashame It's Google who're holding the reins and not Sony/Microsoft.
Okay come on those are wildly different examples, and also would require a lot less processing power as there's not nearly as much graphics, physics to calculate on those games.
I WAS being Sarcastic... Mind you it was impressive to see 40 cars on track with Daytona CE on the Saturn
I call bullshit to the maximum. You mean to tell me that even the most beast of PCs can't do this? That we'll have 40 cars, streaming the game, online? I'll believe when I see it.
As someone who has put a dozen hours into the new GRID I can confidently say there are times where I find myself annoyed there are 20 cars on the track at the same time. Most of the tracks feel too congested with that many cars on them.
40 sounds like a mess that no one would ever ask for, but cool sales pitch I guess.
40 sounds like a mess that no one would ever ask for, but cool sales pitch I guess.
This just makes me want a real-time Le Mans sim.
Only on Stadia's quantum cloud computers.
Only on Stadia's quantum cloud computers.
Yeah it definitely is pretty impressive even back then, but if this is GRID with desctructive car physics then I'm gonna be super impressed.
It's coming within a month of launch. There's a bunch of other games coming before 2020.
I really hope we start seeing games / experiences that literally aren't possible with just local hardware. If not, just to show what's possible with new approaches that not necessarily need to replace all existing solutions, but to complement.
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Sony and Microsoft make games that also have to run on legacy hardware(which is why I doubt xCloud will be able to do everything Stadia can) Or at least that's their current policy is.
Google is exclusively cloud based hardware so they won't have that policy, for better or worse.
I dunno, maybe Amazon could do something similar, but I don't think they have the investment in video codecs (VPx)like Google has either...
If this kind of thing manifests more broadly, I think this can be a cool benefit of Stadia versions, re: providing scale experiences that other platforms can't offer as easily. The specific 40 number doesn't sound particularly impressive, but that idea is worth pushing.
I have my doubts about this being "real" in its current state. In the sense of the game engine needs to plow through all the data if they're truly expanding the scope, and a lot of racing titles out there are already a stone's throw from this on previous-gen, local-only hardware. For just plain engineering/feasibility, racing titles simplify the simulation outside of the player's immediate vehicle and surroundings, so it's easy to imagine this being a more superficial gimmick. But it's still neat, and one of the more feasible/fascinating pitches I've seen for Stadia as a platform.
I have my doubts about this being "real" in its current state. In the sense of the game engine needs to plow through all the data if they're truly expanding the scope, and a lot of racing titles out there are already a stone's throw from this on previous-gen, local-only hardware. For just plain engineering/feasibility, racing titles simplify the simulation outside of the player's immediate vehicle and surroundings, so it's easy to imagine this being a more superficial gimmick. But it's still neat, and one of the more feasible/fascinating pitches I've seen for Stadia as a platform.
There will never be 40 people in the same race in Stadia Grid online on any case.
That doesn't sound that impressive tbh. I can't imagine a racing game being more demanding than something like Battlefield that has 64 players and a metric shit ton of variables and destructability.
Low latency between players = more players in MP.
Finally, I have heard an actual, legitimate USP for Stadia.
Finally, I have heard an actual, legitimate USP for Stadia.
Grid 2019 cannot have 40 drivers on the current platforms because there aren't 40 people online.
Yeah, Gran Turismo Sport has 20 players and it's running at twice the framerate with better graphics.
MAG on PS3 had 256 players at the same time. Cell was a beast!
This has something to do with online play not the specs of a hardware
Why do people come out with such transparent bullshit?
Tell me you can't sync up 500 clients without the awesome power of the cloud and I'll probably believe you. Tell me 100 and I'll give you some side-eye, because there are a few very, very popular games out right now that happen to have a 100 player limit.
But 40? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of multiplayer games more than capable of handling that many clients, already out there, already playable. Acting like this is only possible thanks to Stadia magic and wouldn't be possible otherwise is just obviously false.
Tell me you can't sync up 500 clients without the awesome power of the cloud and I'll probably believe you. Tell me 100 and I'll give you some side-eye, because there are a few very, very popular games out right now that happen to have a 100 player limit.
But 40? There are hundreds, if not thousands, of multiplayer games more than capable of handling that many clients, already out there, already playable. Acting like this is only possible thanks to Stadia magic and wouldn't be possible otherwise is just obviously false.
It's always been possible. Especially with PC. The bigger issue is this isn't real life, with professional drivers. Devs never dedicated resources to a mode like this because it would be a gimmick nobody played. 40 human racers in an online game? It's going to be one big destruction derby with toxic raging about what an asshole everyone else is for ramming their front end in.
Microsoft offloaded compute to the cloud for Crackdown 3. *
Being in the same datacenter has advantages, but if everyone needs a fast low-latency connection anyways you could do traditional local rendering and still offload cloud compute fairly successfully.
* Obviously the games development / release had massive issues, but they did pull off cloud based destruction in that one multiplayer mode