These things that became incredibly popular with Uncharted 2? These things from the games Barlog was influenced by?
Did you play the game? The intro? It's all one big forced walk sequence
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God of War is probably the boldest, most radical reimagining of an established series ever
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Did you play the game? The intro? It's all one big forced walk sequence
Yeah it's hyperbolic and very early to judge for a game released a day ago that I am almost surprised it didn't get wait for a some time type of responses. Almost all games that transitioned from 2d to 3d had a more radical change.
Truth.
The Axe is up there with the blades as THE iconic weapon. Everybody will recognize it from here on out.
IKR?
ND didn't invent storytelling in games just like Gears of War didn't invent it's cover system.
Lets be honest. How many huge AAA games are there which are super focused single player narrative experiences which are also third person action games about a parental relationship building between the player and an AI child character over the course of a road journey adventure? Naughty Dog didn't have to invent anything, they just put out a big production which is influential because of its popularity. Just like Gears of War didn't invent cover shooting or the pop and shoot mechanic, but popularized it because it became a huge hit. God of War draws from TLOU, there's no question on that. There's also nothing wrong with that.
The combat mechanics in the new game are way more interesting than the previous God of Wars
It's so much more involved than just mashing square square triangle
Hell, I just found an accessory that enables
It's no DMC3 but it's pretty fun
It's so much more involved than just mashing square square triangle
Hell, I just found an accessory that enables
witch time from Bayonetta
It's no DMC3 but it's pretty fun
People were complaining about the camera before the game came out but I bet most of them never played God Hand. That game shows how a camera stuck to the back could add alot to the game.
I love this direction.
I love this direction.
How can you call that a spinoff instead of a direct sequel when it directly continues the story?
Imo, the departure from Warcraft 1-3 - top down Real Time Strategy games with light RPG elements in the form of Heroes and some equippable items for them in the third game - to World of Warcraft - a Massivly Multiplayer Online Role Playing game, where you are basically one of the many soldiers or hired adventureres - is a much bigger move. Yes, it retains the characters and world, but it has nothing to do in terms of gameplay with it's previous games. It was a completely different genre, yet a direct continuation of the story, so it can't even be called a spinoff or reboot.
Yeah I am still blown away by the entire package. Bar the last of us it's the first game this generation where I have actually felt like I was going on a journey.
Interested to see where the 2nd game takes Kratos
Interested to see where the 2nd game takes Kratos
Super Mario 64.
Residen Evil 4.
Final Fantasy 7.
Probably a million more.
OP is flat out wrong. GoW is definitely a re-imagining, but I wouldn't call it "radical".
Especially compared to the ones I listed.
Residen Evil 4.
Final Fantasy 7.
Probably a million more.
OP is flat out wrong. GoW is definitely a re-imagining, but I wouldn't call it "radical".
Especially compared to the ones I listed.
This is definitely up there in the list. It may not have been a successful one, but definitely was a bold, dramatic change from an on rails space shooter to making those transitions between levels of an action adventure on foot game.
I'd also like to throw in Super Mario 64. When you look at OOT and Metroid Prime, both those games were fairly faithful representations of a 2D series going 3D. With Super Mario 64, you had very little in common with the 2D games. And it was most certainly bold.
I'm about 8 hours in and so far it's fantastic, but I have to say I'm not really seeing the radical changes from previous god of war. Yes, it looks and feels fantastic, but the core linear design + secret paths feels much the same as always, albeit with backtracking now allowed.
Bow, meanwhile, I actively disliked for the first few hours I played it as it was such a radical departure from the formula, and I still don't think its a move that's always for the best (ie dungeons are poor). I came to love it but that sandbox design is so far removed from the linearity of skyward sword.
Bow, meanwhile, I actively disliked for the first few hours I played it as it was such a radical departure from the formula, and I still don't think its a move that's always for the best (ie dungeons are poor). I came to love it but that sandbox design is so far removed from the linearity of skyward sword.
Yeah it's a new direction for the series, but it's a direction used in quite a few contemporary games and follows that pretty closely. So it's not that bold. You could even turn it around and say it's safe, since it's just adhering to what's really popular in sp games right now. Barlog and co executed this really well though, I love exploring and they didn't halfass the optional areas. The only thing I'm getting a bit tired of now is the combat. In the beginning I loved it but 15+ hours in (I'm at the exact point OP is at) it's losing a bit of its charm for me.
Not the most radical one as already mentioned, but it is bold and succeeded at it.
No, but the battle system is for another genre. OG GoW games were hack and slash, this one isn't.
It's like the different between Bayonetta and Souls combat. All action, but really different genre.
GoW 2018 doesn't remotely play or feel like any GoW game or any game in that genre.
No, but the battle system is for another genre. OG GoW games were hack and slash, this one isn't.
It's like the different between Bayonetta and Souls combat. All action, but really different genre.
GoW 2018 doesn't remotely play or feel like any GoW game or any game in that genre.
To be fair, the OP said "established franchise" and there was nothing established about Kid Icarus. It had two games before Uprising on different platforms and they both played differently. There was nothing established about the style of the franchise other than it being an action game with Pitt. And eggplants.Not even fucking close.
