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Me too.
These are next generation quality assets.
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Graphic Fidelity I Expect Next Gen.
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These are next generation quality assets.
You asking him compare a PS3 game to a top end current gen that came out at the tail end of this gen. When he's talking about PC ver of late gen games being a good bar for the type of visuals you can expect on average on console next gen as they fall just short. That's always been the case and will remain the case even going forward.
I'll give you an example, Crysis 3. Made for PS360 and chugged like hell on those consoles. It was quite possibly the most technically advanced title on those consoles technically speaking. But the PC ver was clearly a step or two above, enough so that even today when you play Crysis 3 on PC it looks like a game that can easily fit in the upper half of the current gen games visually speaking.
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But in the end it shows the difference between hardware power... does it not?
I think all of this is attainable. Those house UE4 demos run at 4K even on my computer with greatly inferior specs then these consoles have. Not every game will look this good and probably no launch titles will.
I honestly think these videos are playing it safe in regards to what will be possible.
Nobody imagined something like Death Stranding or Red Dead Redemption would be possible this gen and here we are.
Also Ninja Theory's early game samples already look amazing.
It may take awhile to see lots of games with this asset quality but yes the systems will be capable of such with limited raytracing functionality as well.
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Yeah you have a point about not targeting a lower end SKU at all, which Control does.
Star Citizen is a bit that way, but it's a bit different. It's like comparing a new MMO to a console game. It's a bit of an odd ball and not really representative of anything other than games like it.
I dunno about that, Watch Dogs & Witcher pre downgrade set up for some mighty disappointment, but RDR2 got close, DS i think is overrated visually but it's not bad.
This gen i think devs will be more careful about show casing games on $3000 PC's at E3, well there is not even an E3 this year so good start i suppose.
Well yeah current gen games won't match the expectations people have for next gen experiences but I do think top shelf developers will deliver games that match or even surpass the UE4 and Unity tech demos of today.
It's quite exciting but this quality increase will take time. I think the next few months will be really exciting as we will hopefully finally get to see some next gen experiences.
I could see this being somewhat possible if they have pre-rendered backgrounds with fixed camera angles (ps1 resident evil era style) and allocating all the other resources to the characters.
We see a glimpse of that in Star Citizen which is a massive multiplayer open world game. I can see something like the above in a smaller Resident Evil type game.
I could see this being somewhat possible if they have pre-rendered backgrounds with fixed camera angles (ps1 resident evil era style) and allocating all the other resources to the characters.
Im still waiting for Watch Dogs 2012 E3 to come to fruition, specifically this part until the gas station blows up.
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[E3 2012] Watch Dogs - E3 Gameplay Demo
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This in 4K60FPS with full RT this is next gen.
Are these from Rare's new game?
I will say Modern Warfare saved this generation in regards to realism. No shooter got this close... Hoping for next level from here
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Call of Duty Modern Warfare - Clean House - REALISM MODE HIGHEST SETTINGS LIMITED HUD
Call of Duty Modern Warfare Campaign mission Clean House on Realism Mode with the highest graphic settings at 1080p. Very intense mission, and one of my favo...
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Lol. But I think next gen will blow this away.Im still waiting for Watch Dogs 2012 E3 to come to fruition, specifically this part until the gas station blows up.
[E3 2012] Watch Dogs - E3 Gameplay Demo
The gameplay demo of Watch Dogs from Ubisofts conference
Death Stranding is overrated? What games look better on PS4? That's visual showcase.
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Im still waiting for Watch Dogs 2012 E3 to come to fruition, specifically this part until the gas station blows up.
[E3 2012] Watch Dogs - E3 Gameplay Demo
The gameplay demo of Watch Dogs from Ubisofts conference
Went back and watched this on my TV the other day, I honestly don't find it all that impressive anymore, other than the aforementioned explosion,
Good. Quote my last post if your jaw isn't on the floor when you see at least the PS5 exclusives for the first time.
I'll personally apologise 😝
So... here's a resampling of what I 'hope' gameplay fidelity gets substantially close to, in motion whilst not pixel peeping:
Danke! Yea, that part kind of stuck out in my mind but still spent around half an hour looking for it other people's Let's Plays.
Insofar as the visuals are concerned, that episode blew my mind more than any, ANY other episodes. I thought that this was post-fx animation-fication of a live action project. Oh boy, was I wrong. So very wrong.
Danke! Yea, that part kind of stuck out in my mind but still spent around half an hour looking for it other people's Let's Plays.
Insofar as the visuals are concerned, that episode blew my mind more than any, ANY other episodes. I thought that this was post-fx animation-fication of a live action project. Oh boy, was I wrong. So very wrong.
And what about Battlefield One and Battlefield V On PS4? Both are leagues ahead of BF4 on PC.
I, uhm, what???
Why are you arbitrarily stopping in the middle of the generation? Battlefront 2, Battlefield 5 und Modern Warfare look a lot better than their predecessors.
Control doesn't even have impressive characters. Resident Evil 3 looks better in many cases barring the ray tracing.
