Did people bitch and whine when he let Frieza go too, like Raditz? Or was Toriyama being a fanboy of himself too? What's new about this? I dont even read Super, but this is who Goku is. Why are people shocked?
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Yes, because a large part of his development on Super was to get him to not do stuff like this.
YOU GOTTA BE FUCKING KIDDING ME!!!
they should've just given Vegeta the win; that bs with him absorbing Seven-three was stupid enough....
they should've just given Vegeta the win; that bs with him absorbing Seven-three was stupid enough....
But why is one story element being repeated okay and the other is not? And you say that Goku just mastered Ultra Instinct or whatever? The Goku everyone knows would absolutely not pass up the chance to test out this new power, like with Gohan's hidden potential way back when. I would go as far as to say that it would be out of character to let this chance slip away.
isn't Super just illustrated by Toyotarou and the story is done by Toriyama?
atleast that is what wikipedia says:
en.wikipedia.org
en.wikipedia.org
atleast that is what wikipedia says:
Toyotarou - Wikipedia
Dragon Ball Super - Wikipedia
Buu being plot relevant and Yamcha blitzing some jobbers were the highlights of this arc, can't really say I remember much of the rest fondly.
If you actually expect Goku you to actually develop as a character then I have a bridge in North Korea to sell you.
Dragon Ball has never truly been the story that develops its main character.
"that's just how it is"Hopefully there's significant rewrites, I mean the anime team are the ones responsible of making characters like Kefla loved and popular..Let us never forget how Toyotaro treated the first ever female Super Saiyans...
Imagine being that much of a fanboy that you just turn the first powerful female Saiyan into a Z character fellatio
smh
He's had some developments, they're more subtle than those of Vegeta and Piccolo, but they're there. It's why I consider his last line in the Broly movie the best development he's had in years, as he finally embraced his Saiyan name (not his heritage, he already accepted that a long time ago) and owned it, at least in the original Japanese version of the line which was "Son Goku and... Kakarot" as a reply to what his name was, unlike the English dub where they had him specifically say "but Broly, call me Kakarot".
this would be a "goku gonna goku" moment but there's a little detail
i already tought the Moro arc went to shit when he became the usual db villain instead of the old goat he was but this is a step further lol
a character sacrificed himself to permanently damage Moro, negating his absorption abilities and goku just make his sacrifice useless
i already tought the Moro arc went to shit when he became the usual db villain instead of the old goat he was but this is a step further lol
What's the problem here. This is entirely inline with Goku as a character.
Wants to see the good in everyone
Will put everything at risk for a good fight cause he's basically chasing the dragon
Willingly has healed multiple villains despite the threat because he's overconfident
He did this with Freiza and Cell. It's par for the course. If it was Vegeta he would have fucked erased moro.
Wants to see the good in everyone
Will put everything at risk for a good fight cause he's basically chasing the dragon
Willingly has healed multiple villains despite the threat because he's overconfident
He did this with Freiza and Cell. It's par for the course. If it was Vegeta he would have fucked erased moro.
Well, he beat up the main villain and held the key to overcoming his magic. It's not my fault they decided to put him to sleep again and resort to another Saiyan punchathon.
The Moro Arc is absolute trash.
Remember like a year ago The Dai Kaio fought Moro? Completely irrelevant now. It should have ended there.
They power up Vegeta with new abilities for no benefit. Moro is just another typical enemy that absorbs power for his own benefit.
Remember Majin Buu who was supposed to be the greatest threat to the Kais and the universe who ever existed? Guess what? Moro is only 1000x stronger than that threat.
Now I guess Goku can do UI on demand. Now they will need to come up with villains way more powerful than UI Goku. They just couldn't wait to bring back UI and waste it on someone as shit as Moro.
Remember like a year ago The Dai Kaio fought Moro? Completely irrelevant now. It should have ended there.
They power up Vegeta with new abilities for no benefit. Moro is just another typical enemy that absorbs power for his own benefit.
Remember Majin Buu who was supposed to be the greatest threat to the Kais and the universe who ever existed? Guess what? Moro is only 1000x stronger than that threat.
Now I guess Goku can do UI on demand. Now they will need to come up with villains way more powerful than UI Goku. They just couldn't wait to bring back UI and waste it on someone as shit as Moro.
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Because one is repeating a theme, the other is just repackaging something you think your fanbase cares about and expecting praise for it.
The repetition is done right down to Goku tricking Krillin into giving him a Senzu AGAIN.
The theme of Goku sparing his opponents is not the problem here, it's the 1:1 repetition of a popular scene to try and get high fives from fans. Only this time he went for a scene popular for BEING DUMB.
Not unlike Star Wars, since we have the whole "Toyotaro is JJ Abrams" Joke going it could work as an example.
Original: A boy lives in the dessert, finds his way into adventure after coming across a droid filled with information that will defeat the Empire.
Prequel: A boy lives in the dessert, finds his way into adventure after coming across a wise Jedi and a Princess, then competing for his freedom
Sequel: A girl lives in the dessert, finds her way into adventure after coming across a droid filled with information that will defeat the Empire.
One plays off a theme, the other is a straight up rehash
The Anime has been significantly different from the Manga from the start.
They're basically 2 separate things
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oh come the fuck on... not even gonna bother watching this shit when they make the anime version.
I just hope the reason we didn't hear anything from the anime for this long is because they do their own thing and abandon everything that has to do with this trash manga.
Hopefully there's significant rewrites, I mean the anime team are the ones responsible of making characters like Kefla loved and popular..Let us never forget how Toyotaro treated the first ever female Super Saiyans...
Imagine being that much of a fanboy that you just turn the first powerful female Saiyan into a Z character fellatio
Kefla and Caulifa are my two favourites. But I can see what he is going for with his ToP.
- ToP anime - spectacle and amazing prolonged fights.
- ToP Manga - Power scaled fights.
Kefla would never be as powerful as SSJ Blue Goku. Ever. Universe's 6 power growth was amazing but super ridiculous.
Manga had some good moment. Kale wrecking shop in intelligence and power. Kefla and Gohan would be equals in power imo.
He didn't die. He literally got erased. The dead still exist. Thats worse than dying.
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Ah yes, turning your first female Super Saiyan character into a doormat sucking up to the greatness of a man and resigning herself to die without a fight is ok because the power levels are scaled....
C'mon
And you can't tell me the "Power levels are scaled" after this...
ah you know what I mean lol. I guess I should have said sacrifice himself
Goku is consistently a moron and terrible father. This is in line with his character.
It's still bad writing.
It's still bad writing.
Ok, this is extremely dumb. With Cell I kinda see why he gave him one, even though it was still stupid. He wanted a fair fight since Gohan was going in fresh into the fight.
This is on another level though. Goku got his ass beat just as much as Moro and came back with a win. Why in the hell do you want to restart the fight with a fully healed enemy and not being in top form yourself?
This is on another level though. Goku got his ass beat just as much as Moro and came back with a win. Why in the hell do you want to restart the fight with a fully healed enemy and not being in top form yourself?