Man crossgen should die
I'm more impressed by TLOU2 , Ghost and RDR2 than anything they have shown today lol
I'm more impressed by TLOU2 , Ghost and RDR2 than anything they have shown today lol
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Graphic Fidelity I Expect Next Gen.
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I agree. They should've just waited until they had Xbox series exclusives to show or even next gen exclusives
To be fair, the stream quality was garbage. I'm going to withhold judgment until I see the HD versions.
In terms of gfx yeah but animation is another matter all together .
When marketing a stream as being for your next-gen console, it'd be worth showing at least something that only next-gen can do. Little here was even that impressive for current gen, let alone cross gen. AC looked good for cross-gen but was only an in-engine trailer as opposed to the gameplay they promised.
And when you plaster "XSX" all over your stream a lot of the less technically versed or less reasonable people will be genuinely underwhelmed by the concept of next gen.
This should've been marketed as a general Xbox stream, not a first look at next gen.
The best part of the stream was Aaron Greenberg's fridge.
And when you plaster "XSX" all over your stream a lot of the less technically versed or less reasonable people will be genuinely underwhelmed by the concept of next gen.
This should've been marketed as a general Xbox stream, not a first look at next gen.
The best part of the stream was Aaron Greenberg's fridge.
That Quixel Rebirth demo was made using a single GTX 1080Ti at 60fps, next gen games can absolutely achievable a graphical fidelity equivalent to this tech demo.
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That's the problem, though. It's kind of unreasonable to expect third parties to have those in the first year, and Microsoft is refusing to fill that gap.
This is why Sony has a huge marketing opening. Their first-party stuff will almost surely just look better and more advanced than Microsoft's given their focus on PS5.
What a nuanced opinion completely forgetting that you are comparing AAA games with budget as high as skyscrapers to mostly indie and AA games.
At what resolution though? If it's 1080p then next gen games won't be able to look like that because devs won't target 1080p but 4k. If the demo is indeed 1080p you'd need about two 1080tis for 4k 30fps and no single GPU is even close to that. Even a 2080Ti is only like 40% faster than a 1080ti.That Quixel Rebirth demo was made using a single GTX 1080Ti at 60fps, next gen games can absolutely achievable a graphical fidelity equivalent to this tech demo.
Quixel's next-gen photorealistic Rebirth tech demo was running on an NVIDIA GTX1080Ti with 60fps
Last week, we shared a tech demo from Quixel showing next-gen photorealistic graphics in Unreal Engine 4. Quixel used its Megascans photogrammetry tech in order to create something truly astounding and what’s interesting here is that this tech demo can run with 60fps on existing hardware. As...
But I don't think that was his main point but rather that even if next gen could achieve those graphics you won't see games with this graphical fidelity because it would be way too costly to make a full game like that.
Most people believe that better hardware allows devs to reach that level of graphic fidelity easier. It does to a point but it doen`t make miracles. This gen devs were far more limited by time and budget than hardware. Next gen this gap will beome even wider.
I agree there are very few studios with animators as good as ND. It will be interesting to see if they have a significant staff turnover after TLOU II due to the normal post project moves and because of the other issues around them that have arisen lately.
I just played some Remnants of the Ashes on the PC and fuck me. Makes the console version even on ps4Pro looks shit.
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The FPS game looked very impressive as did the Starfox like spaceship game.
I might be wrong but most of what was shown today was cross gen or from tiny studios in comparison to AAA studios.
I might be wrong but most of what was shown today was cross gen or from tiny studios in comparison to AAA studios.
This! We've hit a wall in fidelity and that totally fine. Of course it's gonna get a jump this gen but if i look at the TLOU2 trailer, i'm like "it's fine if this is the bar. Try to match that on lower budgets". I hope the focus for nextgen is shifting more to physics development and reactivity, rather than "moar graphics plz"
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This looks nothing like the UE4 tech demo I posted.
You have little idea how much performance hit a full game puts out on that. add all those systems, AI, UI, music etc to this and suddenly it doesnt run that smooth on a 1080TI anymore.That Quixel Rebirth demo was made using a single GTX 1080Ti at 60fps, next gen games can absolutely achievable a graphical fidelity equivalent to this tech demo.
