then don't put it in a box! the first three aren't steaming service and all of the things in boxes are failures.
only way it makes sense is if they put an ouya in the red box
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Google GDC 2019 Conference |OT| Floating on clouds
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only way it makes sense is if they put an ouya in the red box
I was more thinking of input lag (because I think 4G / LTE can bring you good ping), but yeah that would be one of the first "home/classic" game console targeting certain games more than others.
Ahem, Yoda begs to differ:
Sorry, Star Wars is EA exclusive. You can't stream that without opening a few packs first.
We'll see is announced but here is what I'll take issue with and what I would consider fine.
Bad: Streaming only service, purchase $60 games with no local download or no real ownership option
Better: Streaming only service, Buy or rent games to stream with a gamepass style a la carte service.
Best: Same as better but with a local download option for games you buy
We'll see where Google goes
Bad: Streaming only service, purchase $60 games with no local download or no real ownership option
Better: Streaming only service, Buy or rent games to stream with a gamepass style a la carte service.
Best: Same as better but with a local download option for games you buy
We'll see where Google goes
Probably because we're just not ready for a streaming future yet.
To give a bit more information on what I did test out with:
I tested in a couple of places. I tested in my home which has Fios gigabit. 4k streams, my streams to Twitch, P2P transfers, hosting my PLEX server etc. have 0 issues. My latency to most servers is more than adequate. In optimal scenarios, like Counter-Strike, my ping never peaks over 5ms. With Project Stream, there was still a noticeable amount of latency in input with it and generally speaking there were very noticeable artifact. It was like watching a decently setup Twitch stream, except you were playing it, if that makes sense.
At work, it was the same scenario. We've got a Cox business line and a Comcast one, both with basically the same speed and result while playing over Project Stream. I didn't really notice any difference over any of the three connections or devices I tested it out with, leading me to believe I was maxing out what it was capable of doing. Blown up on a 4K display, it just isn't going to scale well. On a monitor in front of my face, the compression was "acceptable". I could tell what was going on and react to what was going on, but it wasn't pretty. I feel far more people are going to prefer local hardware for this reason alone.
For me, my biggest issue was latency despite Google saying my connection was "great" or whatever. I'm very sensitive to this kind of thing, so it may have a larger impact on me as it will on other people, but I just don't think this is ready for the masses and don't think it will be for many, many more years. It is certainly an improvement on PSNow and ESPECIALLY OnLive, but when people are demanding high fidelity graphics to meet the specifications of their, now relatively common high resolution displays, it just isn't going to stack up to local hardware.
Another thing to note, which unfortunately was unable to test but feel like it'll be an even bigger issue is playing a multiplayer title. These games are bigger than they ever have been before, but add the server latency in the game you're playing + the lag of other players + the delay going to the device that you're playing on and that's gonna suck pretty hard. That's going to automatically eliminate quite a few people from the big picture Google might have seeing as live titles like Destiny, The Division, large scale multilayer games like PUBG, Fortnite, Apex Legends and fast paced FPS titles like Call of Duty and Battlefield are so huge now.
Optimally, we get two sets of hardware out of this. We get a Google home console and we get a streaming device, but I feel like it'll just be the streaming device.
How are we so close yet nobody has a clue or leaked pics of anything...Sony/MS/Nintendo need to hire Google's plumbers.....unless there's literally nothing physical to show......just a wandering cloud
Yeah, I'm not staying up til 4am tonight. Hope there's some cool games shown, but I'd be very hesitant to give Google access to yet another part of my life.
They mention switch in the 2017 part on the floor of the platform.
What if it's a streaming service, that is available on the Switch?
I'll be curious of the bandwidth usage of streaming an entire game vs. downloading the whole thing. I would assume for longer games like RPGs it may make absolutely no sense to do so. Perhaps Google will be smart enough to stream until the game is fully downloaded and then seamlessly switch over. Now that I would make me a fan.
Not interested in streaming, not interested in 99% of F2P MP games and not interested in mobile gaming.
No idea if there will be anything here for me but I'm still interested to see what our privacy eroding spying monopoly overlord delivers.
No idea if there will be anything here for me but I'm still interested to see what our privacy eroding spying monopoly overlord delivers.
Look, I know it's not happening, but if the Google console/platform/whatever really did launch with PSO2's western release.... i'd be there day 0. I will gobble up whatever bullshit I need to in order to play a western version of PSO2.
