No, I wasn't talking about this, but more generally off topic.
Shit went down for sure.
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Granblue Fantasy: Relink development moved to Cygames entirely, Platinum Games' contract ended
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Shit went down for sure.
It might be more that perhaps Platinum can't handle AA-AAA level work on a huge scale, and that's why both MS and Cygames (who were aiming for that level of game) dropped contracts with them.
All of their other projects are smaller scale (Nier Automata included) and that might be where their most effective zone is.
At the end of the day this doesn't really matter so long as the gameplay still looks good.
Like, do people think Cygames just scrap everything and start from scratch? lol.
Do people think Platinum just took their 'combat system' and go home?
Like, do people think Cygames just scrap everything and start from scratch? lol.
Do people think Platinum just took their 'combat system' and go home?
If development was going so poorly that Cygames decided to move development in house, I wonder how much of PG's work is worth salvaging to them anyway. Nintendo is unlikely to use much, if any, of Namco's work on MP4. Square Enix is just as unlikely to use any of CC2's work on FF7R.
Definitely worried about the future of Platinum here. This isn't the first high profile game of theirs hitting roadblocks and shutdowns. As for Re:Link itself, I'm not entirely concerned for its future. Cygames has the resources to do it in house, and in choosing to work with PG in the first place, they clearly had a distinct vision for the game. They're not going to suddenly change it to something completely unrecognizable now that they're not longer working with PG. It's still going to be an action RPG with cool combat.
Definitely worried about the future of Platinum here. This isn't the first high profile game of theirs hitting roadblocks and shutdowns. As for Re:Link itself, I'm not entirely concerned for its future. Cygames has the resources to do it in house, and in choosing to work with PG in the first place, they clearly had a distinct vision for the game. They're not going to suddenly change it to something completely unrecognizable now that they're not longer working with PG. It's still going to be an action RPG with cool combat.
Development has mostly been in house for a while. Most of last year, and maybe longer had more Cygames staff on the game than Platinum. It's not a case of salvaging work, just continuing with what they already have.
If this was the case, then PG's logo wouldn't be scrubbed from the game. They would be fully credited for their work on the game.
They work with every other publisher just fine. And let's not forget Scalebound was proceeded by a number of cancellations at Microsoft.
Sounds like they've finished their side of the development. They were responsible for the combat engine, and if that's done; well... They're not needed anymore.
Hope they can continue to find steady work. I'm sure that Nintendo and S-E will be tapping them going forward though.
That'd never happen. That's the whole reason why Platinum was founded in the first place. To break away from Capcom and regain independence and creative freedom.
I have no doubt that they will. Nintendo always aim to foster long-term relationships when they partner up with someone and PG have done excellent work for Nintendo. They're one of the very few companies out there that can actually make a game themselves that lives up to Nintendo's standards of quality (i.e, not just doing grunt work, but actual gameplay design).
Even if it's co-development on a Nintendo EPD project (ALA Starfox Zero), Nintendo will be sticking with PG for a LONG time...
Hope they can continue to find steady work. I'm sure that Nintendo and S-E will be tapping them going forward though.
That'd never happen. That's the whole reason why Platinum was founded in the first place. To break away from Capcom and regain independence and creative freedom.
I have no doubt that they will. Nintendo always aim to foster long-term relationships when they partner up with someone and PG have done excellent work for Nintendo. They're one of the very few companies out there that can actually make a game themselves that lives up to Nintendo's standards of quality (i.e, not just doing grunt work, but actual gameplay design).
Even if it's co-development on a Nintendo EPD project (ALA Starfox Zero), Nintendo will be sticking with PG for a LONG time...
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It does feel a bit weird that CyGames would do this for Granblue Relink but not Lost Order, considering Relink has had fairly far-along looking footage released recently whereas Lost Order has been completely missing in action for a long time. I guess Granblue is one of CyGames' flagship IPs, so maybe the company is simply more invested in making sure Relink comes out top-notch whereas they're content to let Lost Order languish in limbo indefinitely.
Thats more solid yea, hmmyeah gone from pg games list
before
after
Platinum is fine.
They're contracted on Bayonetta 3, and I wouldnt be surprised if Square has them working with Taro again. And who knows what else?
They're contracted on Bayonetta 3, and I wouldnt be surprised if Square has them working with Taro again. And who knows what else?
I think Emily wrote they are working on 1 or 2 (I don't remember) Switch exclusives other than Bayo 3.
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If it's 2 I'd guess there's a new IP and perhaps helping with No More Heroes 3
I think this does spell trouble for this particular game considering the removal of the credit entirely.
But the people doomsaying about Platinum themselves are being ridiculous. Bayonetta 3 is absolutely a product that will come out. I'm confident Babylon's Fall will as well. Plus there's the rumored Switch games (one of which is probably Kamiya's new title), and likely another Nier project as well.
They're more than fine.
But the people doomsaying about Platinum themselves are being ridiculous. Bayonetta 3 is absolutely a product that will come out. I'm confident Babylon's Fall will as well. Plus there's the rumored Switch games (one of which is probably Kamiya's new title), and likely another Nier project as well.
