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mindatlarge · Nov 9, 2017

BlaineStarJoe said:
is the final boss/ tournament punishing to the player? I read a Waypoint article (https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...boss-prevents-you-from-beating-the-effin-game) discussing general frustration, considering the poorly communicated ball elevation and random wind elements. I'll still finish it (i'm probably half way through), but just curious if anyone shares the thoughts in the article.

I looked at it this way, since you find out soon enough that the condition to win the last course is getting

par (yes you can win the course with a tie)

At least you know what you're aiming for, and if you mess up, you can just reset and try again.

The last course can get frustrating as there is a spike in difficulty as Patrick points out, at least I would consider it one as well, but the game does give you sufficient tools to negate the challenges of the last course. It wasn't easy for me though, think it took some where in the ballpark of 10-15 attempts. I would say if the game is at fault, it's for letting the player mostly get away with not using some of the mechanics that are crucial for the last course for most of the game.

Rodney McKay · Nov 9, 2017

Bán said:
You know what? I really liked the game but that's a fair summary. The script is indeed the best part, but the golf is weak, the tasks the game sets you are mechanically basic and the courses themselves aren't great designs and can indeed be annoying with overly narrow fairways designed to cover for the fact that it's nearly impossible to mishit a shot. Add the bugs and I can certainly see someone giving it a 5.

Same here, I love the game a lot, but by about the time I hit the old people golf course I started to feel like the game was a bit too long. I think I'm finally at the last course but I haven't played it in a long time, but I intend to get back to it now I beat Mario.

The mechanics don't really seem to evolve too much, most new clubs aren't hugely different, and I don't find the leveling up system to be very meaningful either (I can hit a little further, but that's about it). One mechanic I miss from Mario Golf is pressing A+B or B+A really quick on you last meter hit in order to make the ball spin backwards or roll forward a larger amount, it was a little risky to pull off, but it gave you great control over the ball. I know you can choose where you hit the ball in this game, but I only ever seem to need that to avoid trees.

Even still I would absolutely love a sequel to this game. Flesh out the mechanics, maybe do some more fun stuff with the clubs, make the curves on the green like most golf games do it so you can see it, not just an arrow, and maybe tighten the game up a bit length-wise (or at least make more of the stuff optional instead of forcing you to do so much stuff before progressing).

exodus · Nov 9, 2017

Had my first try at Blue Dunes. Match play. Doesn't seem that hard? The flat greens definitely reward hitting the greens.

Using Pro Woods and the enhanced Wellworn Irons.

exodus · Nov 9, 2017

Okay
..full course is harder. Harder greens.

But holy shit...just sank a hole in on hole 4....a Par 4. Bounced off the turtle and wrnt straight in.

Opa-Pa · Nov 9, 2017

exodus said:
Had my first try at Blue Dunes. Match play. Doesn't seem that hard? The flat greens definitely reward hitting the greens.

Using Pro Woods and the enhanced Wellworn Irons.

The match with Junior I beat on my second try, but the actual championship is a nightmare. I've won every single one the first try but my first go at this one I ended up with 12, and now I can only consistently do like 3 birdies and everything else is a part or double/triple bogey, I suck :(

D23 · Nov 9, 2017

I hate oak manor. that is all.

Opa-Pa · Nov 9, 2017

Dem pumpkins.

exodus · Nov 9, 2017

Tried playing the course on my own.

Pirateluigi · Nov 9, 2017

For anyone having trouble with the last tournament, I recommend making ample use of the Tee Up ability. Being able to recover from deep rough means you can be a lot more aggressive in how you approach holes.

Karish · Nov 9, 2017

Any word on a patch for this? Heard of bugs and have stayed away for now

Chylo · Nov 9, 2017

Has anyone else caught the reference to Mark Crossfield? "Let's get stuck in!"

Putosaure · Nov 9, 2017

Karish said:
Any word on a patch for this? Heard of bugs and have stayed away for now

Patch was released today.

Karish · Nov 9, 2017

Putosaure said:
Patch was released today.

