probably not but these websites matching your dna to other family members is a fairly recent thing. i can honestly believe nobody had thought of it before until the zodiac case made it a known tool to use.
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Golden State Killer suspect arrested in forty year old case (UP: Pleading guilty)
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Basically. We think. General-ish consensus is that this article isn't very well written, but this isn't as similar to the GSK method as the beginning of the article makes it sound.
I read I'll Be Gone in the Dark. Really incredible journey to work this stuff out. Highly recommended!
Crazy detail in here. The police chief that fired him for shoplifting (back in 79) was threatened by DeAngelo, and his daughter reported a prowler outside her window that flashed a flashlight in her eyes around the same time. It's one thing that made Holes think they had the right guy.
Against the wishes of the defense, a judge allowed the request to photograph the suspect naked to verify one way or another if he has a tiny penis.
It wasn't a statement made in malice. It's a mentally and emotionally taxing job.
Nah, he could easily be alive. He'd be in his late 70s or early 80s, but he could still be around.
He has now been officially charged with the 4 Santa Barbara murders. Santa Barbara was criticized for their handling of these murders:
http://abc7news.com/watch-live-susp...charged-with-4-more-counts-of-murder/3456323/
http://abc7news.com/watch-live-susp...charged-with-4-more-counts-of-murder/3456323/
According to DeAngelo's nephew, he witnessed his younger sister get raped by two men when he was 9-10 years old.
DeAngelo also grew up in an abusive household where his father would assault his mother. After DeAngelo's parents were divorced, DeAngelo's father left and raised another family in South Korea. DeAngelo's father named his second set of children the same names as his first set of children.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/skbaer/the...d-two-men-rape?utm_term=.dc5pq1BRx#.era5ZWMQX
DeAngelo also grew up in an abusive household where his father would assault his mother. After DeAngelo's parents were divorced, DeAngelo's father left and raised another family in South Korea. DeAngelo's father named his second set of children the same names as his first set of children.
https://www.buzzfeed.com/skbaer/the...d-two-men-rape?utm_term=.dc5pq1BRx#.era5ZWMQX
Unrelated to the GSK case, but they found another killer using the same method:
Investigators use DNA, genealogy database to ID suspect in 1987 double homicide
Investigators use DNA, genealogy database to ID suspect in 1987 double homicide
More than 30 years after a young Canadian woman was raped and shot in the back of the head, a 55-year-old SeaTac man was arrested Thursday in connection with her death after DNA found at the crime scene was used to map the suspect's family tree, according to the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office.
Man, I bet there are criminals who had thought they had gotten away with it that areare clinch their cheeks together right now.
Unrelated to the GSK case, but they found another killer using the same method:
Investigators use DNA, genealogy database to ID suspect in 1987 double homicide
More than 30 years after a young Canadian woman was raped and shot in the back of the head, a 55-year-old SeaTac man was arrested Thursday in connection with her death after DNA found at the crime scene was used to map the suspect's family tree, according to the Snohomish County Sheriff's Office.
This is amazing and awesome. The more this happens the less likely actual crime happens right? We should get everyone's dna in a database and be able to pluck it in these murder cases.
A slippery slope I know but a man can dream
I think that is far beyond a slippery slope. That is a straight up nose dive into a dystopian hellscape.
They have not found me guilty of any murder yet.
I think there is something though in taking DNA after someone passes away and use it for 1:1 matches. Haven't fully thought it out yet. But think that might solve cold cases and bring closure for victims and next of kin.
We found that the unarmed black male we shot in his car was actually totally a murderer. Trust me I'm a cop.
DNA + genealogical website used to solve another cold case murder from 32 years ago:
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/cold-case-killing-1986/index.html
https://edition.cnn.com/2018/06/22/us/cold-case-killing-1986/index.html
Neither did the Golden State Killer. All it takes is for a relative to submit some.
Don't murder people or rape people and you're probably safe.
So a smart serial killer should start with relatives first.
So, have we gotten any details yet? Been a couple of months and I feel like we've heard nothing. Where has he been, what has done, for all these years?
Supposedly he's still not talking, he's not a BTK-type talker unfortunately. Everything I've read so far points to him playing games and dragging this out, I wouldn't be surprised if he doesn't end up killing himself at some point, not unlike Israel Keyes.
I believe there was no DNA recovered from the Zodiac. Id imagine Zodiac is another BTK type.
EARONS is far more fascinating. He is the Visalia Ransacker and a fair amount believe is also the Cordova Cat. It is an unprecedented amount of successful break ins. Blows my mind how lucky this guy got.
There is some DNA evidence from the Zodiac, at the very least they have saliva samples from the stamps from some of the letters.
Joseph DeAngelo would plead guilty for lifetime sentence, defense team says
The defense team of Joseph DeAngelo has verified that the accused murderer has offered to plead guilty to the charges against him if he could get a lifetime sentence.
www.kcra.com
Joseph DeAngelo would plead guilty for lifetime sentence, defense team says
He probably ain't got much time left anyway. He's still going to be shipped off to stand trial for the other murders (Central Valley and SoCal iirc) right?
Haha, I just picked up a copy from the library the other night. Not too far into it but I expecting things to get pretty grim.
This piece of shit will die in prison. They are trying to get more samples of DNA off him to identify other murders.
I still wonder if he is connected to the hitchhiker murders in my hometown of Santa Rosa, CA.
I still wonder if he is connected to the hitchhiker murders in my hometown of Santa Rosa, CA.
Here's the LAT article about it, but no new info other than some victim quotes.
www.latimes.com
She has the right idea.
This goes into more details.
Golden State Killer suspect would plead guilty if death penalty is off the table, lawyers say
The statement from the public defenders representing DeAngelo says, 'He has offered to plead to the charges with a lifetime sentence.'
www.latimes.com
She has the right idea.
This goes into more details.
Certainly the subject matter is very distressing. But a good chunk of the book (at least in the first half) focuses on McNamara's own childhood and development as a person obsessed with killers, such that it winds up being a poignant self-eulogy. It's painful reading Gillian Flynn's introduction as she makes peace with the notion that GSK's true identity may never be revealed.
Off topic:
He could be in his 80's but a good chance just based on age he would be dead by now.
The DNA they did have was sent to a lab to try to get a profile to then do the same ancestry search as in this case. I believe that was in 2018 so it feels like that has taken too long without any updates. Problem with Zodiac is their is barely any physical evidence and none that can be 100% confirmed to be from the letter writer. Palm prints on letters that were opened and touched by many people, saliva on the back of stamps are more likely to be him but conceivable he got others to do it. They didn't have enough dna from stamps to previously make a match only to rule out against possible suspects. Then there there is a partial bloody finger print, but could have easily been from a first responder.
What they need is samples of saliva from stamps from different letters that match or a palm impression from two different letters that match. From everything that has been talked about over 50 years it doesn't seem like they have anywhere close to that. Mountains of circumstantial evidence and handwriting, which depending on the expert can be great or worthless. IMO it would be really odd if he didn't mask his handwriting which could explain inconsistencies between letters.
But yeah very unlikely he gets caught, EARONS they had a lot more DNA to make a profile out of, hope he rots in jail and the victims get some small comfort from it.
