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Good luck to any developer doing crowd-sourcing after this year
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Shenmue 3 crowdfunding was always a bait and switch to begin with considering it was on Sony's stage and publishers were ready to strike deals tbh.
How do you fucking...
I can understand "changing your mind" on Steam support, but not after promising KEYS for it...
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I can't imagine crowdsourcing is the draw for funding that it once was anyway. Not sticking up for bullshitter Tim, but at least Shenmue III is releasing, you know? For every project that sees a final release, how many Unsung Stories are there?
This. If you back a kickstarter announced on stage at an event that costs millions to run... you can't really complain...
I mean, it's not like most PC players are the demographic for this one I imagine, but sure it's stupid.
Why? It released and was a solid game. Plenty other worse offenders like all the projects that still have no light at the end of the tunnel.
There has always been risks with kick starter, there will continue to be risks with kick starter. this is just another one... Personally I've never backed a project because I don't want to risk my money in that way, but I buy many things on release.
Shit was tainted after Mighty Number 9 to be honest.
I'll give that game credit in that it actually came out. Most kickstarters can't say the same and are just scams. None of the games I kickstarted have come out yet, though one is close to it (Bloodstained). I'm still mad about the System Shock remake.
I'll give that game credit in that it actually came out. Most kickstarters can't say the same and are just scams. None of the games I kickstarted have come out yet, though one is close to it (Bloodstained). I'm still mad about the System Shock remake.
This. You are funding a game prior to pretty much any publishing details are in place. There are no guarantees. It's pretty shitty, and once again shows how shitty Tim and Epic are.
People need to stop treating kickstarter like any other kind of preorder.
This too.
This too.
Dunno why this thread exists when there's already a thread about Shemue III going to Epic Games Store (but the Kickstarter page never said anything about Steam or Steam Keys).
When only one person seemingly stuck with fans...
Kinda crazy that Bloodstained is almost in a crowd of one with Microsoft buying Fig pushers or Epic literally moneyhatting the rest.
Still has problems, and the game isn't out yet, with the Linux/Mac release being canned and backers not being able to get a refund, and the whole "exclusive content" that isn't really exclusive.
People can say all day that KS isn't a guarantee of anything, but it takes being affected for most people to "get it" which is why I thought Mighty No 9, even with the game coming out, with the backer delays and quality of the game, probably opened a lot of people's eyes in terms of the "value" of backing something.
This. Kickstarter is essentially gambling in that you're giving your money for an unknown product.
Even ignoring Steam, literally no one backed this thinking it would be exclusively on the Epic Games Store considering the store didn't even *exist* until 6 months ago.
Not related to Shenmue 3 but did the Wasteland 3 developers ever clarify their stance regarding PS4 copies for Wasteland 3? That was something that was mentioned/featured in their campaign. I'm only asking now with Microsoft buying up the developers and all that. It would be a really scummy move and further scorch the earth for any other developer trying to crowd-source money.
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Yall should have seen this shit coming when sony announced this was coming console exclueively to PS4 at their E3 show and then told y'all to fund it with kickstarter
How many times do people who actually backed Shenmue need to post proof that this isn't true before people stop repeating this outright lie?
Imagine their terror when their single player game requires them to install one piece of software to launch it. Truly the end of times.
Platform wars are a new thing for third-party PC games. This wasn't a thing before EGS came along.
I don't blame people if they stop backing projects.
As someone who's a kickstarting novice (having never engaged it in myself), what is the risk the consumer takes? My understanding was that folks could bail out whenever they want (on the big kickstarting platforms anyway) and recoup their funds.
It's still a good way to get MS to buy you so there is still that. MS also let the devs honour commitments.
I honestly feel like I'm one of the few 30+ year old gamers on era whenever EGS talk like this happens. I'm old enough to remember the outrage around Steam, it was 10 times worse than this and eventually people got over it.
This. People don't read KS terms of service I guess.
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