That explains the thread bump :)

Putosaure · Nov 9, 2017

Karish said:
That explains the thread bump :)

Yeah, I was waiting for the patch to get the game... it's downloading now ! This and the Stardew Valley patch submitted, it's a good day !

BizzyBum · Nov 9, 2017

This was such a great game. Beat it at 20 hours. Now I just hope we get some DLC or even a full fledged sequel at some point.

SinCityAssassin · Nov 9, 2017

BizzyBum said:
This was such a great game. Beat it at 20 hours. Now I just hope we get some DLC or even a full fledged sequel at some point.

They're making a new Switch game as we speak. Probably not a sequel though they're busy coordinating the Japanese release

Deleted member 7092 · Nov 9, 2017

I really want to see those patch notes (or at least a fan-compiled changelog) before buying!

Has anyone here noticed any differences post-patch?

Deleted member 2145 · Nov 9, 2017

Putosaure said:
Patch was released today.

hell fucking yes

Amanobuff · Nov 9, 2017

Amazing game. It is also the first Switch game that made me go WOW at their incredible implementation of HD rumble.

BorkBork · Nov 9, 2017

SinCItyAssassin said:
They're making a new Switch game as we speak. Probably not a sequel though they're busy coordinating the Japanese release

Tennis story? :)

OnanieBomb · Nov 9, 2017

Patch dropped just in time for a business trip, cool.

GDGF · Nov 9, 2017

I beat this a little while ago and want to use the patch as an excuse to replay, but I never ran into any memorable bugs.

SpartyCrunch · Nov 9, 2017

Amanobuff said:
Amazing game. It is also the first Switch game that made me go WOW at their incredible implementation of HD rumble.

And it's in the dialog boxes!

Seriously, I never thought that a game could have such amazing dialog boxes.

PKrockin · Nov 9, 2017

This game's not bad once you mute the horrible music. Really easy for a Mario Golf vet with the hazards being really easy to hit out of and the holes must be like 3 feet wide. But a decent substitute until we get another RPG Mario Golf (haha that will never happen)

I still have no idea what Strike and Ability do. I've looked it up on several forums but the people I could find answering this question seemed to have no idea what they were talking about. They said Purity was just how off your shot will be if you mistime your second A button press, when it's clearly describing the natural curvature of your shot with perfect timing. It even mentions draw and fade. Strike and Ability, though, talking about "% accuracy" and "degree control"? That's really vague. I'm thinking maybe Strike makes the timing for perfect shots on the second A button press more forgiving, and maybe Ability increases the effect of the X button aiming on the ball, whatever it's called?

Rodney McKay · Nov 9, 2017

GDGF said:
I beat this a little while ago and want to use the patch as an excuse to replay, but I never ran into any memorable bugs.

Only bugs I ran into was getting stuck in Galf (ball went way out of bounds and couldn't get to the start menu like the OP mentions, restarting fixed it), and before one of the tournaments the character got out of bed and got stuck and couldn't move (again had to restart which fixed it).

But it'll be nice to know I can finish the last stretch of the game with less likelyhood of something bad happening.

newmoneytrash · Nov 9, 2017

Boy Wander said:
Rough synopsis:
"Plenty to like, particularly the script, but it feels overlong + padded out and it's charms are obscured by busywork, repetition and irritation. Often it's not obvious what to do next and ends up trial and error. Courses seem designed to annoy rather than enthral"

Yeah, I can see that. I still don't agree, but I can definitely understand how someone would get to that opinion

BlaineStarJoe said:
is the final boss/ tournament punishing to the player? I read a Waypoint article (https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...boss-prevents-you-from-beating-the-effin-game) discussing general frustration, considering the poorly communicated ball elevation and random wind elements. I'll still finish it (i'm probably half way through), but just curious if anyone shares the thoughts in the article.

