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Goku comes to the mcu to become the best fighter in the universe , Can he do it?
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He can? Are we ever shown him doing anything close to destroying a universe?
His physical form is made of mystic energy.....its effectively intangible if he desires it to be. But in actuality he is just an entity not a thing you can just say ohh hey I will punch this till ive completely wasted it.
Actually "punching" him is a waste of time.
Dormammu is from the Dark Dimension.
Destroying him here (how Goku could destory mystic energies is beyond me) he would still be in DD....and just keep coming back.
If Goku goes to the Dark Dimension to fight.....GG.
Fighting an entire universe is an asspull even by Dragonball standards.
And I say again....Goku and crew couldnt take on Endless Zamasu what makes you think they could take on someone like Dormammu?
Dormammu is a multiversal threat....Goku aint tanking Dormammu.
He posts on forums.....Superboy Prime can do whatever the fuck he wants because forum posters are clearly gods.
He'd leave Carol on King Kai's planet. Then we'd get a filler episode where Carol Danvers tries to convince King Kai to help her get back while they have tea with Bubbles and Gregory. That's the stuff I'm really here for.
Yeah, but destroying a galaxy is an exponentially smaller feat then destroying a universe, something that as far as I know Berrus can't even do. That and dragon ball universes are weird. They're significantly smaller than in really life and by extension the MCU.
But is Dormammu immune to a Spirit Bomb powered by a multiverse worth of people?
And dormammu will wait around and watch him power up for a century?
How would you hit him with it? Also are there enough people to match the energy of a whole universe? You guys are really underestimating how big he is. He's infinite. A multiverse of people is finite.
How would he even grab him to take him out?
It is how it works, it's just that you put an arbitrary restriction on the hypothetical that he can't get back out of the MCU. Power wise, you're right. Carol is pretty limitless right now in MCU.
1v1 would be nuts and this premise would be a great animated movie.
And this is kinda where I was going. Give me a 13 episode season of this, Disney+, TIA
Goku will have an asspull for someone like Dormammu as would any MCU people fighting him. It's how the hero always wins.
Goku can use his button to summon Zen O to come and just erase dormamu from existance to begin with. The world of Dragonball is so absurd given it started as a gag manga that he could take on all of the MCU characters at once most likely.
Heck, Arale could probably fuck up the MCU with her gag manga powers.
Goku can use his button to summon Zen O to come and just erase dormamu from existance to begin with. The world of Dragonball is so absurd given it started as a gag manga that he could take on all of the MCU characters at once most likely.
Heck, Arale could probably fuck up the MCU with her gag manga powers.
The saiyan ability to get stronger after every fight is overpowered. Give Goku enough fights against people who don't outright kill him, and he could eventually beat anybody.
Yamcha is weak compared to the rest of the Dragon Ball cast, but he could destroy cities and is probably a planet buster after training with King Kai. Yamcha would turn Cap into a smear on the wall.
Yamcha is weak compared to the rest of the Dragon Ball cast, but he could destroy cities and is probably a planet buster after training with King Kai. Yamcha would turn Cap into a smear on the wall.
Dormmamu is basically Zamasu from the end of the Goku Black arc. He can't win that. Everyone else is fair game. Even Thanos. People think Goku would give him the Infinity Stones for a fair fight but Thanos loves explaining his plan. Goku won't help him if his friends and family might be killed.
Actually, fair enough, he could teleport to other world or his universe or any number of places.
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I mean she pretty much stalemated Thanos and Goku is stronger than that dude so
Evel Kenevil could beat goku. Goku can't even drive a car let alone a motorcycle!
Also aren't there a bunch of entities in the MCU that you can't punch to death?
Also aren't there a bunch of entities in the MCU that you can't punch to death?
Goku would wipe everything in the MCU.
That's pretty much a fact and anyone arguing otherwise is unfamilar with Dragon Ball or overrating how strong people/things are in the MCU.
That's pretty much a fact and anyone arguing otherwise is unfamilar with Dragon Ball or overrating how strong people/things are in the MCU.
Yes he is weaker outside the Dark Dimension....but he effectively IS the Dark Dimension....so once Goku went there to "take" him Goku is done for.
And just for arguments sake lets say he took the physical mystic energies that make up Dormammus giant body and then decked that body.
Dormammu is still alive in the Dark Dimension....he would just make another body and come back.
Dormammu is unkillable unless you erase the entire Dark Dimension.....we have seen what Goku and crew are like versus something substantially weaker than Dormammu...Endless Zamasu....and there was literally nothing they could do to him....Dormammu is stronger than that.
