Similar? They are not even in the same world. You have no idea how much computation goes into those particle effects and simulations.
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Graphic Fidelity I Expect Next Gen.
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DMC 5, about skin shading and muscles, just look at the nose and how the skin is wrinkling :
Edit : Of course, still gameplay feat photomode.
Remind me of this
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Currently playing through FF7R and i'm most excited for the end of the narrow linear crawl loading technique.
You can really start to see the constraints and weird level design
Really promising that these things will be gone next gen
You can really start to see the constraints and weird level design
Really promising that these things will be gone next gen
Driving games on OG PS4 weren't bad either:
What impresses you is your prerogative.
What impresses you is your prerogative.
one word.. nope.
I see a lot of dramatic overestimation what you all think next gen consoles will give you.
now for a 1080p 30 fps cutscene where you are not dealing with gamecode running int he background, you might see a glimpse of it
They are beefy consoles for sure, but are obviously still not matching high end PC that run 600/1000 dollar graphics cards. Now there goes a lot of forward thinking in console design but in the end the constraint is power input and hardware budget.
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The division looks fine on console when everything has loaded in. But the divsion 1 had big input lag on console and the division 2 had big texture streaming issues.
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Looks nice :)
Seems to be not related to any PG game. Just artist doing it for fun.
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I agree with this. I don't expect that perfection level. image quality etc. But similar results sure....
The mountain smoke its just a prebaked animation like one in Ryse.
Real time fluid dynamics is a different beast.
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Look at the environments! I'm sure next gen will top that :)
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Looks nice :)
Seems to be not related to any PG game. Just artist doing it for fun.
That last screenshot if targeted as a real time play environment makes me a believer of this in real time next:
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IDK, keep in mind that's not even running a full 1080p. It's also a very corridored game and 30fps.
Add some more environmental interaction, more CPUs, open the environment up to much larger spaces, bump it to 4K 60fps and add some Ray tracing and I think that's about what we should expect.
Obviously there will be some games that are more corridored, don't run at 60fps, don't run at full 4k, and/or really make use of the hardware. Of course those will look better in stills and gifs. However I wouldn't expect all games to be like that.
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You are correct. I already know this. I mean similar results with VRS, DLSS, Tech Trickery, Photogrammetry, Mesh Shaders and SSDs transfer speed.
Talking of animation during current gen, context sensitive blending had seen great strides in certain games:
I'd would reckon that with limited usage of RT features, image reconstruction and higher resolution PBR textures, we may expect realtime gameplay to owe its likely verisimilitude to offline render in motion.
If we can get that kind of lighting precision (and Sub surface scattering) during actual real time gameplay next gen, that'll be the true victory.
I'd would reckon that with limited usage of RT features, image reconstruction and higher resolution PBR textures, we may expect realtime gameplay to owe its likely verisimilitude to offline render in motion.
Quantum Break:
If we can get that kind of lighting precision (and Sub surface scattering) during actual real time gameplay next gen, that'll be the true victory.
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This game is awesome visually. Coming from a PS4 Pro user in 4k. and I own a RTX 2080.
Fair doos. When ever I see you post lately you're always bad mouthing game graphics by comparing them to CGI though.
Anyone with an ounce of common sense knows that videogames cannot match (in micro detail) a video which has been rendered over thousands of hours vs creating an interactive medium where you have to render a new frame every 16 or 33 ms whilst also building massive interactive world's outside of those frames with hundreds of thousands of work hours put into them.
It seems gross the way you at times play off videogame visuals like they're trash... Considering the constraints of real time rendering and the near seven year old hardware, games get very close at a glance which is incredible.
Because of the above videogames are much, much more impressive than CGI movies to me.
This guy was hired by CDPR. Cyberpunk 2077 gonna be off the charts.
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Any word on how their engine is for console development? I can't remember any games this gen (on consoles) where I recall seeing Unigine.
I am expecting that level of fidelity for real time, "in-engine" cinematics for most AAA games this gen. But, we do NOT play cutscenes. As such, while they are a great tool to see what the systems can do when every last bit of performance can be directed, bereft of having to make any compromise with regards to overhead, they are seldom, if ever, representative of actual gameplay visuals.