There is a difficulty spike in the last tournament for sure, but I don't think there is anything poorly communicated. It's just harder

Larrikin · Nov 10, 2017

Save for Zelda this is my favourite game on the Switch. So fun, so much flavour, just an absolute joy for the entirety of its ~20 hour run. Excited to play it all over again in a year or so when there are patches. Looking forward to a sequel or dlc or really just whatever project Sidebar works on next.

dyne · Nov 10, 2017

The patch did nothing for Hallowed Hills except for maybe the wrong water decal surrounding a green. I tried ten more times. Every time I play I screw something else up. It's infuriating. I must have tried this course hundreds of times now.

Dunban · Nov 10, 2017

I'm enjoying it (the writing is hilarious, watching the roast scene on the train had me looking like an idiot trying to suppress my laughter) but damn, the glitchiness is real.

Deleted member 7092 · Nov 10, 2017

So it's still glitchy even post-patch?

That's quite a shame, but there are more than enough other games to keep me busy until patch two.

I feel for the devs, I'm sure QA is a nightmare for such a small crew!

Maiden Voyage · Nov 11, 2017

BlaineStarJoe said:
is the final boss/ tournament punishing to the player? I read a Waypoint article (https://waypoint.vice.com/en_us/art...boss-prevents-you-from-beating-the-effin-game) discussing general frustration, considering the poorly communicated ball elevation and random wind elements. I'll still finish it (i'm probably half way through), but just curious if anyone shares the thoughts in the article.

I just read the article by Patrick. He is exactly where I left off and exactly why I left off. I am so conflicted on the game. It does so many things absolutely right that it's so disappointing that the bugs and the last tournament leave such a bad aftertaste. It's been weeks since I last launched the game. I would love to beat it, but I don't even know if I care to anymore.

gingerbeardman · Nov 11, 2017

Pirateluigi said:
For anyone having trouble with the last tournament, I recommend making ample use of the Tee Up ability. Being able to recover from deep rough means you can be a lot more aggressive in how you approach holes.

This and generally making sure you're using clubs that are decent.

Opa-Pa · Nov 11, 2017

I honestly didn't expect many bugs outside of Galf freezing, but the last course was so overwhelmingly difficult that I abandoned the game... Guess I'll give it one more try now that it got patched.

Edit: Never mind guys, I did it!

The patch didn't change anything outside of bugs it seems, but I got serious and tweaked my stats and changed my gear and it sure did the trick. This was my setup for anyone else having trouble:

(the wellworn club is the modified one).

But yeah I adored this game. I absolutely hated the last championship for weeks but ironically, after I finally beat it I ended up wishing the difficulty balance was more like that through the entire game. It was the only course where I felt I actually earned my victory and it was pretty damn satisfying.

Also, I was dumb and never realized there were more skills than just focus mode. Tee up made the difference in the last hole and almost got an eagle thanks to it.

gingerbeardman · Nov 12, 2017

Nicely done!

パンダさん · Nov 12, 2017

Just beat this game, it's pretty good.
Now I'm doing some side stuff'

I need the Galf Seasons Cartridge, I've read that it's in the Blacksmith house in Oak Manor, but the door is locked.
Where do I find the key?

EDIT: Found it! Under the gravestone right below the blacksmith house.

Opa-Pa · Nov 12, 2017

Sad reacts only.

Greekboy™ · Nov 13, 2017

Just finished this game too. Best shot was on the last Par 6 hole on Bermuda Isles that I nailed in two shots.

HeySeuss · Nov 13, 2017

Wait people are having trouble with the last tournament? How?

I didn't even know there were buffs (tee up, focus, power, etc) you could put on your swing until I had already beat the game and someone mentioned it in the thread at the other place. The golf portion of this game is ridiculously easy. The game is good and fun but the only part that gave me difficulty was the putting challenge on the last world with the severe greens. Other than that, first or second try for pretty much everything.

exodus · Nov 14, 2017

First try at the last tourney. Thought it was going to go bad after the first hole but I really brought it back!

Now I just need to finish the cache sidequest I think.

TheLastYoshi · Nov 14, 2017

How much RPG is in this game? It's not favorite genre, the only one I've ever finished is Pokemon R/B.

tsab · Nov 14, 2017

SuperBardiBros said:
How much RPG is in this game? It's not favorite genre, the only one I've ever finished is Pokemon R/B.