Bring it all to Switch, Xcloud, Google Stream, PS Now. All those services on the go competing for customers. I'd buy each service and then the Switch would be the only thing I'd need.
A man can dream.
This feels like a bit of revisionist history. The Dreamcast by itself didn't fail, Sega's repeated failures in the US market and the oncoming collapse of the arcade business put the Dreamcast in a position where impossible expectations were placed upon it.
I imagine the big take away from this "console" will be its network connectivity. 10gb Ethernet? LTE? 5G capability/expandibility? What we know it won't be is a dedicated console with customized hard like current consoles are.
If this ends up primarily being a streaming service, when do you guys think it'll launch? They've already tested it once with Odyssey. Do you think they'll need to do more public tests before it launches, or do you think it might be available very soon?
I'm actually really excited about this and the future of gaming! This thread reminds me of the wild speculation from a Direct thread lol.
There will be several meltdowns later when everyone's favourite game series is exclusively available on Google's new service/console...
There will be several meltdowns later when everyone's favourite game series is exclusively available on Google's new service/console...
I have to imagine it won't be. Google has enough datacenters around the world that it should be available in plenty of non-US places. But BronsonLee could be right since their test was US only.
That's not really Google's mo when it comes to marketing and judging from the text on the displays, it's not highlighting failures.
Not by its name. That's my point.
Well, MS announced rhe Xbox a year before its release. Seems with no hardware and only streaming plus beta testing games, probably won't be out until the Fall 2019, unless they feel extremely confident to release soon.
Ironic that the Dreamcast was actually doing well in the west and poorly in Japan. Opposite of Saturn.
I'm super confused by the items they've chosen to display there and the order in which they are displayed contrasted against the text/dates below. Very weird.
Don't get my hopes up! I'd pay a hefty sum for a PSO1 HD remake with easy online coop...
Exactly what I was thinking some posts above. And thanks for the Project Stream feedback.
Damn this is getting really interesting, maybe more than a "before E3 stream". I still have a bit of doubt about the "all streaming" thing.
Or the "Dreamcast/Powerglove/E.T/Coming Next" display simply means streaming and that's all. ARRRHHHGGG.
Yes, It would make more sence to put items which relate to the floor text.
Even though I use Google services in limited way, personally I don't expect anything good coming out of this event that is gamer friendly. Like Facebook, whatever Google does, free or not, their main goal is to find new ways/devices for data mining to sell more ads. It will advance streaming/networking tech by lot but not without all of us paying in some other terms.
I'm still type of gamer who prefers offline, single player games so all these new talk of the the town super hit games do nothing for me. Sooner or later whole world will have bandwidth caps because that is the easiest way for ISPs to make more money. I am not a fan of streaming only future at all.
I'm still type of gamer who prefers offline, single player games so all these new talk of the the town super hit games do nothing for me. Sooner or later whole world will have bandwidth caps because that is the easiest way for ISPs to make more money. I am not a fan of streaming only future at all.
I'm failing to see who the target market for it is. It certainly works and I'm sure people had a much better time with it in regards to how sensitive to latency they are, but I was the perfect candidate for a service like this, I think. But if you've used a console before or a decent gaming PC, using Project Stream is going to feel like a step back in almost every department.
Edit: Thinking about it a little more, maybe this means that it's not a streaming box..? Like, surely someone at Google would raise the concern of multiplayer titles not working well on the service or at least test it and look for feedback and ways to improve before trying to sell it to the gaming market, right? Bah, I've just got a bad feeling about this.
I'll be watching this. This might honestly be the biggest new entry to gaming since Microsoft and the Xbox. I know we can all imagine yet another lousy set top box that goes nowhere (Ouya syndrome), but if anyone can get out of that rut, it's Google.
I love game pass myself, but that still downloads games to my Xbox. I prefer that over streaming
Googles gaming endeavours have seem like some cool student projects.
I mean in the VR space Googles daydream is barley talked about.
The thing about Google is that everything they do benifits Google and is built around Googles goals.
Gaming is different, gamers will be able to tell very quickly if the majority of the things a company is doing is best for gaming.
I mean in the VR space Googles daydream is barley talked about.
The thing about Google is that everything they do benifits Google and is built around Googles goals.
Gaming is different, gamers will be able to tell very quickly if the majority of the things a company is doing is best for gaming.
Because they're no more "willy-nilly" about it than every other company's abandoned products and cancellations. Just like any other company, they tend to do it when there is low or waining interest. It's not that hard to figure out.
I miss Google Reader too, man.
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