Quixel's next-gen photorealistic Rebirth tech demo was running on an NVIDIA GTX1080Ti with 60fps
Last week, we shared a tech demo from Quixel showing next-gen photorealistic graphics in Unreal Engine 4. Quixel used its Megascans photogrammetry tech in order to create something truly astounding and what’s interesting here is that this tech demo can run with 60fps on existing hardware. As...
Shocking. Prepare for this to be the norm for a loooooong time.
Both Quantum Break and Control did this already, but it will be more prevalent next-gen for sure.
Kinda interesting that Polish studio is making "new" Silent Hill :)
We haven't see how it runs on a base ps4 yet so that is still to be seen.
the one by Koola? yea I can see it.
also, it's available on steam for $10. infinite will be a free update
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Exactly, I don't really like "cross gen" I don't have a RTX 2080 or want PS5 or Xbox Series X for cross gen games. People have to let old consoles go, but I do understand it as business to not alienate current Xbox owners.
ill meet you on the cutscenes, but the gameplay parts definitely look current gen
even before the xbox thing last night, my expectation was this current gen on massive steroids. not close to 2d to 3d leap. not close to psx to dreamcast. but solid all round, with some spectacular visuals when budget allows.
i stand by that. im going high end pc and ps5 and i expect next gen games for about 3 years to be like current high/enthusiast pc visuals. after that we will probably see some bigger leaps, but thats also when devs will start targeting 30fps for those said leaps.
i stand by that. im going high end pc and ps5 and i expect next gen games for about 3 years to be like current high/enthusiast pc visuals. after that we will probably see some bigger leaps, but thats also when devs will start targeting 30fps for those said leaps.
This one is interesting if it's confirmed next gen exclusive. It seems to be designed around strong light sources so it smells like RT really. The first part is clearly cgi that said, and the actual gameplay seems lower budget but it could work well with RT.
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Nothing in anything shown today by MS has lead me to believe that RT is used in any of these titles. I do wonder if some of them being XSX exclusive is just because the devs behind them don't really have the resources to optimize these titles to run at 30 fps on XBO.
But this, so far, is pretty close to what I'm expecting from the first wave of next gen releases. What surprises me though is that MS hasn't shown anything at all from their 1st party lineup. Even one truly next gen highlight would make this event a lot better I'd say.
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Its gonna be a big leap, We have seen 3rd party cross gen games and few exclusives that are on PC (targeting the average PC). we are going from 1.XX teraflops to 12 RDNA2, Devs have to catch up in utilizing and budget has to allow it. wait for PS5 and Xbox Series X 1st party reveals, you will be blown away. AAA games will show a level of detail you've never seen quote me on it. Compare Killzone 3 to Killzone Shadowfall.
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Oh dude, im aware on paper how much of a leap we are getting
im just convinced that DR is hitting more and more each gen. We are throwing huge amounts of raw power at next gen but the returns are much less than we have gotten previous gen. Every gen past, the power gaps are bigger, but the returns are smaller.
A lot of people disagree but im pretty confident on this personally.
Regardless im EXTREMELY excited-lost job due to covid so all of this tech news and new games etc is uplifting for me right now :)
I kinda want to make a thread about trying to analyze footage from today to see what new tech could be found in it, but i won't probably :p Let's wait for Digital Foundry to do it lol.
About RT, i can tell you, in the Dirt 5 trailer, in the first part with the frozen lake, i paused and the reflexion is more than screen space, as it shows a different perspective for some objects. But RT in this game seems completely contradictory with the high framerate focus.
Yeah, I've looked at this one as well. Doesn't seem to be using RT either for now - some non-SSR reflections may be done through SDFs and voxels. But the game seem to be in AMD's partner program so it won't surprise me if they'll actually add RT to it, if only on PC in the end.
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Chorus looks good graphically and I think it will be 4k60 with RT with Dynamic Physics and very high LOD
Yup.
There is quite bit of work involved in getting RT to work properly with all scene elements, so adding it to game or engine during ongoing development might be a bit too much to ask.
Blending objects/materials, transparency, fog volumes, any screen space FX etc.
MS said every first party game has to run on the Xbox One, so we should not expect next gen graphics from those. If anything it was at this event where we could have been seen next gen graphics because 3rd party developers are free to do whatever they want.
Have we got any comparisons between high quality SSR and RT in the same game?
I appreciate one will be accurate, but wondering if there is a wow factor to boot?
I appreciate one will be accurate, but wondering if there is a wow factor to boot?
This was crossgen games and indie games. They will not set a benchmark for next generation graphics.