Greed Island Mafia |OT|: Insert joke here

Natiko · May 13, 2020

Verelios said:
Thoughts? You haven't struck out to me this game, which is weird given how much you like to post. I'm trying to remember if you just like mid game more.

Something about Royal gives me pause, and when I thought about it more it was the confidence he came in with. I know a lot of people were feeling themselves because of their roles but it stood out to me.

Salva is kind of all over the place, but I'm not sure that's alignment indicative. He just seems to be reacting more strongly than I'd expect to you, Sorian, Monkey, whoever, but that's apparently in line with how he plays, so I'll just lean null on this. I'm not sure how to take the Monkey/Salva interaction. It seemed like Monkey was prodding as she does which Salva definitely didn't like and it kind of spiraled.

Which brings us to Monkey. I don't know. I feel like in some capacity Monkey has been reaching in her posts, and the question is if it's for good reason. It's D1 though and I understand why some liberties might need to be taken to get more information. We also see the 'maybe' resurgence of the buddycop Monkey/Saw duo which makes me hesitant. Saw has been a wildcard that I've been feeling bad and good about this game.

RE: Royal - stood out to you in a good or bad way?

What from Saw was standing out and making you go back and forth?

empressdonna said:
I know that there are quite a few players on the roster that would normally worry me as scum, but honestly, I am worried the most about blarg right now as I feel his silliness will make him a hard read for me personally later on although I could say the same about kyaa.

So you could say right now based on me worrying about trying to figure them out later on that both blarg and kyaa are on my panic list.

I'd dig into this more as I personally don't agree with the logic (that reading a zany player over multiple days is harder than reading a logical person), but I actually feel like I recall you taking this stance in a previous game as well.

turmoil7 said:
I've played with Bear twice, I think, both times he died on D1 so I will hard defend him.

If he is scum, well played 🤷‍♂️

Shh, don't give people an easy out.

Verelios said:
It just occured to me that I don't know what your read of Monkey is.

Null, like a majority of people right now. I'm actually pretty bad at reading Monkey. I think I was wrong on her alignment in the last game we played for 95% of it, and while I eventually landed correctly I almost spite voted her out purely out of an abundance of caution lol

empressdonna · May 13, 2020

Verelios said:
Hm. You're not worried about a town circle forming and the town leader being scum?

I.. I don't understand why you would think this. Of course, having a town leader being scum after them seeming so innocent would be a bad thing but there doesn't seem to be an obvious town leader right now?

So right now, I'm working on the thought process of 'who would I get rid of to help town?'

Natiko said:
I'd dig into this more as I personally don't agree with the logic (that reading a zany player over multiple days is harder than reading a logical person), but I actually feel like I recall you taking this stance in a previous game as well.

I understand that it might just be me that struggles and others don't but that is where my mind is at the moment.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Blargonaut said:
Dr. Monkey building off of how you responded to my earlier query; if you were hypothetically Mafia-aligned, and armed with the knowledge to wit that in the context of this particular game, it would be the potential for self-actualisation that you would be ripping from the figurative heart of one of your fellow players Tonight besides their figurative life, would you still do it, especially having sworn the Hippocratic Oath?

If I were Mafia I'd be afraid of being outed since I'm cop bait so I'd probably be in favor of all the kills. But maybe everyone asked for vests so I'd be sweating that. I dunno. All a thought exercise anyway cause no one's gonna do it :(

Anyway, good morning, catching up.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Royal_Flush said:
It's only six hours in, so it may be that there just isn't anything else, but Kyan's two posts give easy takes on almost all points of discussions I remember in this game so far (except for policy-lynch-Sorian-or-dont, which, I dunno, isn't entirely serious I think?)

Also, I don't really get why Monkey is Town-Reading Salva. There are quite a few posts that rub me in a strange way, I don't like it. I can't even specifically pinpoint to one (Maybe I could if I could be arsed to go through his posts again, but not rn. Maybe later. Point still is that none of them specifically rubbed me enough to add them to the multi-quote collection I gathered while going through the thread). It's just an overall gut feeling.

Geno said:
Mostly gut, also I don't see scum being so active D1 but then again it's my first game with him.

Geno answered it before I could. Posting a ton, obviously without a plan or a lot of plotting behind responses, just going off the cuff, pure response and reaction. You can do it as scum but the chances you'll slip are much higher so right now, odds are he's town.

