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Graphic Fidelity I Expect Next Gen.
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Maybe not standard for all games but Naughty Dog, Ninja Theory, Rockstar, Sony Santa Monica, Coalition, CDPR and a some other AAA devs should all surpass TLOUp2 easily next gen.
I just hope they don't forget about the framerate. I don't want to see 30fps unless it's a slooow game.
Ah yes, Pokemon, the series known for pushing the visual envelope
Holy shit that God of War advert is like a perfect example of what the SSD could theoretically achieve with fancy transitions like that between entirely different scenes, in real time.
I'm actually expecting the first couple of years to look a little more like the original Deep Down trailer but slightly better and with larger environments/character counts (it would be nice if we could get this quality in an open world game). At least for third parties.
As long as we can have Guilty Gear Xrd/Strive-level graphics on all cel-shaded games, I'm fine.
I think the God of War one is the best example. The other 2 look very close to current gen. Uncharted 4 looks almost exactly like the game we got and they're probably using in-game models with upgraded textures and lighting. Days Gone looks close enough.
God of War CG is the only one with a generational leap.
i meant literally shiny. reflections with raytacing will bring a bunch of shiny surfaces out the gate.
With resources being wasted on native 4K and ray tracing I don't expect that much major graphical changes. More up ressed
Lol no it doesn't, literally compare that ocean scene with the one in the game. ND couldn't even match their original trailer let alone a Digic Pictures commercial. And OP is this thread purely about cinematics?
I mean raytracing isn't just about reflections.
ray tracing will be the major graphical change of next-gen
can you even imagine what RDR3 and GOW2 will look like with ray tracing?
cuz i dont...
But it isn't a generational leap. It looks very close. More a like a remaster. PS5 will look better than this.
Lighting is important to visuals...and I'm not sure why folk dismiss it when talking about reaching a certain fidelity.
How is ray tracing a waste of resources? You expect ray tracing but you don't expect a major graphical change? Ray tracing is a major graphical change.
Ray tracing isn't just for reflections. Cyberpunk 2077 has ray tracing but doesn't have ray-traced reflections.
But...Senua's model in HB2 trailer is better than any of these models in the OP videos.
I feel that games will take a lot more work to look as detailed as this video
No no no, all of this is too wasteful. Just like PBR this gen, can you imagine what games would look like if we stayed with baked everything like the PS360 era?
It's funny how stronger hardware shouldn't be used for new and taxing techniques to push visuals. Like, what?
Real-time rendering tricks will make it more efficient to achieve and even surpass that look even though the CG is technically higher fidelity.
a) and d) will probably be possible next-gen. Not c) with a deffered renderer like UC4 and b) seems out of reach.
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I'm sure people much smarter than me in terms of graphics and art can tell us one hundred different reasons why this is wrong and things we're not noticing.
The Hellblade 2 model is very good but the hair in the first model in Love Death Roboy is great and I would say the light above but Hellblade 2 model is top-notch.
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I expect that the next gen consoles wouldn't be able to do Control at 1080p 60fps at PC level RT, considering the lower target for RT hardware.
So yeah in some ways they won't even be able to do that.
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thank god for 30fps and all the beatuiful visuals it allows for.
I think what we can expect for the first few years is pretty much exactly what we've got now except no low res textures.
with ssd's, compression and no data duplication, ff7 could've been half the size with no low res textures and it would look miles better.
you wont get individual hairs, shit like that takes 48 hours to sim a few hundred frames. we'll get better AO and SS methods. We'll get a few more bounce lights with raytracing, better reflections. we'll get some extra particles. we'll also get a sharper overall image and cleaner AA.
Next gen will be about taking the single character headshot moments - uncharted 4's face down on the beach scene - and scaling that level of detail up across much larger scenes.
If you seriously think we're going to end up anywhere close to what unit image or blur can do offline then you're not paying enough attention to the details in their work.
with ssd's, compression and no data duplication, ff7 could've been half the size with no low res textures and it would look miles better.
you wont get individual hairs, shit like that takes 48 hours to sim a few hundred frames. we'll get better AO and SS methods. We'll get a few more bounce lights with raytracing, better reflections. we'll get some extra particles. we'll also get a sharper overall image and cleaner AA.
Next gen will be about taking the single character headshot moments - uncharted 4's face down on the beach scene - and scaling that level of detail up across much larger scenes.
If you seriously think we're going to end up anywhere close to what unit image or blur can do offline then you're not paying enough attention to the details in their work.
No game out ATM looks as good or even close to that CG trailer.
Easy to understand your point even if I disagree but for example, a higher number of characters with bad/average animations won't be impressive either. I think devs should just focus on what's possible while offering a relatively big jump in graphics simultaneously because visual fidelity = Immersion. Then slowly raise the NPC number or something else that was more limited later in the generation.
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Your gonna be shocked when you see next gens visuals. It's gonna be a generational leap close to my original post. FF7R looks CGI except for the bad textures.
And, that Uncharted trailer was running on the engine. We will definitely see games meet, and exceed, that quality next gen.
I realised I worded it incorrectly. I meant 4K only was a waste of resources And was implying that raytracing will cost a lot with out necessarily saying it was a waste.
I'd rather see a huge leap in graphics say from resident evil1 to 5 than gpu giving me 4K over 1080p
I think graphics will have at least the same fidelity as that Deep Down tech demo we got at the PS4 reveal event. It looks great even today.
It kinda makes me sad that people have these crazy expectations for visuals... I mean, I get it, you want to be blown away by the hardware you're buying and all that, but this expectation is what makes developers focus on probably the wrong things. Look at The Order 1886 and stuff like that. I'd love to see new experiences and genres that we've never seen before, really innovative stuff. Wouldn't that be more exciting than seeing the actual pores in the skin of the characters?
Order 1886 was one of the best games this gen so I'd be glad to see more devs pump out stuff like that.