The fact that a game has to scale from XBO to XSX doesn't mean that it can't look next gen - it just means that you need to spend A LOT of resources on implementing such scaling in a way which would provide tangible visual (and otherwise) benefits for both ends of the performance target.
That is very true. MS certainly has the resources to develop a full next gen version.
It says nothing as we know nothing about Chorus' frame budget or RT implementation.
Yes but that doesn't matter because the fact that Raytracing runs at 4K60 AT ALL, regardless of implementation is telling of XSX RT performance, it certainly gives us an indication. And if you look at Chorus it looks extremly detailed visually.
Or it can be telling of how meagre the RT implementation could be in the game. Nor does 4K60 means it never dips. It also doesn't tell anything about the framebuffer setup of the game.
It atleast has reflections and if you look at Wolfenstein and Control,you know how expensive they can be.
Extremely detailed? Gameplay sections look just ok, kinda worse then Elite Dangerous.
Thats a cutscene, you do not even know if it runs in 60fps.It atleast has reflections and if you look at Wolfenstein and Control,you know how expensive they can be.
They look very similar to the ones in Control imo.
This is very impressive, extremly impressive. RT at 4K60 with a console.... I can't contain my excitement!
That doesn't say anything. You can't tell if that's RT reflection or not just by looking at that.It atleast has reflections and if you look at Wolfenstein and Control,you know how expensive they can be.
They look very similar to the ones in Control imo.
This is very impressive, extremly impressive. RT at 4K60 with a console.... I can't contain my excitement!
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Chorus, a New Space Combat Shooter, is Coming to Xbox Series X in 2021 - Xbox Wire
Today, on Inside Xbox, Deep Silver Fishlabs exclusively revealed our brand-new title, Chorus, releasing in 2021 on Xbox Series X and Xbox One with Smart Delivery for all players. This means that you will only need to buy the game once to play on both Xbox Series X and Xbox One. Chorus will look...
And it's 60 FPS, you can look at the trailer:
It is 60 FPS and looks amazing much better than Elite even in the space flight sections.
Again, it's impressive no matter how you spin it. It doesn't matter what RT implementation it is. The RT looks extremly good and runs at 4K60. Something Turing has never been able to achieve before, without ML reconstruction. Yes, it's not a 1 to 1 comparison in regards to performance, but it gives us an rough idea of the rt capabilities.
Yep! It clearly states ray traced environments all at 4K60!
No it's not you, i think the same.
Not for everything, rdr2 with euphoria engine has still the edge in some occasion.
For sure Rockstar has better physics, it's essential for a sandbox game. RDR2 looks incredible, but still not like what we've seen from TLOU2 (mainly characters and hand made animation).
Yes it all would be impressive because it runs at 4K60. But look at the RT reflections shown in the trailer, the resolution is high enough and from what I can observe, they are very similar to Control in quality.
Euphoria is less prebaked than hand crafted animation.
Oh yeah, facial animation are best in business on tlou2, eye movement and micro movement for the lips are absolutely on a different level compared to anyone.
It atleast has reflections and if you look at Wolfenstein and Control,you know how expensive they can be.
They look very similar to the ones in Control imo.
This is very impressive, extremly impressive. RT at 4K60 with a console.... I can't contain my excitement!
It atleast has reflections and if you look at Wolfenstein and Control,you know how expensive they can be.
They look very similar to the ones in Control imo.
This is very impressive, extremly impressive. RT at 4K60 with a console.... I can't contain my excitement!
Terrible? Why do you think it looks terrible? I think it looks gorgeous. That screenshot looks very similar to Control imo.
Chorus, a New Space Combat Shooter, is Coming to Xbox Series X in 2021 - Xbox Wire
Today, on Inside Xbox, Deep Silver Fishlabs exclusively revealed our brand-new title, Chorus, releasing in 2021 on Xbox Series X and Xbox One with Smart Delivery for all players. This means that you will only need to buy the game once to play on both Xbox Series X and Xbox One. Chorus will look...
And it's 60 FPS, you can look at the trailer:
It is 60 FPS and looks amazing much better than Elite even in the space flight sections.
I have played enough Control to know that these are finest RT reflections, and if you don't believe me then we will see very soon with more footage of the game, showing objects get reflected outside of screen space. Again, it's impressive no matter how you spin it. It doesn't matter what RT implementation it is. The RT looks extremly good and runs at 4K60. Something Turing has never been able to achieve before, without ML reconstruction. Yes, it's not a 1 to 1 comparison in regards to performance, but it gives us an rough idea of the rt capabilities.
It's not that. It's rather easy to tell when you are actually playing it, not easy to tell in screenshots or even videos where you don't have control of the camera, because SSR breaks in motion in ways RT reflections don't.
Oh yes you are right, I missed that part. Hm, then it really doesn't make sense.
Yes I'm aware of planar reflections but they are not used widespreadly, aren't they? Usually games only use SSR. Gears Tactic uses planar reflections with SSR as a more recent example afaik. It's not a 100% safe confirmation but it atleast it's a very reliable indication.
I had the same thought.
Thats not how the light would behave if it was from behind the camera. Its completely implausible and makes the platform look almost super imposed into the scene via some photo editing.
Devs using rt will be less about how much better a game looks and more about what it can enable a dev/artist to do. As long as they can hit their performance target, they won't care much about immediately looking better than last gen.
Resolution of RT reflections is extremely easy to change in UE4, it doesn't have to be anywhere near 4k. (Or even half res.)
Surprisingly it still would be better in many cases than just using SSR. :D
You're overselling it, pal.This.. the fun part is that we are getting an early test of next gen in 1 month.
Why is this crazy? Many DXR/RTX titles on PC can hit 4K/60 with lower RT settings on a 2080 - which is a rough equivalent to next gen consoles in general performance.
Additionally, I feel RT reflections won't really do much in a purely space combat game. RT shadows would make a lot more difference there than RT reflections.
Depends on how they are thinking of using them. RT reflections of surroundings on your space fighter cockpit windows could be interesting, for gameplay considerations too (say, it would allow you to actually see a reflection of an explosion which happened out of your current field of view) - if just a bit distracting.
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