I feel you on not liking a lot of the posts, Royal, but I don't seem them as scum-driven, so they're just a different play style, probs.

Fran · May 13, 2020

Natiko said:
I think Fran implied the special type roles could be made into neutrals.

I didn't implied anything.

Also flavour is just flavour. Don't waste your time focusing on it.

Kyanrute · May 13, 2020

Donna's desire to off those that she considers reliable unknowns is pretty in character imo. Don't kill Kyaaa though :(

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

I gotta do some schoolwork with the littles and then I will finish my catchup. There was also something I thought about all night that bugged the shit out of me but I wanna see if anyone else brought it up first and why am I even mentioning now when I'm not gonna say lol I guess because I'm mobile and don't wanna delete. 🤷🏻‍♀️ My brain is sludge. Thanks, pandemic.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Verelios said:
Hm. You're not worried about a town circle forming and the town leader being scum?

I'm not worried about this happening in the slightest.

Dr. Monkey said:
If I were Mafia I'd be afraid of being outed since I'm cop bait so I'd probably be in favor of all the kills. But maybe everyone asked for vests so I'd be sweating that. I dunno. All a thought exercise anyway cause no one's gonna do it :(

Anyway, good morning, catching up.

If you were mafia, you'd bake godfather into the role you were allowed to make yourself.

Please.

And yes, sure, maybe you didn't get the right type to do that but my reading of the situation is that modifiers were just kind of free game.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Also Natiko since I noticed the question. The only thing stopping me from voting Bear is a vague politeness that I know his last few mafia experiences haven't been great and I feel bad about railing on him when my negative read is on a single interaction (it's kind of his only interaction but still).

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Also also

VOTE: Natiko

Zippedpinhead · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
If you were mafia, you'd bake godfather into the role you were allowed to make yourself.

See I think if you tried to bake that into a role if would come with some severe downsides.

I mean look at the role you made and if it got downgraded.

I think unless we see a day ability we need to play this as a normal mafia day 1.

Now most of the time that is a complete shit show all in the last 15 minutes, but you know normal!

I need to check the fireblend tool and see if anyone (other than me) is posting weird.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Zippedpinhead said:
See I think if you tried to bake that into a role if would come with some severe downsides.

I mean look at the role you made and if it got downgraded.

I think unless we see a day ability we need to play this as a normal mafia day 1.

Now most of the time that is a complete shit show all in the last 15 minutes, but you know normal!

I need to check the fireblend tool and see if anyone (other than me) is posting weird.

I am the master of ultimate balance in mafia games so maybe my view is skewed but my ability was approved as I wrote it, no downgrade. Based on that and the fact that Fran said no major changes after the deadline, I don't think my experience was abnormal.

Zippedpinhead · May 13, 2020

ok checked the tool, and I can't see anything immediately out of the ordinary. at least forthe first 18 hours.

I think sorian is being nice with the Bear, although it is undeniable that Bear has gotten a bad shake the last few games I observed with him in it.

Aeleus · May 13, 2020

Muffin said:
Feels bad to agree with Sorian but I got the same impression. I dont really get why Sneeks would mention him as someone she would shoot, and her reasoning wasnt very convincing.

Do you town lean him or do you just not like Sneeks reasoning?

Also I've liked what Donna's posted recently, seems like she's much more eager to put out her own thoughts than she was in Stardew Valley (though maybe the victory has made her overconfident :P)

Zippedpinhead · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
I am the master of ultimate balance in mafia games so maybe my view is skewed but my ability was approved as I wrote it, no downgrade. Based on that and the fact that Fran said no major changes after the deadline, I don't think my experience was abnormal.

I guess none of us decided to try and shoot for the moon. but adding a caveat to a static ability wouldn't be a major change. I took major changes as "your abilities/actions break my game so here instead" as opposed to a minor change which would be "this sounds neat, here is something that makes it not as broken".

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Zippedpinhead said:
ok checked the tool, and I can't see anything immediately out of the ordinary. at least forthe first 18 hours.

I think sorian is being nice with the Bear, although it is undeniable that Bear has gotten a bad shake the last few games I observed with him in it.

Fwiw, I think he got some unneeded flak as moderator more than player and I was one person that did give him grief for something so that's more it.

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Random thought I had last night when I peeked into the thread but never actually posted, have Stuart444 and empressdonna been different alignments in the same game before?

