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Google to restrict ad-blockers in Chrome (update: Google have relaxed the proposed changes, 'all of these changes are still in the draft stage')
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Paid hosted email is your best bet, there's services like Kolab Now which imitates the whole software suit of google, but keeps your email private. They are a Swiss based company. There's Fastmail which offers a free 30 day trial which is a fast growing paid alternative to gmail, you won't be able to make your own host though.
I myself ended up with Protonmail which has even stricter security, there's a free version of the mail client available for everyone. If you really want to use it to its fullest you'll have to pay as well. What I did was make a "company" with my family and get the |"visionary" Protonmail setup. I pay about 25 euro's each year along with seven family members for a great working email client, own host, server and one of the better VPN's all at once. It has a great supporting app for android at least, the apple version seems to get good reviews as well.
I still use ublock fine ATM. But there's YouTube specific add-ons which let you block ads on it specifically.
Well yes. In a company as large as Google different teams have different independent priorities and probably do not directly talk to other teams. Same reason why Chrome devrel will tell you to make your site work in all browsers and yet plenty of Google sites are Chrome only. Some teams have engineers that want good fast products and that's their primary concern, or maybe they are a rep for a standardization committee and want the best API, it just happens that Google also sells ads. This happens all the time with the big tech companies, they do everything so every time something is killed or removed it's always possible to assume other intents. Android does this a lot when they fight fragmentation or add new security features they wind up killing various apps, sometimes ones will novel uses of features. Sometimes on a product level they do intend to make certain power grabs, but at least here this was known they did not like the design of the API for years. The effect can still be real all the same though. I liken it to a giant that accidentally squishes people because they are too big to see them.
WebExtensions is a proposed W3C standard and covers manifest v2. If Chrome drops WebRequest in v3 as the primary implementer that part would be DOA. Firefox will try to adhere to the standard and no standard will exist if one of the larger browsers refuses to implement without consensus of others. Edge is going all Chromium so they're out, as it Opera and all the other low-share browsers. So it would just be Safari and they've deprecated their WebExtensions implementation for their own custom thing.
Alternatively, if you don't have a raspberry pi. You can set up PI Hole to run on Google's Cloud Engine service (always fun to use Google to combat ads). They have a free tier that should suffice, otherwise there's a monthly bandwidth fee. (US-only)
https://www.hndeati.com/2017/04/install-pi-hole-on-google-cloud.html
Last time I used Opera, it had its own built-in adblocker. Curious about what happens there.
Yeah, I just don't use it though, as I prefer uBlock. I'm curious to see how it is handled, as all (most of) the major browsers use Chromium now except for Firefox.
anywhere i can read up on the security issues with this particular api functionality? thanks for the insight btw, very interesting
lol this is funny. I've got a Raspberry pi2.
I'm looking at this too as I use Adguard right now and its served me well - https://github.com/AdguardTeam/AdGuardHome/wiki/Raspberry-Pi
Seems its interface might be a bit more user-friendly.
Thanks for this - I'll look into all of those services and see which seems to be the best for me to move to.
I managed to get this up and running on my pi. Learned a bit more today! I initially bought the Pi for emulation a few years ago but never really used it.
Still not 100% sure how a pi-hole (or adguard home which is a version of it) is much different than adblocking DNS? Well, it's a local version of it I guess with proper tracking and stats.
The good thing is adguard home has whitelisting, and I'm sure pihole does too.
No. Firefox Android (not Focus) blocks ads too, just check settings. They are off by default for regular tabs.
Thank you! This seems amazing, it automatically goes to full screen and letterboxes. Why does youtube insist on keeping the browser bar visible?? Well and also won't run because I use internet security lol.
Isn't that just a front-end for YouTube so it's essentially your YT recommendations? lol
My computer isn't the best so Chrome was starting to give me a hard time, often requiring me to reboot it. This has provided me with a good reason to check out Firefox again after so long.
First impressions are good so far.
Though does anyone know how to autohide the address bar in full screen mode on Mac OS?
First impressions are good so far.
Though does anyone know how to autohide the address bar in full screen mode on Mac OS?
I never noticed such. Your comment made me want to point out this possibility to the project's creator but I found a thread already covering it:
https://github.com/omarroth/invidious/issues/217
I think the author (Omar) comes off pretty well there (there seems to be no intentional right-wing bias) and alternate front-page seeding solutions appear to be in the works.
