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Graphic Fidelity I Expect Next Gen.
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Looking damn good! I think this game is in a very similar position to The Witcher 2 last gen. A bit too good graphically for current gen, but will be surprassed by a few games in the launch window for next gen. Well the difference will be what the next gen patch brings I suppose. But the world looks superbly realised. Very hyped for this.
Which next-gen launch window game will surpass Cyberpunk 2077 in terms of graphics, scope and overall polish? Serious question. Obviously, taking into account the game's updated next gen version.
I expect something like this in TLOU 2 or similar to the best parts of FF7 Remake.
The fun part is that we have both games already.
Just add 60 fps to this quality and next gen is a dream come true.
The fun part is that we have both games already.
Just add 60 fps to this quality and next gen is a dream come true.
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Depends on what metric I suppose? Character models? Well there are already games with more impressive character models, but this game has a lot of models going on. Asset quality, modelling and density? I think what was shown in the Horizon 2 trailer was a bit better in that regard, particularly in the latter. LoD also is a bit lacking, and hopefully will be improved in the next gen patch. Lighting so far is excellent, but I think the materials still look a bit plasticy. Some of the ways light interacts with materials reminds me of Doom 3 for some reason. I am nitpicking, because I think the game looks awesome and can hang with what has been shown. I mean, the same could be said about Witcher 2 on PC last gen, even though I think it was bettered in many ways fairly early on last gen.
None of us have seen the next gen version, nor do we know enough about the launch window games.
I'm pretty sure what's been show so far is a pretty good indication of the next gen version.
Since i dont know the launch dates or scale ill just list the PS5 games that looked better to my eyes.
HZD 2
Spiderman 2
R&C
Project Athia
Pragmata
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I cant tell if the second picture is real or not ... Looking at it for longer it looks rendered, but that's insane ... Second pic looks photorealistic.
Having finished Seattle Day 1 I'm still pretty confident in saying that TLOU2 isn't even close to next gen. It is up there in the best this gen has to offer but it's not next gen in basically anything.
And blurring shots with DOF is the cheapest of tricks - you destroy the actual frame details and let your imagination run wild as to what these details are.
I mean if we want to consider what we have seen that looks next gen across all games, I would say it would be:
- Nanite and Lumen in UE5
- ray tracing in stuff like Control and Cyberpunk
- World transitions in R&C
Can you please post videos and/or pictures from Modern Warfare that show off what you're talking about. I've looked at some YouTube videos and I'm not seeing anything special.
Agreed, since it was designed squarely with current gen in mind. That doesn't mean it won't hold up to some next gen games, but that is a different issue. FFXIII for instance still looks better graphically than most current gen JRPGs
I'd pay $100 for a game no problem if my perceived value was there. Last of US Part 2 for example..If the game was $99.99 I would still have bought it on launch.
Watched on my phone earlier. Watching on my 4K tv now, and apart from the framerate differences TLOU2 looks so much better, gameplay as well as cutscene before the gameplay graphics. TLOU2 is on another level, but sure it is 30fps, but we all know it will be 60fps in the eventual PS5 patch or remaster. This just looks like a regular PC fps with decent graphics but still looks like a game. So many moment sin TLOU2, custscene and gameplay wise look way better to me. Honestly.
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This is pretty much were I'm at. Still need to play more of the game when I get time.
a few more from the PS show like Pragmata, probably Spidey, Demon Souls etc.
From the older Xbox show there are quite a few more that we know of as well, I think they actually put out an official list on that front.
Happy to pay $200 for the right game. TLOU or GTA6? No question. Same for Street Fighter 6 or the next God of War, or Cyperpunk 2077, etc. etc. Some games just deserve triple digit $$$ because of the insane value they bring. And I have mad love for those californian/polish/scottish/japanese geniuses.
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CP77 looks great but I don't really understand why people are saying PC gamers will need 2080Ti's to get 60fps even at 720p (1080p DLSS).