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Zippedpinhead said:
I guess none of us decided to try and shoot for the moon. but adding a caveat to a static ability wouldn't be a major change. I took major changes as "your abilities/actions break my game so here instead" as opposed to a minor change which would be "this sounds neat, here is something that makes it not as broken".

I'm sure he added some x-shots somewhere if someone got particularly feisty with their role (Blarg) but godfather isn't exactly out there unless all the scum independently asked for that same thing.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
I'm sure he added some x-shots somewhere if someone got particularly feisty with their role (Blarg) but godfather isn't exactly out there unless all the scum independently asked for that same thing.

All this to say though, Monkey's defense of herself is bad, it would work in a normal game but in a game where you could make your own role, being scared of a cop check doesn't really fly like it normally does.

Zippedpinhead · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
Random thought I had last night when I peeked into the thread but never actually posted, have Stuart444 and empressdonna been different alignments in the same game before?

Yes Monopoly Mafia, Stu was mafia and Empressdonna was town

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Zippedpinhead said:
Yes Monopoly Mafia, Stu was mafia and Empressdonna was town

Hmm noted, might go look at a bit of that because I'm curious of their interaction. The random thought I had was the reverse and I thought that would be kind of funny.

Zippedpinhead · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
Hmm noted, might go look at a bit of that because I'm curious of their interaction. The random thought I had was the reverse and I thought that would be kind of funny.

I had to look it up myself as well, but I thought it was one of the games from 2017 or early 2018.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
I'm not worried about this happening in the slightest.

If you were mafia, you'd bake godfather into the role you were allowed to make yourself.

Please.

And yes, sure, maybe you didn't get the right type to do that but my reading of the situation is that modifiers were just kind of free game.

All modifiers were not free game because I got nerfed. But I flew too close to the sun, I think. But you're right, I might have asked to be a godfather. I dunno. It's not something I thought about.

It'll be hilarious if we have like five cops but everyone in the mafia team is a gf.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

malus said:
Geno's entrance wasn't anything I would try to analyze further. Not sure why people piled on it to be honest.

Some of y'all are making too much out of this, I think. As for Dubs, I don't know, we'll see, but as for me, the conversation was who would you shoot five hours into the game. Of course it was thin. I'm not pretending it was anything BUT thin. It's not like I'm voting for Geno or calling for his head or anything. I had a whole list of reactions to various folks.

Natiko · May 13, 2020

Fran said:
I didn't implied anything.

Also flavour is just flavour. Don't waste your time focusing on it.

Fran said:
No changing factions. Cult leader is possible but without changing aligments and only for specialists.

For what it's worth, this is what I was referring to. Not sure what a Cultist would be if not neutral lol

Sorian said:
I am the master of ultimate balance in mafia games so maybe my view is skewed but my ability was approved as I wrote it, no downgrade. Based on that and the fact that Fran said no major changes after the deadline, I don't think my experience was abnormal.

Anyone that didn't get nerfed just didn't aim high enough.

Natiko · May 13, 2020

A couple people (turm, Sorian) were quick to point out the one reasoning I thought was acceptable for not pushing Bear at this stage, but I'm still wary of the bark with little bite from that group.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
All this to say though, Monkey's defense of herself is bad, it would work in a normal game but in a game where you could make your own role, being scared of a cop check doesn't really fly like it normally does.

It wasn't a defense. What am I defending? It's a thought exercise, Stretch Armstrong.

Fran · May 13, 2020

Natiko said:
For what it's worth, this is what I was referring to. Not sure what a Cultist would be if not neutral lol

I can think a couple of things but we can talk about that when the game ends.

Natiko · May 13, 2020

Fran said:
I can think a couple of things but we can talk about that when the game ends.

Fair enough!

At this point I think the assumption should be no neutrals, which makes those couple of early posts that stuck out to me no longer a concern.

Dr. Monkey Can you run me through your muffin vote? I know you've said it's a serious one now.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Natiko said:
Fair enough!

At this point I think the assumption should be no neutrals, which makes those couple of early posts that stuck out to me no longer a concern.

Dr. Monkey Can you run me through your muffin vote? I know you've said it's a serious one now.