Personally I never see the front page because I search the site with a Firefox bookmark keyword, ie "y2 elena vs hugo" and it takes me to the search results page. I'm also logged in (dark theme!).
Edit: Modified a script from StackOverflow to redirect any YT URL in Google search results to equivalent Invidio.us links.
Code:
// ==UserScript==
// @name Google Replace YT w/ Invidio.us
// @namespace Violentmonkey Scripts
// @match https://www.google.com/search
// @grant none
// ==/UserScript==
var links,thisLink;
links = document.evaluate("//a[@href]",
document,
null,
XPathResult.UNORDERED_NODE_SNAPSHOT_TYPE,
null);
for (var i=0;i<links.snapshotLength;i++) {
var thisLink = links.snapshotItem(i);
thisLink.href = thisLink.href.replace(RegExp('https?://www\\.youtube\\.com/(.*)'),
'https://www\.invidio\.us/$1');
thisLink.href = thisLink.href.replace(RegExp('https?://youtu\\.be/(.*)'),
'https://www\.invidio\.us/watch\?v=$1');
}
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It's probably just generic then. Never seen that site before.
In other news I switched over to Pi Hole using that guide from earlier which runs a lite version of Linux. Got everything setup and I've just been adding block lists and sorting out my whitelist.
The USB3 port on my hub seems to be good enough to power my PI 2b so it's just plugged in there and connected with ethernet.
Not that I really use it but even my PS4 browser now blocks ads lol.
Oh, I see. I haven't experienced any of this so far.
I installed Firefox earlier this month though.
I have oficially totally migrated to Firefox. I just wish they allowed spell check in two languages at the same time and I REALLY wish the Android app was better, it's pretty slow on my Snapdragon 625 phone, but whatever, having uBlock Origin on mobile is cool.
I'm glad I'm all macOS/iOS. Makes it easy to avoid chrome. +1 that iOS lets you do native ad blocking in safari.
I knew google would do this kind of stuff over time.
I knew google would do this kind of stuff over time.
That's great news for other browsers.
You don't have to use Chrome. They are a lot of other good browsers out there.
You don't have to use Chrome. They are a lot of other good browsers out there.
Install the nightly on mobile. It's 10x better.
Shocking that Mozilla hasn't implemented the scrolling patches on ordinary Firefox yet. Even if they're worried about bugs the ordinary Firefox on mobile is already a fucking bug.
Errrrr.... Safari already made the change proposed here by Google about a year ago. Safari for iOS only ever had a very similar API to the one proposed here.
Just found out DietPi is a thing - https://dietpi.com/
Looks to be even better than Rasp-lite for doing a dedicated Pi-Hole box.
https://dietpi.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9
Software system it has is quite cool too
https://dietpi.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5&sid=d7ff05d1236562e30834d8957ce152de#p5
Looks to be even better than Rasp-lite for doing a dedicated Pi-Hole box.
https://dietpi.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?t=9
Software system it has is quite cool too
https://dietpi.com/phpbb/viewtopic.php?f=8&t=5&sid=d7ff05d1236562e30834d8957ce152de#p5
I had to come back and thank you for mentioning Great Suspender, causing me to look it up and install it. Thank you.
Oh, I was wrong then. Then I don't get the big deal. Slightly bloatier? Aren't there many options to use. The ones I use for iOS and macOS don't seem any slower than unlock on chrome. Don't have any whitelisting issues either.
Same finally was motivated enough to switch everything over. Tried once before but the new version of Firefox wasn't quite there yet.
the main differences with Safari's system that made it preferable are:
1) larger block lists (50,000 vs Google's proposed 30,000)
2) a single app can provide multiple block list extensions in one app installation, so you don't need to manually install multiple extensions to work around the block list
3) Safari didn't have adblocking at all before, so adding this API was purely beneficial rather than taking anything away
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finally got firefox installed on this computer again
now if only someone would port over Reddit Pro Tools from chrome so i ain't gotta read deplorables' shit
e: it'd also help if tweet embeds didn't look weirdly broken
now if only someone would port over Reddit Pro Tools from chrome so i ain't gotta read deplorables' shit
e: it'd also help if tweet embeds didn't look weirdly broken
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