Goku is fucked vs Dormammu, there is no plausible way for Goku to beat him.
No she didn't? He couldn't make her flinch so he had to hit her in the face with the powerstone to get her away from him.
If Thanos hadn't done that he would have been done for.
Are completely ignoring how strong Dormammu is.
Or are you forgetting what Endless Zamasu was....Dormammu is effectively a multiversal threat version of Endless Zamasu.
So who is out of touch here?
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eh, it looked pretty stalemate to me. It wasn't like she was untouchable and noting compared to goku at his upper limit
Well I see Thanos getting the Infinity Stones like Frieza getting the Dragon Balls and wishing himself immortal. Goku wouldn't purposely give a malicious character the means to eliminate half the Earth's population if he's demonstrated how evil he was. The Universal Tournament was different because Zeno and Goku were on friendly terms and Zeno decided to up the stakes of the tournament. Thanos is a huge dick who wants to kill half of everyone.
in dragon ball super, goku battle with beerus could erase the universe, and he achieved a power that not even gods of destruction can easily achieve, so yeah now goku is more stronger than most heroes in comics
he loses to gods that can erase everything just wishing though.
he loses to gods that can erase everything just wishing though.
Aside from charcters that don't have a physical form like Dormammu literally nothing in the Cinematic universe could stand up to Goku. You'd need to Snap him out of existence.
Goku is going to Mafuba and entire Dimension?
Come on guys.....ass pulls are one thing but even by Dragonball standards you guys need to get serious.
If it was "that easy"
Why didnt they try it against:
Note that Dormammu is stronger than Endless Zamasu and at the time we meet him in the MCU he had already absorbed multiple unverses so his Dimension is multiple times larger than our current Universe.
The real problem is gonna be when Goku gets the full-stone gauntlet and wishes a being of infinite power into existence just so he can fight it. Kinda like a cross between Buu and Annihilus with the demeanor of Zen-Oh.
Then the universe dies.
Then the universe dies.
You conveniently forget and ignore that Goku in the the Future Trunks saga is not the same Goku as he was at the end of the Tournament of Power saga.
This isn't difficult. Time and time again Goku has found a way to meet a seemingly unbeatable challenge. No reason to expect that he wouldn't with Dormammu as well.
Like Cell said, speed has everything to do with it.
The Dragonball characters are shown to be faster than the human eye fairly early on. They have to lock in on their Ki just to follow what's happening.
I don't think the MCU has shown anybody capable of combat at that speed (mostly because it'd make for a shitty movie). MCU Carol can go that fast but can she fight that fast? Even the DCCU doesn't show a whole lot of Superman's combat speed except for maybe when he solo'd the entire Justice League?
So you have to almost go directly to the comics to find the kinds of speed necessary to take on the world of Dragonball. This is because nobody wants to watch a movie where the fighters are blurring out in one spot and appearing in another over and over again.
The Dragonball characters are shown to be faster than the human eye fairly early on. They have to lock in on their Ki just to follow what's happening.
I don't think the MCU has shown anybody capable of combat at that speed (mostly because it'd make for a shitty movie). MCU Carol can go that fast but can she fight that fast? Even the DCCU doesn't show a whole lot of Superman's combat speed except for maybe when he solo'd the entire Justice League?
So you have to almost go directly to the comics to find the kinds of speed necessary to take on the world of Dragonball. This is because nobody wants to watch a movie where the fighters are blurring out in one spot and appearing in another over and over again.
Ahhh, no. Goku is stupid when it comes to every day things but the man is a fighting genius, probably the smartest fighter in the series.
Not to mention he has already fought plenty of magicians and fighters from other dimensions.
I feel like everyone voting for Yamcha doesn't realize he's unemployed and would probably sleep through the fight anyway.
Krillin though, could probably give Cap a run for his money. He's a little guy, but he's got heart. Plus could his destructo discs cut through Cap's shield? I'm thinking it would be a yes...
Krillin though, could probably give Cap a run for his money. He's a little guy, but he's got heart. Plus could his destructo discs cut through Cap's shield? I'm thinking it would be a yes...
Cell had the power to destroy the universe, as did Buu.
Goku's fight with Beerus as a SSG almost destroyed the universe.
Ultra Instinct is far above and beyond universal destruction. Dragon Ball is weird like that. The planet used to shake back in the Saiyan Saga when characters fought. Now? It's like almost nothing is happening even though they're leagues stronger. Super is weird when it comes to illustrating how truly powerful everyone is now.