Muffin is an absolute blank except for a few comments. I don't like a Muffin who seems on the sidelines. Yesterday was a time issue, cool, I get it, but shifting my vote doesn't accomplish what I want, which is for him to engage, so I might hang out longer.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Okay, so here's the thing that bothered me after I logged off last night:

I posted that I had a soft scumread on Sneeks. I absolutely do not like when she comes into the thread asking questions, especially questions that aren't gonna be answered - asking donna, for instance, when donna is likely not gonna be back for hours and hours. That's a scumSneeks tell, a fake attempt at making conversation and looking active. But it was just a little, so I wasn't gonna go in on her or anything, it was just on my radar.

Later, after our brief conversation about Geno, she posted that she scumread me. Sure, okay, y'all hate my observation about Geno, I get it. This is fine. After that, Natiko rightly pointed out that Sneeks and I often scumread each other.

But after I watched her actually engage and put thoughts into the thread, I posted that I relaxed my read of her. And then suddenly she didn't scumread me either. At least, it was implied. But why? I didn't change anything about the way I was engaging with people. So what changed in her read? I didn't scumread her anymore? So it was OMGUS? Did she decide it was just meta? What happened? I have no idea. I would love to hear an explanation from her.

Here's that post I'm talking about:

Sawneeks said:
Is...is this the game we finally become friends who not try to murder each other???

Verelios · May 13, 2020

Natiko said:
RE: Royal - stood out to you in a good or bad way?

What from Saw was standing out and making you go back and forth?

In a bad way. Saying that, do you feel it should be taken in a good way?

Saw has opinions that make me go back and forth on her. Like her opinions on Dubs and Sorian seemed genuine early on, but her finger wagging afterwards for the two votes on Sorian seemed...off because it was unnecessary to me. Then I liked her response about Monkey only for her to swerve into buddy cop territory.

empressdonna said:
I.. I don't understand why you would think this. Of course, having a town leader being scum after them seeming so innocent would be a bad thing but there doesn't seem to be an obvious town leader right now?

So right now, I'm working on the thought process of 'who would I get rid of to help town?'

I understand that it might just be me that struggles and others don't but that is where my mind is at the moment.

Sorian said:
I'm not worried about this happening in the slightest.

I think about it sometimes after Pokemon Mafia. At least for endgame, I'm much less worried about eccentric posters like Blarg and Kyaa because they'll get sorted out before then.

Verelios · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
Okay, so here's the thing that bothered me after I logged off last night:

I posted that I had a soft scumread on Sneeks. I absolutely do not like when she comes into the thread asking questions, especially questions that aren't gonna be answered - asking donna, for instance, when donna is likely not gonna be back for hours and hours. That's a scumSneeks tell, a fake attempt at making conversation and looking active. But it was just a little, so I wasn't gonna go in on her or anything, it was just on my radar.

Later, after our brief conversation about Geno, she posted that she scumread me. Sure, okay, y'all hate my observation about Geno, I get it. This is fine. After that, Natiko rightly pointed out that Sneeks and I often scumread each other.

But after I watched her actually engage and put thoughts into the thread, I posted that I relaxed my read of her. And then suddenly she didn't scumread me either. At least, it was implied. But why? I didn't change anything about the way I was engaging with people. So what changed in her read? I didn't scumread her anymore? So it was OMGUS? Did she decide it was just meta? What happened? I have no idea. I would love to hear an explanation from her.

Here's that post I'm talking about:

Get out of my head Monkey!

Muffin · May 13, 2020

Aeleus said:
Do you town lean him or do you just not like Sneeks reasoning

The latter

Would take some hard info these days to town lean on Sorian

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Verelios said:
Get out of my head Monkey!

No! Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't just me. I started to get back up and post about it last night but I decided to see if anyone else said anything. You were the only person who seemed to (there was a brief reference earlier but I knew just what you meant).

Question while you're here: there are a lot of people who are just on the fringes, so many that it's kinda hard to tell who's actually holding back and who just doesn't want to wade into the mass of posts that happened during the US night. Is there anyone you specifically feel falls into the former category?

Aeleus · May 13, 2020

Muffin said:
The latter

Would take some hard info these days to town lean on Sorian

Umm, was talking about B-Dubs

Muffin · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
Muffin is an absolute blank except for a few comments. I don't like a Muffin who seems on the sidelines. Yesterday was a time issue, cool, I get it, but shifting my vote doesn't accomplish what I want, which is for him to engage, so I might hang out longer.

I didnt even realize you voted me at some point tbh.

Ah it was back with the "how evil are you" question. I engaged you didnt I, or did you expect me to show you solid proof of my towniness or something?

