Yes
That's exactly what I want
And at the end when Godzilla has won I want him to go back to monster island and look at the sun set as he weeps for humanity
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Godzilla: King of the Monsters Reviews - Long Live the King
- Thread starter ManaByte
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Yes
That's exactly what I want
And at the end when Godzilla has won I want him to go back to monster island and look at the sun set as he weeps for humanity
Bad human stuff in the first movie and bad human stuff in this movie seems like a consistent criticism to me though?
What's weird is that people are so quick to accept bad human characters/stories as not just baked in for Godzilla movies, but almost as a requirement, like the genre doesn't need to do any better than that. When usually it's the best Godzilla movies ('54, Mothra vs., Destroyah, Shin, and imo the two Kiryu films particularly the first) that have the best realized human characters/stories. Like it doesn't need to be one or the other, we've seen that this franchise can do both!
Too late at this point, that movie's out in less than a year.
Which movies? Most of them, well the good ones anyways, have plenty of character development and interaction. Even Endgame despite being over 3 hours didn't really have
any big action set pieces until the third act
Most superhero films have 2 to 3 key action scenes in a 2 hour runtime. Although, I guess it depends on what your definition of action is. For me, films like John Wick and Transformers are films that I would classify as non-stop action.
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They're probably referring to stuff like Venom and Aquaman. Super Hero movies more or less have gotten a decent formula down right that Monster movies have yet to replicate.
It's simply harder to wrap a story around a nonverbal monster and build good characters around that when most of the fan-base still just wants to see them just destroy shit. It's the same reason the Hulk films haven't really found an audience the way Batman and Spiderman films have.
Though at the very least Hulk has Banner to characterize.
Dredd was pretty much non stop action and it's one of the best comic book movies.
Unfortunately nobody went to see it :(. Dredd is great, but it's the exception not the norm for superhero films. Btw, if anyone likes the John Wick or The Raid films I highly recommend Dredd.
It's incredibly sad people didn't start taking notice of it until it was too late...
I remember seeing it in a nearly empty theater during opening week.
Doesn't matter what this film does, Godzilla vs Kong is coming out next year regardless
For me, the human/ground-level perspective is what elevates giant monster stuff from cool spectacle to amazing visceral spectacle, that captures the disaster movie nightmare aspect of kaiju. I'm quite glad to hear that this movie didn't forget that aspect as the 2014 film while also having tons more monster-scale action
Of course you can have 'non-stop' action and still have a good story and interesting characters.
But comparing it to John Wick or Dredd is unfair, because those characters can communicate and advance the plot themselves. I hate to break it to you, but Godzilla can't talk. Yet...
So you have to have a separate cast of characters that not only explain why the giant monster destroying cities is somehow a good guy, but also make you care about them and the humans too. It is a remit that normal action films do not have to deal with.
I'm not saying it can't be done well, but there's probably a reason Hollywood has struggled with this kind of film. They are very, very silly.
But comparing it to John Wick or Dredd is unfair, because those characters can communicate and advance the plot themselves. I hate to break it to you, but Godzilla can't talk. Yet...
So you have to have a separate cast of characters that not only explain why the giant monster destroying cities is somehow a good guy, but also make you care about them and the humans too. It is a remit that normal action films do not have to deal with.
I'm not saying it can't be done well, but there's probably a reason Hollywood has struggled with this kind of film. They are very, very silly.
I've mentioned a few times that if 14' does one thing quite a bit better is the sense of dread/horror compared to this one.
It isn't the same even though the scope is larger in this one.
The problem with the cuts are that it's mostly for the humans to set up shitty plot devices. Cutting to the humans when panicking and have a sense of terror is totally understandable and this one just doesn't pull it off as well in that one aspect.
If you take a shot for how many times a human character is literally right in front of a Kaiju AND at the same time there's complete destruction going on around with basically the ground collapsing yet survive in this movie you'd be at about Robert Downey's dark days level of f*cked up.
