They did show you can be watching a Youtube video about a game and a "Buy" option pops up after the video is finished.
That is quite significant and could be a game changer.
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Google formally unveils the "Stadia" launching in 2019
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They did show you can be watching a Youtube video about a game and a "Buy" option pops up after the video is finished.
That is quite significant and could be a game changer.
The only appeal for streaming to me is being able to shut my xbox or playstation or PC off, and continue my game on a phone or tablet for on the go gaming. I'm not really interested in a service that is just dedicated to streaming only. I want it to be an extension, or an added feature, to my already established home console or PC. I want to still own physical or digital copies of my games that run on local hardware, but just have the option to play on the go. I think XCloud will probably be what I am looking for, and I am sure Playstation has plans to fully flesh out PSNOW as well.
I will reserve judgement for stadia because I want to see what happens at launch.
I will reserve judgement for stadia because I want to see what happens at launch.
They are already doing that for apps on YouTube. Developers will care because this will massively increase the amount of people that can buy and play their games.
"Stadia is actually on par with the Xbox One X being played locally"- Richard Leadbetter, literally there in the video. Maybe actually view the link before replying to the post next time?
And no reason to expect the PC scene is ever going to die because of streaming. This will (eventually) replace consoles, not the hobbyist PC scene.
People spend up to 1500$ on graphics cards to get the best versions of multiplatform games.
A streaming service that promises 60 fps Ultra for every game on the service is something that will excite tens of milliosn of people, even if it launches with Ass Creed Odysee, and a handfull of other games.
Yeah, angry gamers here really don't have nuiance and think every new innovation is a 0 sum game and eventually will take away their precious "traditional gaming" that they have had since the 70s. For next gen I am going more into VR so I will have a Quest for portable, a PSVR2 for my beefy VR, and this I will use for streaming 3rd party games depending on the price. Like you said, although digital/streaming has massively changed the music and movie industries you can still buy fucking vinyls if you want to and even vinyls of modern music.
For the people dismissing the AC jump gif, go look at the demo before that where he's using a mouse. Whats your excuse there?
All I can say is that if game streaming becomes the norm I'm glad I still have the FGC to fall back on. Those dudes wont ever stands for that type of latency.
All I can say is that if game streaming becomes the norm I'm glad I still have the FGC to fall back on. Those dudes wont ever stands for that type of latency.
The only positive I took from this was that Google are requiring devs to support Vulkan and Linux if they want their games to run on Stadia.
Hopefully this sees an uptick in support for games on Linux, especially on day one support of AAA games.
Hopefully this sees an uptick in support for games on Linux, especially on day one support of AAA games.
It's not a marketing speech when it's reality.
I mean the business of traditional gaming hardware is honestly somewhat insane. If you told movie studios every 5-6 years their movies couldn't shown in any existing projector and they had to sit around and wait 2-3 years for a new projector tech to become the norm to get to a reasonably wide audience, every movie studio would throw a fit.
If I'm a publisher and I don't have to wait 3 years into every console cycle for a game to have access to a real mass market, that's a huge win.
Because they will still have a revenue stream from all the salty people in this thread. And is that how you watch netflix, you record it for later or do you just stream it? If you just stream it like the vast majority of netflix users then functionally it is the same.
Controller looks awful...otherwise it's hard to say much without seeing any games, that's what it all comes down to.
I've read hundreds of comments over the three or four threads, and after using Google's Power of the Cloud (TM) to crunch the numbers, I've determined that if you have an anime avatar, this potential new product is probably not for you.
It won't be noticeable on 99% of games. Let's not pretend that every single game is a fighting game or requires crazy low input lag. No one will be doing pro competition on the platform.
Just to clarify: Stadia under optimal conditions (Google fiber connection) had the same latency (and slightly worse with 'only' 15MBps) with game running at 60fps compared to the same game running at 30fps on Xbox.
It will be fine for several genres but MP shooters, fighters, Sekiro etc. will be hampered.
The laws of physics is a bitch.
And the cloud will help here exactly how? Is all about the data. For a youtube video, you can compress the video using data from multiple frames, therefore obtaining a much better image quality with fewer data requirements and the compression algorithm can use all the time in the world to find the optimum compression. Upload a 4k youtube video and see how long it takes to process.
On game streaming, every frame you use for the compression is added lag, since they need to synchronize with the user inputs. Stop selling the cloud like if its magic technology. If they have developer real time algorithms that are so much better than what they are using on youtube, why not use them to improve youtube too then!? They are leaving millions on the table!
Something i just thought about is install base and how google can pitch it to devs as a non existent factor considering how technically everyone can use it.. more devs will support if no hardware is needed.
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EDIT: I'm trying to verify this now, but this is likely being misinterpreted/was me getting bamboozled. Apologies, please disregard.
