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MagicDoogies

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Oct 31, 2017
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Yeah it's really unnerving. I don't like the fact there's any defense force for this here

Without divulging much info on myself this is a subject that hits close to home for me so to insist that my KNOWLEDGE on the matter is implicating me is...idk how to put this- hurtful. Please be mindful of that before you accuse me of defending CP.
 

Dust

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Oct 25, 2017
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The memes are top tier honestly.

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Ultima_5

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Oct 25, 2017
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Without divulging much info on myself this is a subject that hits close to home for me so to insist that my KNOWLEDGE on the matter is implicating me is...idk how to put this- hurtful. Please be mindful of that before you accuse me of defending CP.

Well you might want to look more closely at what you're posting about as no one here knows your background or history
 

MagicDoogies

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Oct 31, 2017
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Well you might want to look more closely at what you're posting about as no one here knows your background or history

I shouldnt, and no victim should have to air their trauma to gain validity on a topic at hand. Its a gross trend that has done little good for anyone in the years it became the 'norm'. Being INFORMED on a subject like this shouldnt be treated as a Defense Force or imply that Im a predator as well. Are you fucking kidding me?
 

Ultima_5

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Oct 25, 2017
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I shouldnt, and no victim should have to air their trauma to gain validity on a topic at hand. Its a gross trend that has done little good for anyone in the years it became the 'norm'. Being INFORMED on a subject like this shouldnt be treated as a Defense Force or imply that Im a predator as well. Are you fucking kidding me?
Literally no where in my post did I️ say you should do that. I️ Said you should be aware no one knows where you're coming from and keep that in mind with how you present yourself and info.
 

fadedbones

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Oct 25, 2017
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As someone who has seen this shit overtake fandom, the term is losing its meaning and impact.
Was the article shit? Yeah. I'm still surprised that even got approved to be published to begin with. ESPECIALLY with that 3D model. Is it CP/CSEM? As gross and skeevy as it is? No. Because for it to fall under that category it would require the participation and exploitation of an actual minor for that content to exist. In other words you are distributing actual evidence of an abused child. Trust me- if that shit was the real deal we wouldnt even be here TALKING about this OR, Kotaku OR the writer because they'd be in jail.

Why am I making this distinction? Two weeks ago a minor- 14 year old, on Twitter who ran a popular Twitter cringe account struggle_tweetzz got suspended-and is more than likely being invesitgated for posting actual censored CSEM in a callout post. They dont understand why THIS instance was wrong when they had made similar callout posts over fictional porn. That's because they were told that there is no difference between Misty porn and actual CSEM. The former constantly posted online with zero reprecussions. CP/CSEM are NOT terms that should ever be thrown around lightly.
Call it skeevy. Call it gross. Call it reprehensible and disgusting. But if you are going to claim someone is boosting an actual crime make damn well sure you are using that correctly. HP porn and CSEM are two entirely different beasts and distilling the term to equate the two as one of the same is going to lead to well meaning people getting locked up on charges that will permenantely ruin their future.
Thank you for taking the time to post this, bolded in particular is helping me to make more sense of how I feel on all this.
 

MagicDoogies

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Oct 31, 2017
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Literally no where in my post did I️ say you should do that. I️ Said you should be aware no one knows where you're coming from and keep that in mind with how you present yourself and info.

I tried presenting it as objectively as possible. Even bringing up the instance of actual kids getting into trouble for posting the real thing because its often conflated with fiction only for the person below me to essentially say 'Thats pretty suss you know so much.' So if there is a better way to frame it without announcing to the world I'm a victim in the future I'm all ears.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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Ya back off. All she said was that virtual child porn is not equal to actual child porn since one has an actual victim. Don't just accuse people of shit.
 

Ultima_5

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Oct 25, 2017
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Ya back off. All she said was that virtual child porn is not equal to actual child porn since one has an actual victim. Don't just accuse people of shit.
It's normalizing it and even the fictional stuff is illegal in many parts of the world (including Canada where I️ believe she's based in)
 

Paquete_PT

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Oct 27, 2017
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Literally no where in my post did I️ say you should do that. I️ Said you should be aware no one knows where you're coming from and keep that in mind with how you present yourself and info.

Keep in mind that some of the themes people discuss on this forum might hit close to home and some posters might not want to get too personal or open-up too much when talking about somethings because it might be a sensible topic to them. Maybe the onus should be on us to not deliberately accuse people with the presumption that we know them and that they're ill-intended.
 
Oct 25, 2017
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It's normalizing it and even the fictional stuff is illegal in many parts of the world (including Canada where I️ believe she's based in)
It might be. It's something that involves mental issues and other stuff I'm not equipped to talk about. There's barely any research on how it effects people. My hope is that it keeps people from trying to get the real thing, but it may promote it.
 

MagicDoogies

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Oct 31, 2017
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User Banned (3 Months): Whataboutism around sexualised imagery of minors, pedantry on the topic over multiple posts
It's normalizing it and even the fictional stuff is illegal in many parts of the world (including Canada where I️ believe she's based in)
There are studies spanning decades that have said that is false. We just went through this with videogames normalizing violence irl with GTA being the star of the show. Culture, society, and decades- hell centuries long propoganda normalizes things. Otherwise we should all be frighteningly concerned about the popularity of GoT.
 

Sande

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Oct 25, 2017
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The furry yelling is bizarre given how common cutesy anthropomorphic animals are in animation.