Some people coming in here and saying the 98 Godzilla is better than 2014 and Skull Island. Fuck that. Im still pumped to see this, it sounds like a big budget Showa film.
I would take 98 over 14, but Skull Island is a stretch. KOTM is far above them all though. What it gets right matters so much more than the areas it comes up short in.
Went to see 98 on my 8th birthday, I remember being incredibly disappointed... and it actually ended my Godzilla phase I was going through until Godzilla 2000 showed up in theaters. Experiencing both 2014 and Skull Island in theaters was the exact opposite, and I'm a bigger fan of Godzilla than ever.
Mine was too at first, but he ended up passing out trying to take it all in. Shit gets real, "Final Wars" style, only this movie was actually good. :p
It's hard to explain, but KOTM felt like validation for having long kept the faith in an obscure fandom, and being rewarded with Godzilla, his enemies, allies and their conflicts brought to life as they had once only existed in your imagination. Like, if there was a way to tell my child self that someday, something like this would be possible, dude would've scarcely been able to believe it.
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Dredd is incredibly well-paced with very efficient storytelling.
The action choreography is very clear and easy to follow.
How the action in a film is delivered goes a real long way.
I imagine the visceral close-quarters combat of Dredd is a lot easier for the average person to empathize with than unfathomably huge cartoon monsters punching each other.
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Nah, maybe if you were talking about the animated series you'd have a point. It had an interesting development though
I would definitely watch 98' Zilla over 2014 any day of the week. I don't get the hate, the movie isn't as bad as everyone makes it out to be. Fun adventure flick that has late 90's/early 2000's aesthetic to it all. Will say it is less of a zilla movie and better if seen as a creature movie. However Skull Island is some top tier stuff, especially in cinematography
I get where you're coming from, I just don't think there is any Kaiju movie out there that is even close to comparable in terms of both the quality and quantity of spectacle on display here.
The movie isn't perfect, and it could have been better, but for the genre and the series you'd be hard pressed to find something better currently out there (imo). And I don't see how fans of the series or genre are going to be disappointed.
I hate to drudge this up but the consensus is pretty much the same as King of the Monsters. And Speed Racer rules.
This movie is ass. I will never understand Era's love for it.
Absolutely, the less feelings in my movies the better. not a troll post
Yeah like technically I think 2014 was a pretty good film. Good visuals, great score. But too many cock teases of Godzilla before he actually fought. Like I vividly remember huge audience frowns during the airport scene and the first city battle when the doors closed to block the action.
At the end of the day people just wanna see monsters fight a lot.
The races were very exciting and it was a visual spectacle. I mean it's speed racer, that's what I wanted above all else.
Oh I don't hate the movie by any means. I picked up the 4K release a week or two ago and have had it on in the background a few times. Its a fun monster movie, I just don't see it as a Godzilla movie.
Imagine opening your fridge and having a choice between 3 types of sandwhich but knowing all are about 4 weeks old.
How I would feel about eating any one of those sandwhiches is how I feel about having to sit through any one of those 3 films again.
They're dancing around the point.
Plenty of films have non-stop action, the difference is they're good films with good action. And GKOTM is apparently neither.
You can have as much or as little Godzilla as you want, non-hardcore fans aren't gonna care if it's not done well.
It was written and produced by the same guy who wrote and directed Ex Machina and Annihilation.. and he was on board to write the sequels ! We missed out on what could have been a great franchise.
maybe have the monsters communicate with their classic sounds modified to portray a more wide arrange of emotions and complex facial expressions but pike not in a creepy uncanny happy way?
have the monsters talk without talking
have the monsters talk without talking
Seriously, people forget that the framing device of the first film was Shia slobbering over a half naked Megan Fox while Jon Turturro hams it up and Tyrese yells a lot.
Godzilla '14 was Shakespeare compared to Bayformers. There's only so much you can do with the human characters who are virtually powerless in these films.