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Someone bent the truth during a presentation? No way! Come on, folks.
And are you referring to the single tweet that has been posted here? Yeah, I think I'll wait for more in-depth impressions. Feel free to jump on that train though.
I thought in the beta they recorded latency 'in the wild' of 179ms - 166ms on Google's connection would be a 13ms improvement.
In any case, it's masking things a little to compare to the (very laggy) input on the console versions of those games. Not every console game will offer such a flattering comparison. In terms of added latency over the PC version, it's still an added 54ms - in Google's environment. If we were to take it as indicative of in-the-wild performance, it's better than we've seen from services before, but not leaps and bounds better. In other games that kind of gap will make for less favourable comparisons with local games that don't have wonky input latency.
What this does say to other providers though is - fix your input latency. If MS puts the X1 version of AC on their streaming service, it's gonna be an even poorer comparison. Obviously google is going to make sure all their games have as low (local) input latency as they possibly can, so MS and Sony should be doing likewise for the sake of their own streaming services. But I feel like AC might be an outlier point of comparison.
That's not really that impressive. It's running at double the frame rate. Imagine a game like Call of Duty or another 60 FPS console title.
It won't for long if it doesn't have the games the masses play every year. Software is the king at the end of the day, people will only care for so long if it's constantly missing the big releases and has no worthwhile exclusives to make up for it, their 1st party announcement was pretty much nothing, so pretty unlikely they'd do much before the PS5/XB2.
I think that they will start to tell us more now that the cat is officially out of the bag. I couldn't give a crap about pricing right now because there's nothing to buy yet and they didn't ask me to pre-purchase anything and I'm sure that info will be provided in due time. In the meantime, we could *potentially* start to have a meaningful conversation about just what a service like this might be worth paying for, which could in turn be valuable feedback to Google. I am absolutely sure that there's plenty of conversation going on about monetization and all the possible downsides of this service between Google and devs, or did you think they just grabbed a copy of AC:O to dump on the datacenters and let thousands of gamers freeload the experience, without discussing it with Ubisoft or sharing any feedback?
IF you have a legitimate concern about my posting, feel free to bring it up with a Mod and I will be happy to discuss. Otherwise, this is just lazy passive-aggressive ad hominem that should be below Era posting standards.
Steam is already enough of a DRM bother, I don't want to never own any game I play.
I already have to go through much more of a process than I'd like to strip DRM from my ebooks so I can actually own them.
Only reason I'm able to rationalize streaming music is my financial inability to buy all the music I listen to, but I don't have time to play more games than I can afford.
GOG is still the only (modern digital) gaming platform that doesn't make me hurl.
The only silver lining I'm seeing thus far is the push for cross platform, but even then it seems the only time crossplat has happened is either when a company is large enough to force it (Fortnite/Epic Games) or if you're paying for their servers (MMOs like FFXIV).
I already have to go through much more of a process than I'd like to strip DRM from my ebooks so I can actually own them.
Only reason I'm able to rationalize streaming music is my financial inability to buy all the music I listen to, but I don't have time to play more games than I can afford.
GOG is still the only (modern digital) gaming platform that doesn't make me hurl.
The only silver lining I'm seeing thus far is the push for cross platform, but even then it seems the only time crossplat has happened is either when a company is large enough to force it (Fortnite/Epic Games) or if you're paying for their servers (MMOs like FFXIV).
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And this right here is a huge problem for a lot of people.
if they bent the truth in the presentation around the defining aspect of their service... that is not encouraging.
Stadia won't have game installs so no offline play presumably.
It's not yet a consumer product, so no, but I'd expect pretty good, 60 mbps or so, to get good results, though obviously the hgiher the better. Project Stream worked well at 60mbps or so, so I'd expect the final product to probably be a bit better than that. The dev kit currently has a "15mbps low bandwidth" setting, which more or less seems to be for developers to test out gaming scenarios at low bandwidth.
I assume this is from Netflix.com, since the two are the same?
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When I see the logo and name, I think of digital painting software. The trailer is incredibly bland and unimaginative. How a massive corporation like Google couldn't come up with better marketing is beyond me.
That being said, streaming and subscriptions for games don't interest me in the slightest.
That being said, streaming and subscriptions for games don't interest me in the slightest.
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*makes note to never allow teenagers with phone access to use this service
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Why are data caps still a thing there? I can't think of a single reason that makes sense.
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This is the Future, baby! This will be sold next to the cold fusion power supply boxes all over the world!
Thats like 4ķ right. Otherwise yikes.
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They didn't bend the truth around the concept. How many companies playback pre-recorded footage to ensure everything goes off without a hitch? It's representative of the experience.
(I have no clue if this is going to be good or not and have no dog in the fight, but the LMAO LOL OMG FAIL!!!! posts and tweets from Gamers are incredibly silly.)