Out side of the amount of neon signs on the street sections it's a bit of a letdown tbh. The streets are absolutely empty and the bars and clubs have people but groups of two or three. It's a far cry away from the first gameplay where we saw more NPC's on screen than in AC Unity.
It has absolutely horrendous pop in too when driving.
It will be really interesting to see how the game differs from Xbox One to the PC version to the next gen console versions.
I hope the game really drops jaws when it arrives.
It's interesting people are saying TLOU II will be blown away visually by next gen games because it's a PS4 game and it's all art yet CP77 won't be even though it will run on an XB1?
There are very few better artists than ND and Rockstar's artists and they also had long development cycles with almost unlimited budgets so I don't think RDR II and TLOU Il will be blown away by early next gen launch games imo.
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I've read people thinking you'll need a 2080Ti for 1080/60 even without RT lol... Very strange.
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For well funded AAA open world games aiming for a realistic aesthetic, I hope the character fidelity and animation (esp. nuances) matches this:
Fidelity-wise it close in the broader context but details-wise that is on a different level (hair, NPC texture detail, lack of notable clipping etc). And so is the character, esp. facial animation (very impressive if its almost entirely data driven instead of mo-cap, which is very likely given the enormous amount of dialogue in the game).
I'd just like characters in general in the open World. The city looks EMPTY...
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PS5 and Xbox Series X will achieve dream of ‘movie-quality graphics’, says Epic | VGC
CTO discusses UE5’s Nanite technology…
www.videogameschronicle.com
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That amazing UE5 tech demo was only as GPU-intensive as Fortnite
And this is seriously good news for the future of gaming performance
www.pcgamesn.com
Those shots for the thumbnail are normal photographs.
if you guys want to see something impressive, all rendered in UE4
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You might get a game with this, but don't count on many games pulling this off.
A. these things are very dependent on pipeline and artist ability, not all studios are made equal.
This guy has incredible experience working with photogrammetry assets, something even naughty dog isn't doing.
B. Getting this kind of fidelity up is incredibly expensive. even working with packs like quixel, those packs simply don't cover the amount needed for a full game.
C. All of this might run real time, but this is without any game code at all. Adding things like AI, physics, game logic, etc. kills performance drastically
Combine this with these demos being very large in size, which is why a lot of these cool movies of guys making cool scenes in UE4 is something that is possible real time, but you wont see for a while in an actual full game
also what you see there is rendered in engine in UE4, but there is no info to what the frame rate this runs realtime and at what resolution, so that is on PC with a beefy card most likely, and is as I said before without any game code stealing performance underneath. and no the video is not representative to real time, its a trailer made in the UE4 sequence editor and exported via the High Quality Media Export which then renders either frames or full video at whatever setting you like in high quality.
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Thank you for injecting more data for context. Personally, I see that as PS6/XSX2 fidelity (if we still have console generations by then) allied to more widespread use of RT features- And truth be told, even then, it may be rarer than what most people expect given your point, B. Unless developers and/or engine creators find a way to reduce time and cost of implementing these assets with personal touches, en masse, then I really do not see it being the norm.
That said, cost and performance saving innovations have been conceived and implemented over the lifespan of current generation that were foreseen by the general gaming public. Suffice it to say, we may very well see more of it in the next 7 years.
I fear his point "D" will be the main obstacle, even for the second half of the decade. There's no tech on the horizon as far as I'm aware which will alleviate that.
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I think that budget will be the biggest issue. According to epic the UE5 demo only uses the same amount of GPU timing as Fortnite on consoles at 60 fps.....Let that sink in...
What he said was the geometry rendering specifically takes as much time on PS5 as the geometry rendering in Fortnite took on PS4.
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That amazing UE5 tech demo was only as GPU-intensive as Fortnite
And this is seriously good news for the future of gaming performance
www.pcgamesn.com
He says what i posted in the first paragraph.That amazing UE5 tech demo was only as GPU-intensive as Fortnite
And this is seriously good news for the future of gaming performance