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Govenor Newsom: California now under shelter in place order
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I went to the target by Milpitas and there were quite a few people there but no one was practicing social distancing lining up closely and what not.
Thank God. If I couldn't even go to the park for a walk or something, I would lose it. haha
No price on the ticket, but I imagine the person who took the picture wanted to hide their name.
What about the large, retail stores that sell groceries? Like Walmart or Target? I work at a Walmart and was smart enough to do an early LOA starting Monday, but forgot that I need to pick up my W2 from personnel.
I was listening to the press conference Q&A afterwards with newsom, and not one fucking reporter asked such a basic question on the minds of millions of people: What's going to happen to their bills that need to be paid? (unless i missed it)
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All those are considered essential stores and will remain open. Basically any stores that sells groceries will be allowed to remain open.
That's considered an essential business and doesn't fall under the lockdown.
Like I said in another post they call suspend all these bills but in the end once all this is over with the creditors want their money.
What a crazy situation this all is. I'm glad I live in such a tame area, shit isn't ever going down here
So? It would still help curb the spread of the virus even if its not enforceable and many ignore it!
I'd say that should be more on the store to try to enforce it themselves. I saw a video of a Costco somewhere, that used shopping carts and pallets to seperate coming/going lines. I mean, if the stores themselves want to be safe, it would be good to have it enforced.
Yes as long as you stay 6ft away from people. Obviously there will be times where you come across others on the street and can't maintain 6ft distance but I think police look for people who are just standing around talking in public more than anything.
Cases double roughly every 4.5 days.
675 current cases x 2^(60/4.5) = 6.95 million
For 20 million, there would need to be roughly 1900 cases currently. The number is likely far higher than that.
Our landlord (LA) said they will be flexible on payments and late fees but frankly that's bullshit. There shouldnt be rent for April straight up.
He stressed that 56% would be the number if no measures were taken. And California has been taking them for a couple weeks now. It's still scary, but it's a great justification for such extreme measures.
Yes. Just keep 6ft distance from others.
Gonna have to see if this will affect my job. Work in an electronic contract manufacturing company.
You can't really force creditors to not collect on debt.
The state has already moved to halt evictions and foreclosures, and they've loosened as many unemployment restrictions as they can (if you're suddenly out of work, you should immediately be filing for unemployment). Anything else will need to happen at the federal level.
Gamestop's California stores are gonna have a real challenge calling themselves "essential goods" now. I'm so glad I cancelled my pre-orders and put all my credit onto PSN cards earlier this week.
56% is scary as fuck. I left Walmart to protect my 88-year-old mother. Now, a trip to the store puts me at risk. Luckily three members of our family our nurses or former nurses so we put practices in place. Those touch screens and styluses at the stores are a bit of a worry, so I bring gloves and napkins if I have to touch anything. I'm the primary caregiver of my mother and I'm making my sister, brother and sister-in-law try and keep a good distance from each other, but it's hard in a small house.
56% is scary as fuck. I left Walmart to protect my 88-year-old mother. Now, a trip to the store puts me at risk. Luckily three members of our family our nurses or former nurses so we put practices in place. Those touch screens and styluses at the stores are a bit of a worry, so I bring gloves and napkins if I have to touch anything. I'm the primary caregiver of my mother and I'm making my sister, brother and sister-in-law try and keep a good distance from each other, but it's hard in a small house.
Great. I'm expecting tomorrow I will probably be banned.
Hope not, this situation is drastically changing every day. Heard about the serious restrictions in Italy and considering the Governor is worried half the state could be infected in 2 months is making me really paranoid.
It's a horrible feeling not being able to check on my dad (they refuse to allow visitors at his nursing home). The staff at my mom's facility said it was ok as long as we stay outside.
Otherwise my mom is screaming her lungs out over the phone for me to get her out of there which is practically impossible right now.
My job cannot be done at home but I am really lucky continue working because my company provides supply to essential businesses. We sell sign materials to various sign shops and government agencies across the Bay Area. There's been a need to create new signage for city and county closures as well as hospitals needing new signs for anything regarding the virus.
My wife on the other hand is a preschool teacher and is out of work for an undetermined amount of time. Seeing her stuck at home with our one year old without any clear idea as to when she will be able to go back to work is truly sobering. Knowing there are potentially millions of people stuck having the same feeling of uncertainty as my wife really makes this situation feel so dire. I do my best to come home positive everyday, cook dinner and keep the best level of stability I can for us.
This is truly going to be a tough time for all of us. I hope you all are able to come out ok on the other side.
My wife on the other hand is a preschool teacher and is out of work for an undetermined amount of time. Seeing her stuck at home with our one year old without any clear idea as to when she will be able to go back to work is truly sobering. Knowing there are potentially millions of people stuck having the same feeling of uncertainty as my wife really makes this situation feel so dire. I do my best to come home positive everyday, cook dinner and keep the best level of stability I can for us.
