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Google GDC 2019 Conference |OT| Floating on clouds
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Y'all really deep dive analysing Greg's tweet?
It came off as a joke. A play on the old "Sega does what Nintendon't. Like, that's it. There's probably nothing more at all to it. Damn.
As for Stadia: Looking forward to it. The Project Stream test was very promising.
And to those saying "why should anyone care about this?" It's simple: It's something you can access on devices you literally already own right now. They theoretically have an install base in the tens or hundreds of millions already. It's can be very disruptive to other platforms, especially for more casual players. Obviously all you uber-hardcore gamers here probably won't care.
It came off as a joke. A play on the old "Sega does what Nintendon't. Like, that's it. There's probably nothing more at all to it. Damn.
As for Stadia: Looking forward to it. The Project Stream test was very promising.
And to those saying "why should anyone care about this?" It's simple: It's something you can access on devices you literally already own right now. They theoretically have an install base in the tens or hundreds of millions already. It's can be very disruptive to other platforms, especially for more casual players. Obviously all you uber-hardcore gamers here probably won't care.
your device just needs to be strong enough to render the video stream
the future for like the 10 people who will be using this service next year lmao
"no they don't." "yes they do."
Meanwhile neither one of us is a developer. This is pointless.
OnLive didn't require specia hardware to play the games. You did so through a software application, which I believe was also available on mobile devices. I also recall Gaikai allowing the streaming of game demos through a browser.
But the ability to have Stadia app right next to a YouTube app on every Android device will be a game changer.
I know, but that's one of the reasons for the negative reactions right now. It was still the platform's reveal. Thinking that there'll be a plethora of appealing games on the platform is giving them the benefit of the doubt for things they haven't shown yet, and I'm not going to do that for no reason. They talked about their internal games division, but still seemed like it was just established with nothing to show.
Then you go into all of the other things they didn't talk about which would have been good for GDC like latency, how it would accomodate lower internet speeds, or what happens when there's an internet outage. It does not inspire confidence.
Nope, nothing on my side. Literally just takes me to the play store. No Google, I don't want your damn Chromecast >.>
Redirects me to this:
Fantastic.
Not even that on my side. Literally just their usual store page, nothing more.
Ubisoft's Watch Dogs 3 launching on Stadia to now be surprisingly pro big data.
some people have access to good isps and bad hardware I guess?
Seems like NDA'd stuff they'd discuss with interested devs behind closed doors for now.
They don't have to. The Odyssey beta did most of that, in that it showed that a brand new, high end AAA game was perfectly playable on a variety of devices with a variety of controllers. It's not a question if it works, and it if works well, because we have already seen that it does. The latency is comparable to a current gen console and the graphics are beyond it.
I imagine around E3 we will get a player focused presentation with those details and game anonucenments. This was for developers/creators it seemed to me.
This will be the future, older gamers will gripe about it, but the fact is when the newest AAA high-end graphics game is just sitting there on your browser and all you have to do is click to start playing within seconds and there's no $500 PS5 needed, no 1 hour download wait time, no driving to Best Buy to get your physical copy ... a lot of people are going to be compelled by that.
It will work for lots of people. As soon as the internet in more areas catches up, it will work for everyone.
The fact is just that people are willing to throw the technology under the bus already because they don't have a good internet connection. These things take time. Again, no one is forcing you to buy this or use it. But as enthusiasts and gamers, we should be excited about something like this that might bring gaming to people that can't afford $3000 gaming PC's or $500 consoles.
I'm getting same vibes I got when I saw the Ouya for the first time and a lot of people were hyped for it.
It just doesn't give you that good feeling in your gut, if you saw a neat game and it ends with, "Launching on Stadia" you aren't going to be excited you are going to be bummed maybe? It doesn't have that HIT feel. Which matters a lot.
The impact of having your game launching on PLAYSTATION 5, is much more impactful. I don't feel like they EARNED it enough to be the next game platform, they are getting a bit ahead of themselves. And you can't play the Cocky roll where you are comparing yourself to others stating, "WE ARE LIKE A PS4 AND AN XBOX COMBINED" until you have earned that respect.
This tech is the future, just not now and just not with Google.
It just doesn't give you that good feeling in your gut, if you saw a neat game and it ends with, "Launching on Stadia" you aren't going to be excited you are going to be bummed maybe? It doesn't have that HIT feel. Which matters a lot.
The impact of having your game launching on PLAYSTATION 5, is much more impactful. I don't feel like they EARNED it enough to be the next game platform, they are getting a bit ahead of themselves. And you can't play the Cocky roll where you are comparing yourself to others stating, "WE ARE LIKE A PS4 AND AN XBOX COMBINED" until you have earned that respect.