If it's about not being on the sidelines, anyone can tell you I'm not good at D1s. Hell, I think I had to explain the same thing last game. I post about something of substance if something sticks out to me.

Muffin · May 13, 2020

Aeleus said:
Umm, was talking about B-Dubs

Oh lol, sorry I read that wrong.

I dont scum lean on him at least. Pretty much in no lean to either side territory for me rn.

Verelios · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
No! Anyway, I'm glad it wasn't just me. I started to get back up and post about it last night but I decided to see if anyone else said anything. You were the only person who seemed to (there was a brief reference earlier but I knew just what you meant).

Question while you're here: there are a lot of people who are just on the fringes, so many that it's kinda hard to tell who's actually holding back and who just doesn't want to wade into the mass of posts that happened during the US night. Is there anyone you specifically feel falls into the former category?

I feel like the former extends to Kalor, Aeleus and the Bear.

I'm kind of hesitant to call out Aeleus because they do joke about stopping the fluff, but even the post on Donna seems iterative at the point its posted.

As for Bear, he mentions being rusty so it may be a mix of the two. It does feel like he's not putting himself out there, but it's mostly mechanics and fluff talk. It seems like he doesn't want to interact.

Kalor · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
Okay, so here's the thing that bothered me after I logged off last night:

I posted that I had a soft scumread on Sneeks. I absolutely do not like when she comes into the thread asking questions, especially questions that aren't gonna be answered - asking donna, for instance, when donna is likely not gonna be back for hours and hours. That's a scumSneeks tell, a fake attempt at making conversation and looking active. But it was just a little, so I wasn't gonna go in on her or anything, it was just on my radar

How is it suspicious to ask people questions for later that are in different timezones? That's basically half the questions I get asked in mafia and never found it weird or trying to blend in with some generic activity. Obviously it's suspicious if someone makes a habit of it and never follows up their questions but I don't see the issue in this game.

empressdonna · May 13, 2020

Before I go to make dinner, I will say I feel really comfortable with Monkey's posts so far.

I'd like to see more posts from Kyanrute even though he is on my panic list, I know he commented on me above but I mean just in general where his thoughts lie.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Kalor said:
How is it suspicious to ask people questions for later that are in different timezones? That's basically half the questions I get asked in mafia and never found it weird or trying to blend in with some generic activity. Obviously it's suspicious if someone makes a habit of it and never follows up their questions but I don't see the issue in this game.

Normally I think it is not. It is however something scumSneeks does to look busy. It's a pattern across her scum games. Not just asking across timezones (obviously you're right, that's gonna happen) but just asking questions a lot in general and offering summary instead of thought. It's why she's mad at me for getting D1ed in... whatever game that was.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

General things before I go do some work (try to, anyway) (some in response to Vere, some to Muffin):

Muffin, everyone says they are bad at d1, but you will always live in my pool of potential terror, so you just have to live with your past choices. :P If I feel like moving my vote, I will.

Someday Aeleus is gonna be scum and I will just never see it, because A always comes off as hella town to me.

Vere, I agree 100% on Bear but I'm hesitant to vote there for all the reasons that have been given. I don't really want to D1 him in general for out-of-game reasons but so far he's probably got the weirdest and least engaged play of anyone so far. I'm gonna give him the benefit of the doubt re: rustiness for now.

I can never accurately read Kalor. I don't know why. It's been a source of frustration for years. But I feel like hanging around on the fringes is not outside of his wheelhouse because he rarely gets heated or in the middle of anything big so I'm a big question mark there.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

I know I've done good when I come back to 5 notifications lol

Natiko said:
For what it's worth, this is what I was referring to. Not sure what a Cultist would be if not neutral lol

Anyone that didn't get nerfed just didn't aim high enough.

I aimed true not high.

Dr. Monkey said:
It wasn't a defense. What am I defending? It's a thought exercise, Stretch Armstrong.

You said you wouldn't do a thing because it would draw attention to you. Thought exercise or not, the point is clear.

Natiko said:
Fair enough!

At this point I think the assumption should be no neutrals, which makes those couple of early posts that stuck out to me no longer a concern.

Dr. Monkey Can you run me through your muffin vote? I know you've said it's a serious one now.

I tuned into this conversation halfway through but why would we assume no neutrals? Like sure, someone couldn't bake an alignment change into their request but there's nothing stopping Fran from telling someone up front they were a neutral.

