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Godfall update enables ray tracing......... on AMD GPUs only.
- Thread starter Stacey
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This is the company that instead of making DX11 Drivers better made a new api that still isn't being utlized enough even though it's good.
it's pathetic how bush league they are on drivers and software. Hopefully Su gets serious cause this ain't it.
I don't see how this disproves the earlier statement that AMD support will come at a later date from CDPR - it just says they're using industry standard and extrapolates from that, I'm sure Godfall is using DXR too (correct me if I'm wrong).
This game is already struggling and putting a big graphical feature behind a "gpu wall" for a set of cards that were just released and low in stock doesn't help at all.
If your talking about mantle... It was the basis of Vulkan... AMD donated Mantle to be used as the basis of Vulkan and become the low overhead replacement for OpenGL...
AMD is being shitty here but they literally gave away mantle to ensure Vulkan existed... You can debate whether they'd have done if mantle really took off... But equally they didn't have to donate mantle at all when it didn't..
The situation is crap, I feel ya on that.
They've been doing some dumb missteps.
I still see it as them ditching DX11 or opengl cause they weren't great at it. Opengl had plenty of faults and so does DX11 with drawcalls but they took no effort to make drivers better which to this day never sits well with me. Doesn't mean much as I won't be getting a 6800 for sometime.
When we said we wanted AMD to put out products more like Nvidia, I don't we meant it like this...
But this aint that, dont be a shill.
Only way to "fuck up Nvidia" is to release a better card...
Damn so I'm going to have to wait before I briefly try RT settings before disabling due to massive performance hit? Bummer.
Raytracing? No one cares about that garbage.
How is the TressFX vs HairWorks performance in Godfall. That's what is important.
How is the TressFX vs HairWorks performance in Godfall. That's what is important.
Cyberpunk 2077 uses DXR for ray tracing... It's enabled for all GPUs and nothing is NVIDIA proprietary...
See here: https://www.kotaku.com.au/2020/11/c...ing-will-work-with-amds-radeon-rx-6000-cards/
I know which is why i asked why AMD doesn't enable DXR support for cyberpunk.
They could use the same API as Nvidia if they enabled it
Was he able to redeem it? With the RTX 3080, you need to have the card installed to be able to redeem the code for Watch Dogs Legion thru Nvidia's Geforce Experience.
I redeemed the "coupon" that I was given via a AMD redemption tool, which then spat out a Epic Game Store voucher code. I gave him said EGS code.
Still awaiting one for WoW Shadowlands to pop up. Unsure if I'm gonna try to sell that or give it away.
Are AMD disabling it for Cyberpunk? That's news to me if they are?? If they are that's a odd choice..
I dunno. Unkindled said they don't support RT on Cyberpunk at launch which must mean they haven't enabled the drivers to use DXR otherwise what is stopping them from having RT at launch
Nothing, absolutely nothing.
I think it's just false information that Cyberpunk 2077 RT won't work with AMD.
Nvidia is not doing the same as AMD here, they said it themselves that it will work on any GPU with DXR support.
That article I linked discusses the fact people seem to think that AMD hardware won't do ray tracing on cyberpunk due to the Nvidia marketing.. but reveals that cyberpunk in fact is DXR and works with any GPU that supports DXR...
So seems to suggest (unless AMD have specifically said otherwise) it will work fine...
It would be a real own goal for AMD to actively disable RT for one of the biggest releases of the year when there is not reason RT won't be supported by it.
You can enable it, but it runs like shit because Nvidia refuse to share the code to allow AMD to tailor drivers for it. AMD had always been pro open source, and Nvidia against it. Seems like AMD are finally giving up on winning karma points.
Yeah, that's a weird title. It's like saying "Cyberpunk has ray tracing and DLSS.... for Nvidia cards only."
Too strong words then, I want more competition and I wanna see prices drop overall XD
True, but back in the day it was shit like PhysX when NV had an actual PhysX chip that really did do it better. Weird to see a feature exclusive to the GPU that is inferior in terms of performance when that feature is turned on.
So the Godfall devs are locking out a platform agnostic feature from Nvidia? That's a new level of shitty, and if it was done at AMD's behest then shame on them.
I had considered picking this up because it looked fairly fun from watching streams but there's no way I'll support this.
I had considered picking this up because it looked fairly fun from watching streams but there's no way I'll support this.
DLSS requires Nvidia hardware by design to work, but RT does not.
Cyberpunk has RT for both AMD and Nvidia.
Yeah, I know, exclusive features aren't new to PC games is what I'm saying. So a AMD Radeon sponsored game having AMD's raytracing only doesn't seem weird to me. Not all games even support Nvidia's ray tracing, or DLSS, it's one of the reasons 2000 series cards was a bit of a not so interesting purchase, especially after the first year or so of it's launch where a meme was made of TomsHardware's "Just buy it" article.
And I'm still not sold on the performance loss/cost of raytracing. I'm waiting for at least one more generation of cards to come out, at least after AMD RDNA2's (RDNA3?) to see a more fleshed out ray tracing solution for both, and it would be enough of a buffer from the console hardware for me. I still want near instant game loading like Demon's Souls, Miles, and Ratchet & Clank PS5, so maybe some games will be out, or new PC hardware solutions by then.
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I mean, it's kinda the point of APIs like DirectX to be vendor neutral..
Only reason I can think of for AMD to hold back DXR at launch is to avoid direct comparisons with the RTX 3080. Since pretty much every reviewer benchmarks with all settings enabled, that would include DXR. From what we've seen so far, that would not turn out well for AMD at all.
So they disable, making it so reviewers can only directly compare rasterization performance, with a side benchmark of RTX 3080 DXR performance by itself. Then AMD unlocks it after launch so that it's not worth it for most reviewers to bother revisiting.
Obviously this is just my guess/speculation, but it's the only thing that makes sense to me.
Got any sources on that because according to Nvidia they use DXR which amd can use
I am saying that CDPR is the one going forward implementing the nvidia path
What Nvidia path, there is no Nvidia path. RTX is just Nvidia's marketing name for Microsoft Direct X Ray Tracing.