This tech is the future, just not now and just not with Google.
Eh, that's completely subjective, you can't tell others what they can look forward to or be excited about. It also doesn't change the fact that Era hates and spews unnecessary vitriol at almost everything regardless of the effort put in by the people developing/working on these products.
It's laughable because this is the same forum that advocates heavily for people keeping their jobs, businesses growing, etc., but call for immediate cancellation of products, games, media, etc. as we jump into threads shitting on every product with shitty and uninformed kneejerk reactions cuz reasons?
It's like a running inside-joke at this point to me, because I'm confident the typical posters that quickly resort to hate have next to no talent to show for all the hubris they put on display.
I guess so...but we know that Microsoft is going in on this tech too, and with Shuhei being there, I imagine Sony is interested too.
Why would anyone care to buy into a completely new platform/ecosystem, with tech that isn't really all that tested?
It just seems like.........why tho.
Exactly.
... so the presentation was insufficient from a GDC perspective as well.
I'd like to meet these mythical "casuals for which the barrier to entry is too high" that also have internet good enough for game streaming
Want to bet it'll always be listening? Google has no morals about that kind of shit.
It's really sad how modern capitalism has brainwashed the masses into tying their self worth and self image to particular brands simple due to "if they are prestige and I align with them, then I am prestige". Its all a disgusting lie.
My city has 150 Mbps fiber available for $35 a month, I can see this being a big deal for low income families.
This conference was worse than PSX 2017 AND X018
Fuck Google, only reason I was willing to give this a chance was because of exclusive games, and they didn't show ANYTHING
When your conference starts out with "I'm not much of a gamer" you're already losing
Fuck Google, only reason I was willing to give this a chance was because of exclusive games, and they didn't show ANYTHING
When your conference starts out with "I'm not much of a gamer" you're already losing
No - this is so much better than that. Watch the stream, their server solutions are incredible. I'm so confused by the negative reaction to this.
Eh, that's completely subjective, you can't tell others what they can look forward to or be excited about. It also doesn't change the fact that Era hates and spews unnecessary vitriol at almost everything regardless of the effort put in by the people developing/working on these products.
It's laughable because this is the same forum that advocates heavily for people keeping their jobs, businesses growing, etc., but call for immediate cancellation of products, games, media, etc. as we jump into threads shitting on every product with shitty and uninformed kneejerk reactions cuz reasons?
It's like a running inside-joke at this point to me, because I'm confident the typical posters that quickly resort to hate have next to no talent to show for all the hubris they put on display.
THAT SAID, this will be an interesting space to watch develop.
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when publishers like ea basically hired dozens of influencers years ago, it's not really a matter of opinion anymore.
nor is the success of games like "5 nights at freddy"
but like you say, none of us is a developer so...
Not when you have to pay like €80 per month to even get an internet connection that is capable of delivering a console like experience. The infrastructure is just not there yet.
On the ads thing, which is an inevitable topic because Google gets its operating income from advertising... Google tends to not put ads on their new services. They usually stick to the classics for ads... Google Search, Gmail, Maps, YouTube, etc. They usually use new services to improve the ad delivery/targeting on their other services, but they don't use the new services to display ads. Google Photos, Google Music, Google Drive, etc., don't display ads, but they use the data from those platforms to influence ad delivery on their other services that you're already used to seeing ads on. It's an interesting model, but one that they usually get right.
Publishers are gonna love it. Wider audience and therefore more marketing opportunities. Parents will probably like that there is something cheaper than dedicated hardware for their kids. I can't imagine gamers with decent setups will be moved by this thing, nor will it lead to a noticeably different set of possibilities for developers. Perhaps more limitations on game design, actually (how can you create rhythm-based game mechanics on this service?).
Congrats on living on one of the few communities that isn't lorded over by either Verizon or Comcast
You're an extreme outlier, although hopefully you won't be in the future
they won't even be able to make fair comparisons since this so heavily relies on your connection speed and stability. Please no stadia for future comparisons, thank you.
They just cant compete given the systemic advantages of a google or Microsoft. The potential audience of a stadia day one will dwarf all other consoles day one. As long as the quality is good enough, that is all they need.
I don't feel like they really gave us enough information to make an honest judgment about the plan. And in some sense, That's a pretty bad sign. Their next event is really gonna have to knock my socks off for me to even be thinking about their platform.
Except the data caps will hurt most people. You will spend more than $500 pretty quick.
It's not the tech we don't like. It's the fact that we have greedy fuck ISPs that even if the tech is great and works perfectly, they will sky rocket costs or lower data caps and charge more for bandwidth.
Amazing tech but it's not realistic enough right now. Especially when they haven't told us anything about data use and internet speeds
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