Yeah i am not a super RPG guy but I actually love'd it. It has the right amount of RPG for me, and just like you I have only finished Pkmn R/B and Emerald.
I'd say it's 50/50 (it's been a month since i touched it) or maybe 60-40 in favour of RPG quests. IMHO is less RPG than Pokemon you'd be ok
You can take a break from the RPG part play Golf courses almost whenever you want though

TheLastYoshi · Nov 14, 2017

tsab said:
Yeah i am not a super RPG guy but I actually love'd it. It has the right amount of RPG for me, and just like you I have only finished Pkmn R/B and Emerald.
I'd say it's 50/50 (it's been a month since i touched it) or maybe 60-40 in favour of RPG quests. IMHO is less RPG than Pokemon you'd be ok
You can take a break from the RPG part play Golf courses almost whenever you want though

ah ok, that sounds like it would be right up my alley then, thanks!

TheLastYoshi · Nov 14, 2017

by the way... quick follow-up but how grindy do the rpg elements get? That's really the main reason I get turned off. Is the combat turn-based?

Bear · Nov 14, 2017

SuperBardiBros said:
by the way... quick follow-up but how grindy do the rpg elements get? That's really the main reason I get turned off. Is the combat turn-based?

I guess technically it's turn based because there is no combat and it's golf.

HeySeuss said:
Wait people are having trouble with the last tournament? How?

I didn't even know there were buffs (tee up, focus, power, etc) you could put on your swing until I had already beat the game and someone mentioned it in the thread at the other place. The golf portion of this game is ridiculously easy. The game is good and fun but the only part that gave me difficulty was the putting challenge on the last world with the severe greens. Other than that, first or second try for pretty much everything.

I think I won by like 7 strokes. It was a piece of cake for me.

Opa-Pa · Nov 14, 2017

SuperBardiBros said:
by the way... quick follow-up but how grindy do the rpg elements get? That's really the main reason I get turned off. Is the combat turn-based?

The game is an RPG in the sense that there's an overworld that directs you to different maps, there's NPCs to talk to and get side quests from and there's a level up system with very simple stat allocation, but that's it. Think of it like an adventure game where instead of solving puzzles by clicking on stuff, you do it with golf mechanics.

You also play golf, of course. But there's no grinding, turn based combat or anything like that.

SpartyCrunch · Nov 14, 2017

Opa-Pa said:

So I already beat this game a while ago including the final championship, but seeing this image made me realize I handled leveling up completely differently.

When I increased my power, I saw all of the other stats change. but if I added directly to those other stats too, to keep them in the middle - isn't that what you're supposed to do?

It's not super intuitive to me whether "+50% accuracy" and "+18 degree control" and "+250RPM" is a good thing...

Opa-Pa · Nov 14, 2017

I kinda handled it like you too but when I got stuck in the final championship I tried different builds like that one to see if that would help. I'm not completely sure what purity is, I think it's how much stuff like wind affects your shots? Accuracy is definitely good to have it as high as possible though, it determines how precise you have to be when hitting the ball, so the higher it is, the less strict it is.

Anyway I nailed the putting challenge right after I posted the last screenshot and with that I finished the game 100%. Had a great time, I'll definitely keep an eye on whatever Sidebar Games decides to make next.

Jeff Albertson · Nov 14, 2017

Hooray I can finally move on from tidy park

This is a perfect game to play on the train

Hootenanny · Nov 14, 2017

Man. Getting stuck in Tidy Park really ruined my plan to finish this before Stardew. TOO MANY GAMES

Phabh · Nov 15, 2017

This game seems cute and different but since EDGE is my favorite review outlet, I'm concerned by the score they gave.
Here's the verdict:

"There's plenty to like here - the script almost justifies a playthrough by itself - but it's a little overlong, a little padded out, it's obvious charms soon obscured by busywork, repetition and irritation"

5

How true is it?

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