They're more than fine.
Bayonetta 3 + 2 NSW exclusives + Babylon's Fall + self-published IP?
That's a lot.
I'm so upset by this.
The last gameplay video with all the wind had looked so good! And this was my most wanted game of 2019
:(
The last gameplay video with all the wind had looked so good! And this was my most wanted game of 2019
:(
Cygames was already taking up more and more of the bulk of production at that point, so this change in the relationship probably won't significantly affect development.
Nah, leave them independent. Platinum should work with Nintendo and SE which are their major contractors right now.
Yeah no way it's just them having already compleated their jobs if they were kicked off the credits and deleted the game from their websites.
Seems like pg is in trouble at this point... They were once the studio you would hire if you wanted decent and fast development, now they are quickly becoming unreliable... and for a gun for hire that's no good.
Seems like pg is in trouble at this point... They were once the studio you would hire if you wanted decent and fast development, now they are quickly becoming unreliable... and for a gun for hire that's no good.
This.
If they were only contracted to develop the combat why even announce the game as a joint effort? And now they get to keep P* work on combat but erase all mentions of ever being involved?
I hope this is a "Their work is done so the contract is fulfilled" scenario rather than a "Their work is not good enough so they're being removed from development" scenario.
I don't think we should be jumping to the conclusion that PG was at fault or that they can't ship a game. It's entirely possible that Cygames and PG had creative disagreements that led to this rather than assuming PG was missing deadlines or was mismanaged or whatever. Seems unnecessarily pessimistic.
They outsource a lot.
And Nintendo is probably helping them with the exclusive games, and Square with Babylon's Fall.
If this were the case there is absolutely no need for them to announce anything in this way.
They would have just went a bit silent and still been credited.
This is obviously something more.
PG developed the core-system - CyGames can move finish it on their own now.
That PG team is preparing for Dragalia Lost on Switch now.
*believe*
Dont think its true either - but i doubt it would be impossible if Nintendo approached them for another exclusive.
That PG team is preparing for Dragalia Lost on Switch now.
*believe*
I mean they had W101 and B2 in development at the same time...for the freaking WiiU.
Dont think its true either - but i doubt it would be impossible if Nintendo approached them for another exclusive.
I mean I'm not a contract worker, but if I was I would be a bit miffed if my client removed all credit for my work after I completed the project.
Not really heard of the game but they usually don't press announce when another company finishes their contracted work. You only really do this if the contract is terminated early. Weird still that the logo and game is missing from the respective sites.
Hrmmm... A little odd to be sure.
Hrmmm... A little odd to be sure.
Oooof. Add this to the troubled history of Platinum Games. Not happy to hear this news at all. I'm not really familiar with GranBlue, but I liked the gameplay footage, but I can't deny that I was mostly interested in the game because of Platinum Games. I hope Platinum's other projects (Bayonetta 3, the Square-Enix game, whatever else they have in the pipeline) will be succesful enough so that this won't break their necks.
I'm a bit surprised by the amount of people saying stuff like "nothing wrong here, Platinum finished their development and now CyGames is just polishing it" etc. Even though we don't know any details I don't think that's the case. They wouldn't have to announce anything then nor would they have to remove Platinum's logo? The latter would especially be baffling. Removing their logo just screams that they're trying to erase Platinum's history / involvement from the game, which I think wouldn't be the case if they would've just finished the work on the game they were contracted for. There has to be more to it and we recently saw similar happen to the FF7 remake as well as Metroid Prime 4, where we got some early rumors, that Nintendo is changing the developer (which they recently confirmed). I remember people also saying that it doesn't have to mean anything back when the rumors about Nintendo changing Metroid Prime 4's developer spread around.
I'm a bit surprised by the amount of people saying stuff like "nothing wrong here, Platinum finished their development and now CyGames is just polishing it" etc. Even though we don't know any details I don't think that's the case. They wouldn't have to announce anything then nor would they have to remove Platinum's logo? The latter would especially be baffling. Removing their logo just screams that they're trying to erase Platinum's history / involvement from the game, which I think wouldn't be the case if they would've just finished the work on the game they were contracted for. There has to be more to it and we recently saw similar happen to the FF7 remake as well as Metroid Prime 4, where we got some early rumors, that Nintendo is changing the developer (which they recently confirmed). I remember people also saying that it doesn't have to mean anything back when the rumors about Nintendo changing Metroid Prime 4's developer spread around.
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Oh well, my interest to the game is completely gone, they're probably gonna transform it in a teash loot f2p game. Platinum has a real bad luck, or it needs to stop working with bad companies.
This is the best kind of news i could have read regarding the game. I just wanted Platinum Games for the combat system, maybe a few movesets, and nothing more.
I feel like Cygames really want to make a great game and this is the kind of move that make me believe in this.
I feel like Cygames really want to make a great game and this is the kind of move that make me believe in this.
Ah, good. Good.
I wasn't concerned about the game so much as I was the state of Plat. All is well.