This is truly going to be a tough time for all of us. I hope you all are able to come out ok on the other side.
The government needs to do something about all the people and businesses that are at risk right now.
How has a moratorium on rent and other bills not already been established?
How has a moratorium on rent and other bills not already been established?
Your dad's facility is handling this better.
It is horrible. But it is better than the alternative. Let your mom scream, and tell her you love her and will see her as soon as it's safe.
Its impossible to enforce and creates many of its own dangers. There are no good or easy choices here. 20 million people across 3 states
I wish there was some guidance given the vast diversity of jobs that could easily be considered essential beyond the obvious like grocery workers and nurses.
We work on DX rated military programs, which are given "the highest national priority." It would seem self evident that we can't shut down given the implications to the military supply chain, but there is zero guidance on this from the state.
Not true. It's possible they decide that keeping the lockdown might be worse in the long run and are forced to open things up.
I don't think that's an easy thing to do. There's a moratorium on evictions but even then when that moratorium is up I assume you owe the back rent.
Yo yesterday in Seattle the gorgeous weather had people playing basketball and soccer at the park with their kids and riding bikes. Crowded as hell. People don't understand simple instructions, so we probably need shelter in place to protect WA too
I was born and raised in Alturas so I can second that the people are stubborn and backwards at times. I hope they make the right choices for the safety of my family but like you say, lots of tinfoil hats there.
Worse in what way? Forced by what circumstances? I'm trying to understand what you're saying . I am trying to not jump to the awful conclusion you're worrying about economic consequences in the face of a pandemic that could wipe millions of Americans off this planet within the next year.
They do provide some guidance here:
Current safety measures
Steps you can take to protect yourself from COVID-19 and prevent its spread.
covid19.ca.gov
Honestly, if you're not a retail establishment I don't really think the police are going to start raiding office buildings (unless there's a snitch), but that's for the company to decide I guess.
They won't.
I had an older gentleman come in today who just got out of a month long stay in the hospital. His reason, he couldn't find his clock app on his phone and wanted it on his home screen.
Alot of people are gonna lose their jobs if they haven't already but no one is listening the street are still full of people her in LA
I hear you. Haven't got my response from my supervisor whether or not we're working tomorrow. So probably assuming we will indeed work.
lmao we're looking at millions dead because of a virus but the economy, guys, the economy.
Get people food, shelter, healthcare, and security. Nothing else matters right now. Get that UBI flowing, freeze rent, whatever. Do it.
Our household has been in unofficial quarantine for the last ~5 days and now I guess it's legit.
Get people food, shelter, healthcare, and security. Nothing else matters right now. Get that UBI flowing, freeze rent, whatever. Do it.
Our household has been in unofficial quarantine for the last ~5 days and now I guess it's legit.
With the complete void of competent leadership at the federal level, it's up to the states to save themselves. So this is great news, and I'd welcome them going further and actually enforcing it. People are right to be concerned about the economic impact — which will be unprecedented — but if our healthcare systems collapse, and other governmental systems follow, our prognosis as an economy and society will be even worse. We need to be doing everything we can to try and blunt the impact now. This is the right call.
They do provide some guidance here:
Current safety measures
Steps you can take to protect yourself from COVID-19 and prevent its spread.
Honestly, if you're not a retail establishment I don't really think the police are going to start raiding office buildings (unless there's a snitch), but that's for the company to decide I guess.
Thanks for this, but I was thinking more that I wish there were some kind of guidance for things like businesses that have obligations to the operation of the federal government. Newsom only really talked about state and local government.
You're right though that it's not like we're going to get raided or anything. I just know that it's going to be insanely hard to get definitive answers due to the volume of people who will be trying to get them.
This still isn't a ticket for standing too close to someone on the sidewalk. This is a parking ticket at the UC Berkeley Botanical Gardens, which are closed due to the virus and the shutdown order. I think it's hard to justify going there as "essential".No price on the ticket, but I imagine the person who took the picture wanted to hide their name.
The economic consequences affects everyone. At some point the economic consequences are going to be hurting way more people and cause suffering and desperation that the number of people going through this is going to outweigh the number of people that would be by this virus. You can't keep things lock down forever and at some point they may have to decide to open things up otherwise so many other things crumble along with the people impacted by the ramifications there. I hate to make this analogy because of all the shitty flu analogies that have taken place, but we don't shut down society because of the flu. We know people will die from the flu, but the number of people who do die from the flu isn't great enough to cripple society to keep those people safe from it. Make no mistake, I'm not saying this virus is like the flu; it's by far significantly worse, but the point stands that at some point the vast majority of the people will have to be considered and that's an unfortunate truth that we already deal with even before this. I would not want to be the person who has to make that decision because someone is going to suffer because of it.
It's not so bad, guys. It's just like being on vacation, except you can't go anywhere, and you still have to work.