Any word on how their engine is for console development? I can't remember any games this gen (on consoles) where I recall seeing Unigine.
I am expecting that level of fidelity for real time, "in-engine" cinematics for most AAA games this gen. But, we do NOT play cutscenes. As such, while they are a great tool to see what the systems can do when every last bit of performance can be directed, bereft of having to make any compromise with regards to overhead, they are seldom, if ever, representative of actual gameplay visuals.
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ResetEraVetVIP : What is your performance target for Control and SC? And correspondingly, what kind of visual settings do you generally use?
Those are rather really nice SC screenshots. Most importantly, they're in-game.
Those are rather really nice SC screenshots. Most importantly, they're in-game.
Everytime I see that gif I want to jump off and glide haha.
I predict when we see Horizon 2 people will affectionately call it Horizon of the Wild because it will basically take all the best bits from BotW like the HUUUUGE World, the wonder of exploration, the climbing, the cooking of food for buffs and elixers and maybe even a glider (but more likely a flying mount) and combine it with the phenomenal bow combat, cinematic story telling, great story quests and jaw dropping visuals of Horizon Zero Dawn.
A combination of Zero Dawn and BotW would be very close to the perfect AAA open World game imo.
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Indeed. When talking about how much better graphics will look in an upcoming generation everyone mostly focuses on how much more realistic they will be able to look, but it's also the more stylized art styles that will shine even more, for example anime-inspired games.
A game I stylistically love is Genshin Impact. It does already look real lovely and charming:
real time cutscene:
It does however also show limitations and that it is made for the current gen and even weaker platforms. Imagine this being made especially with the PS5 in mind. The character models could look so rounded and polished like real hand drawn anime characters, the painterly environment textures would shine even more in crisp resolutions, the LOD of the open world could be pushed even farther out, more NPCs and none of them just popping into view...
This could look like a real anime, even better even, on PS5.
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I will be very, very happy if we can get that level of character model next gen...
Compare Uncharted to Uncharted 4 or The Last of Us to TLOU Part II for later gen games. The generational leap is absolutely enormous. There will be another enormous generational leap in six months time.
I have no idea why some people are so obsessed with playing down the console generational leap every time it happens it makes those same people look silly.
No sane person expects the micro details of top of the line offline rendering on a $500 console but developers can use so many tricks to get within touching distance.
Ultimately it's subjective, as all art is.
Were they really hired by CDPR?
Congrats to the them thats so cool.
On consoles nothing was released using the Unigine engine.
Im pretty sure Unigine 3 is the first time they are even trying to get this engine mass market.
Maybe the engine getting cheaper will let more devs atleast attempt to get it on console nextgen.
From what it can do on PC im sure it will push nextgen machines.
Im trying to give it the time of day hopefully I can get something impressive out by the anniversary of it going community
The procedural animation caught me by surprise and had me cackling.
I do not say that video games look bad. I often reiterate that games are gorgeous. What I DO say, is that there is a huge difference between realtime rendering and offline rendering. And explain the specific reasons why. When you stare at CG just as long as a video game, the differences are very very obvious. And this thread's premise is that we're getting top of the line offline rendered quality when we just got PBR this gen.
These aren't realtime. Ryse's cinematics are FMVs made with cry engine. Like the cinematics in Dice's games.Ryse Son of Rome:
What I find interesting is that they replaced nyx's strands of hair with video game hair. We really aren't moving past video game hair for awhile.
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You talk to this NPC only one time in the game
And a lambda NPC no dialog with him.
The video itself says - "a trailer or cinematic can fake such simulations as well, it might as well be a baked animation. [...] Until we see something more substantial and more angles of such a substantial thing, it's better to remain skeptical"
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This looks more exciting to me than anything I've seen so far from Cyberpunk 2077 in terms of raw visual fidelity and 2077 is my most anticipated game lol.
Why does 2077 look very blurry when they've shown it. Their AA solution or genuine console footage?
What exactly does this have to do with what we're discussing here?Quantum Break:
The guy who created that street level demo is working as an Environment Artist at CDPR.
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