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Sparks

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The thing with this Streaming future is, people are JUST coming around to digital only (downloading games to your console). I think the first step is having a full digital console (like the no disc drive Xbox and if PS5 does it as well), then I think after that people would be more receptive to a Streaming Only platform.

This will be a nice side-concept, but if they are thinking they will steal the main play space they are wrong.
 

fick

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We have a lot of questions, and they didn't come close to answering them.

Look, I'm not saying this thing is going to be great. I have no idea. All I know is that based on what I saw, I like, and I'm willing to wait to see what the final product is before I pass judgement and say it's worthless. If they try to charge some shit like $5/hour to play, or full price for a game, or the service is $30/mo, etc., I'm out.

I'm just being optimistic. Plus the idea of the server-side scaling really makes me interested to see what can be done.
 

NESpowerhouse

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As someone who very likely has the bottom 1% for internet speeds on this site. I am most definitely not on board with the uncertainty of starting up a game and not knowing how reliably it will run. Actually, it really doesn't matter how fast your internet is, there will always be some level of uncertainty when it comes to streaming games, whereas with booting up a game on a console or PC, you can rest assured that the game will pretty much run the way it did the last time you tried running the game.
 

Nintendo

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So far this is the only streaming service that provides features only possible with streaming. Can't wait to see how the competition pans out in this field.
 

Possumowner

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I mean I thought it was great tech...but where my games at,price,details on connection I need....answers answers required everywhere...I'll probably still buy into it
 

Rocco

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People are a bunch of negative whiners here.

Yes, it's a streaming service (we all anticipated this). Which means your internet will have to be kinda good. You knew that in advance, so stop whining about it. If you don't like it, don't use it. Seriously.

If Google can deliver on this 4K, 60FPS, lagless streaming, why the FUCK would you still say: "this was so boring omg where iz the gamez". Grow the fuck up. This stuff is super interesting and whether you like it or not, it's the future.

Exactly!

"But but but... Death Stranding, coming Fall 2025!! Omgz! Pl3ase b exzited right now!"

Shit gets old.
 

Amibguous Cad

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm getting same vibes I got when I saw the Ouya for the first time and a lot of people were hyped for it.

It just doesn't give you that good feeling in your gut, if you saw a neat game and it ends with, "Launching on Stadia" you aren't going to be excited you are going to be bummed maybe? It doesn't have that HIT feel. Which matters a lot.

The impact of having your game launching on PLAYSTATION 5, is much more impactful. I don't feel like they EARNED it enough to be the next game platform, they are getting a bit ahead of themselves. And you can't play the Cocky roll where you are comparing yourself to others stating, "WE ARE LIKE A PS4 AND AN XBOX COMBINED" until you have earned that respect.

This tech is the future, just not now and just not with Google.

If it's a multiplayer game, I'm hyped about "Launching on Stadia" because it means it's going to be much easier to get all of my friends to try it out, particularly those who don't have modern PCs.
 

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Maybe in the US. Don't know how infrastructure is developed there. But here in Europe I don't think so. I mean there are villages near me that are limited to 1mbps down. And this isn't some rural ass region. Like they never even beta tested this shit outside the US. Project Stream was US only.

Microsofts/Sonys way of approaching this with both a console AND a streaming service is way more realistic.

But remember. This is for everyone.
 

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People are a bunch of negative whiners here.

Yes, it's a streaming service (we all anticipated this). Which means your internet will have to be kinda good. You knew that in advance, so stop whining about it. If you don't like it, don't use it. Seriously.

If Google can deliver on this 4K, 60FPS, lagless streaming, why the FUCK would you still say: "this was so boring omg where iz the gamez". Grow the fuck up. This stuff is super interesting and whether you like it or not, it's the future.
the reason people are asking about games is because the idea itself has enough fundamental problems that people want meaningful games to make putting up with those problems worthwhile.
 

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I made a stupid long post about why I'm interested in Game streaming in another thread:

https://www.resetera.com/threads/pr...ng-business-model.106083/page-5#post-18967643

The over-simplified tldr is mostly "It's very difficult to think of how things change when the paradigm changes, but once the paradigm changes, it's very difficult tot think about something before that paradigm changes." I don't know if Google's offering will change the paradigm -- like how Netflix, Spotify, Maps, Drive, etc changed paradigms in those areas -- but I think game streaming in general has a lot of opportunity to introduce new concepts into gaming that we're not able to comprehend now.

The one I come back to the most that has a lot of value for me, someone who loves playing games but has less and less time to play games, is truly responsive gaming... Going from one device doing one thing, to another device in the same game where maybe I continue to do that same thing I was doing on my TV, or maybe I do something else but still actually in the game. That's something very common today with movies, websites you visit, news you consume, ways you chat with your friends, etc., but it's not something gaming really tries to do at all. I think there's real opportunity to introduce new ways to play the same games we play today, but in different ways.
I'm definitely interested in streaming technology, I was mainly referring to google jumping in on it. Why should we care that Google is trying to get into this business when we know that the tried and true platforms will likely be going there before long too?

It just seems weird for them to come out with this.
 

Droidian

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I was more impressed by the name Tequila Works.
Imagine a shot of tequila mandated before your work shift.
Tequila makes it all work.
 

Anno

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Oct 25, 2017
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I'm not really interested one way or another in actually playing games with this service, but it seems crazy not to be interested in it at a higher level. Who knows how much of an impact this ever makes, but the potential for an industry changing impact is large enough that I'd think more people would be watching with interest from the sidelines.
 

Airbar

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But remember. This is for everyone.
This pseudo socialist messaging by one of the (imo) most devious megacorps in the world really pissed me off. They talked big about their tech but that image someone posted about 133ms lag on a 200mbps connection ... like lol, I don't think any ISP is even offering anything past 100mbps around here. This will probably take off the same way the first Google glasses did.
 

Armadilo

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Oct 27, 2017
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Only problem is that it's only on Youtube which it's theirs but should put it out on twitch and not limit themselves
 

NESpowerhouse

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The thing with this Streaming future is, people are JUST coming around to digital only (downloading games to your console). I think the first step is having a full digital console (like the no disc drive Xbox and if PS5 does it as well), then I think after that people would be more receptive to a Streaming Only platform.

This will be a nice side-concept, but if they are thinking they will steal the main play space they are wrong.
Oh God, I really hope there is at least an option for a console with a disc drive. I really don't want to wait several days for a game to download (that's about how long it would take to download a 60GB game on my network). I really don't want asinine shit like this gatekeeping me from playing new games.
 

Instro

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I think one concern I have about this service, and really game streaming in general, is developers designing around the latency and limitations of such a system. Specifically I mean, with the assumption of there being lag, input lag, etc., do developers design to account for that? Do we see larger windows for getting inputs correct(dodging, blocking, jumping, etc.), increasing i-frames, etc.

I dunno I guess it's kind of silly, but it seems like a valid concern that games or mechanics reliant on input speed are either going to be dumbed down a bit or just suffer from input lag.

Obviously beyond that there is the issue of truly losing any game ownership, even beyond what little there is with digital downloads.
 

cLOUDo

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Oct 28, 2017
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i couldn't even watch the streaming to steady 480p lol

All this looks great on paper but this is clearly focus to very specific countries with a good connection
(the page is blocked in my country)
 

fierrotlepou

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the reason people are asking about games is because the idea itself has enough fundamental problems that people want meaningful games to make putting up with those problems worthwhile.

That... doesn't make sense to me. So if Google would've announced that Agent was going to be a Stadia ExclusiveTM, you think everyone would be like: "All right, Google knows wassup! To hell with my internet connection, I got Agent!"
 
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