I started posting this like a half hour ago then got called away for work, let's see what I missed.

Sorian · May 13, 2020

I didn't miss much, I'll be back at lunch.

Dr. Monkey · May 13, 2020

Sorian said:
You said you wouldn't do a thing because it would draw attention to you.

No, that's not what I said. I said I'd be in favor of killing people because fewer people = fewer chances I, as scum, would be outed. I granted I would already have attention, because that is my reality in this community.

The Bear · May 13, 2020

I've been doing other stuff today (Real life is really not compatible with mafia even during quarantine), looking at previous pages properly now.

The Bear · May 13, 2020

First pages are mostly just noise.

B-Dubs said:
Well, I'm not Monkey, but I'm looking at these two posts:

and I'm wondering what is going on here. The first post is a bit cryptic, Geno made a few comments about how great their power was then when called out made that first quoted post. Looking at their posts since game start, there's not really much engagement.

Then there's the second post, which is just confusing. Apparently there's a chat? It's either scum, lovers, or some kind of investigative role. I doubt there's a set of lovers, given we all made up our own powers, so that's out. From there it's scum or the kind of cop that can make a chat with another player (which is something that has happened in a few games I've played in). I doubt it was a gigantic slip, but, in all honesty, I think there's something to take a look at there.

I can only assume Geno was trying to make jokes. Like a lot of the early posts in this game have been.

Natiko · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
Muffin is an absolute blank except for a few comments. I don't like a Muffin who seems on the sidelines. Yesterday was a time issue, cool, I get it, but shifting my vote doesn't accomplish what I want, which is for him to engage, so I might hang out longer.

Honestly it feels like half the players are on the sidelines so far. We're almost halfway through the day and I probably couldn't tell you a single conversation of note from a good chunk of players.

Sorian said:
I know I've done good when I come back to 5 notifications lol

I aimed true not high.

You said you wouldn't do a thing because it would draw attention to you. Thought exercise or not, the point is clear.

I tuned into this conversation halfway through but why would we assume no neutrals? Like sure, someone couldn't bake an alignment change into their request but there's nothing stopping Fran from telling someone up front they were a neutral.

I started posting this like a half hour ago then got called away for work, let's see what I missed.

Weak, you gotta aim high and hope Fran makes a mistake. I guess your point is fair RE: a neutral, probably read too far into his comments.

Verelios said:
In a bad way. Saying that, do you feel it should be taken in a good way?

Saw has opinions that make me go back and forth on her. Like her opinions on Dubs and Sorian seemed genuine early on, but her finger wagging afterwards for the two votes on Sorian seemed...off because it was unnecessary to me. Then I liked her response about Monkey only for her to swerve into buddy cop territory.

I think about it sometimes after Pokemon Mafia. At least for endgame, I'm much less worried about eccentric posters like Blarg and Kyaa because they'll get sorted out before then.

Hmm, I would say personally it at worst doesn't strike me as a negative. With the ability to craft a role, it's entirely possible that Royal just is more comfortable than usual. Generally speaking I'd view someone being comfortable as more likely to be town than not on average.

Also, now that you've explained some of your reasoning I'm feeling better than I previously was.

There's a few people hanging on the sidelines more than I would generally expect from them. People need to jump in.

VOTE: Stu

Stuart444 You've been pretty low key so far, really only lightly talking to Geno and Vere. Share some thoughts.

Stuart444 · May 13, 2020

Natiko said:
@Stuart444 You've been pretty low key so far, really only lightly talking to Geno and Vere. Share some thoughts.

Sorry, been a real crappy day.

Honestly I don't have much in the way of thoughts. I'm suspicious of Geno for some posts from earlier during my little talk with them and Vere really made me raise an eyebrow at that town circle comment.

I want to see more from Dubs, just cause I don't have much of an opinion on them yet. Same with Kyan.

That's all I have without looking back in depth anyway lol

Sorian · May 13, 2020

Dr. Monkey said:
No, that's not what I said. I said I'd be in favor of killing people because fewer people = fewer chances I, as scum, would be outed. I granted I would already have attention, because that is my reality in this community.

I was about to give a "nuh uh, you did say it" then I went back and I remembered part of what annoyed me was Blarg didn;t actually say anything that made sense to you. So point to you, I still started mess though because I don't really like your assertion that you wouldn't do X just because of a potential scan.

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