Late gen PC games on ultra have never been a good indicator of next gen visuals. Next gen introduces new ways of making games that aren't employed now.
Or do you really think remedy won't be able to topple their own game with an insanely higher baseline.
In case you are talking strictly about early gen games. Yeah maybe. But I don't think so. Last gen upgrades were quite underwhelming to the point where Ubisoft and friends misinterpreted what they were getting and made a game asking for the wrong things from PS4 and XO. This gen devs are getting things they didn't even dream of. Remember Cerny said in an interview that some devs where quite bullish when asking about an SSD, they were probably asking for a bog standard sata SSD. Now they are getting at least 2.4gb/s. Then hardware raytracing then desktop CPUs. This is a paradigm shift unlike any other generation. Making games gets easier while the power budget explodes beyond belief. There also the insane middleware market. I am positive that this time, day one games will be mind boggling. I am sure many sceptics will be surprised.
I don't expect CGI level of visuals from the get go. That will happen later, I'm sure. But the beginning alone will be super cool.
DF should probably get some interns for all the Analysis they will be doing.
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Hes not even stopping at the middle, hes stopping at the beginning and purposefully choosing games that werent even using renderers properly tailored to next gen. But i guess thats the only way to frame such a ridiculous argument.
Since you are a senior concept artist. Can you share some insight in what you think will make the biggest jump next gen in terms of visuals? Textures, geometry, lighting?
I'm convinced that half of what makes games look good is the camera. I almost feel like a lot of these high fidelity examples could be accomplished with a more fixed camera and better "movie direction" during cut scenes.
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This.I will say Modern Warfare saved this generation in regards to realism. No shooter got this close... Hoping for next level from here
Call of Duty Modern Warfare - Clean House - REALISM MODE HIGHEST SETTINGS LIMITED HUD
Call of Duty Modern Warfare Campaign mission Clean House on Realism Mode with the highest graphic settings at 1080p. Very intense mission, and one of my favo...
Now, we all talking about SSD and big, detailed worlds with high quality assets but...
The upgrade industry needs today the most is physics.
Hair. Fluids. Smoke. Wind.
The upgrade industry needs today the most is physics.
Hair. Fluids. Smoke. Wind.
Wow, great job that's basically the same exact spot.
That makes for a very interesting comparison, though when i said they might get somewhat close i meant during cutscenes rather than actual gameplay obv.
I could see this being somewhat possible if they have pre-rendered backgrounds with fixed camera angles (ps1 resident evil era style) and allocating all the other resources to the characters.
Was the "in-depth making of" this episode ever released ? I remember the director promising he would show us the workflow behind this because people kept saying it was real life footage with CG on top rather than full CG as they kept saying.
And to be honest, i still think this to be the case.
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God damn! That bread ripping was mighty impressive. Not sure if we will see this level of physics but one can hope. What I am especially fascinated by are improved weather effects. Imagine real time clouds that can suddenly transform into a tornado or what not.
But I really hope we will be able to also enjoy much more refined animations.
Warner Games/WB Montreal/Rocksteady should just make a Blade Runner game..
The atmosphere and world of both the OG and 2049 are perfect for gaming. And with the CPUs and SSDs, it could finally be done justice.
Guess the game...
From memory of having played the game last year, I, unfortunately, do not recall a cutscene featuring a similar segment. IIRC, that portion itself was a concept reel when the team were still pondering whether to go the Norse or Egyptian route.
From memory of having played the game last year, I, unfortunately, do not recall a cutscene featuring a similar segment. IIRC, that portion itself was a concept reel when the team were still pondering whether to go the Norse or Egyptian route.
There's a 1 minute behind the scenes sizzle thing on youtube. There's also this interview. It's an incredible looking short but I'm a bit perplexed at why people think there's real life footage. CG has perfected inanimate objects, landscapes and cityscapes for a long time, there being no mocap involved in the animation is the much more impressive feat considering how lifelike the movements were.
Look at Zodiac from 2007. Pretty much every outdoor scene is entirely cg. I follow a lot of the visdev/concept artists that work with Alberto Mielgo on Spiderverse and The Witness, they all backup the claim.
Another look of what was/is possible on under 3 years shy of a decade closed spec boxes:
Truthfully, I am still amazed that that was created in Dreams™
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Deeper into the forest.
Truthfully, I am still amazed that that was created in Dreams™
Another look of what was/is possible on under 3 years shy of a decade closed spec boxes:
Truthfully, I am still amazed that that was created in Dreams™
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Such a beautiful game:
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That looks beautiful! Thank you!
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That looks beautiful! Thank you!
So, err, is this the Next-gen console tech thread now? :P
On a serious note - has anyone got any links to GDC chats or similar where devs have covered 'rewind' functions and their effects on performance?
On a serious note - has anyone got any links to GDC chats or similar where devs have covered 'rewind' functions and their effects on performance?
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No we are exploring the graphics quality next gen, which includes tech to achieve that :):)
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This is relevant how? I do agree some of the quality bad for some gifs but?