Was the GB sequel really that different from the original? It seems pretty similar from what I've seen, but I haven't played it.
It's closer than Uprising obviously, but it's not quite like the original at all. It's more like the fortress stages in the original expanded into an entire game, rather than auto-scrolling stages leading to fortress areas.
I don't know if it is the boldest ever, but it is pretty damn bold.
GoW changed from being an immature (gratuitously brutal and sexualized) hack and slash along corridors, to a mature Zelda-like action adventure. While the developers stated before that Zelda was a strong influence, I wasn't prepared how much this game feels like a 3D Zelda (excluding BotW), a mature Zelda, with great combat and a good story.
I strongly disliked earlier GoWs for so many reasons and I actually love this one.
GoW changed from being an immature (gratuitously brutal and sexualized) hack and slash along corridors, to a mature Zelda-like action adventure. While the developers stated before that Zelda was a strong influence, I wasn't prepared how much this game feels like a 3D Zelda (excluding BotW), a mature Zelda, with great combat and a good story.
I strongly disliked earlier GoWs for so many reasons and I actually love this one.
like that was the only change... I'm very certain you didn't play the game.
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Someone at Sony SM: "Look how well TLOU did. People are going to gobble up UC4. I took a look at what the guys over at GG are working on as well. We just need to give God of War the Sony super single player cinematic experience and we're gold!!!!"
At some point I hope a Sony studio makes something that isn't a 3rd person narrative driven cinematic game. With Death Stranding, the Zombie game, and TLOU 2 coming down the pipe, I won't hold my breath.
At some point I hope a Sony studio makes something that isn't a 3rd person narrative driven cinematic game. With Death Stranding, the Zombie game, and TLOU 2 coming down the pipe, I won't hold my breath.
Yep, God of War going from an 8-10 hour Linear Hack n Slash game to a full on 40+ hour, semi-open world RPG, is certainly a big change for the series and from what I've played so far, it was a brilliant idea that is executed extremely well.
Do you just not remember last gen? When every series was becoming an FPS?
There's an endless amount of series that have gone through way more radical shifts than GoW. Banjo-Kazooie became a vehicle game. The Valkyria series tried (and failed) to become a JRPG. Hell, Castlevania became GoW!
Edit: oh man I forgot the biggest. Danganronpa 3 was an anime. The third entry in that series wasn't even the same medium!
There's an endless amount of series that have gone through way more radical shifts than GoW. Banjo-Kazooie became a vehicle game. The Valkyria series tried (and failed) to become a JRPG. Hell, Castlevania became GoW!
Edit: oh man I forgot the biggest. Danganronpa 3 was an anime. The third entry in that series wasn't even the same medium!
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this is not a race, if anything, you brushing off other people opinions makes you the saltiest.
Lots of hyperbole here, at all directions, just like in similar BOTW threads...
But I'm playing Hellblade now - same closeup back/shoulder camera and slow, weighty, counterbased combat, and norse mythology. Love it!
And then I read in this thread that GoW takes a lot from Rise of the Tomb Raider in how the maps and game progression is layed out, which was one of my top 10 GOTY at it's release.
So it sounds like great changes! Might pick it up even though I planned not to because of the big changes and assumed exaggerated violence.
I haven't played it but I'd still agree with the OP about the changes, in my opinion they could easily have called it something else judging by what I've seen. From my quick peeks Kratos is basically what's left from the old God of War from what I can see. And I expect to see lots of "This is not my God of War!" threads and posts once the launch hype has gone away just as with BOTW. This is definitely not just a perspective change.
I'd say that Gran Turismo Sport is up there as well regarding big changes, the car collecting and huge single player campaign was basically what Gran Turismo was all about for 20 years, I'd boldy claim that the racing (while great) wasn't what made it so popular, and they just removed most of that. Huge change in my opinion.
But I'm playing Hellblade now - same closeup back/shoulder camera and slow, weighty, counterbased combat, and norse mythology. Love it!
And then I read in this thread that GoW takes a lot from Rise of the Tomb Raider in how the maps and game progression is layed out, which was one of my top 10 GOTY at it's release.
So it sounds like great changes! Might pick it up even though I planned not to because of the big changes and assumed exaggerated violence.
I haven't played it but I'd still agree with the OP about the changes, in my opinion they could easily have called it something else judging by what I've seen. From my quick peeks Kratos is basically what's left from the old God of War from what I can see. And I expect to see lots of "This is not my God of War!" threads and posts once the launch hype has gone away just as with BOTW. This is definitely not just a perspective change.
I'd say that Gran Turismo Sport is up there as well regarding big changes, the car collecting and huge single player campaign was basically what Gran Turismo was all about for 20 years, I'd boldy claim that the racing (while great) wasn't what made it so popular, and they just removed most of that. Huge change in my opinion.
Couldn't agree more. I am having all sorts of Deja Vu to the reaction of GoW similar to BotW. Like you said in all directions.
I don't think it's that radical but If there is one thing which ssm has done well is not only adding several new things but also executing it damn well.
The new gow has a great side content, exploration, a new combat with a deep depth etc
The new gow has a great side content, exploration, a new combat with a deep depth etc
This man knows his stuff.
Super Mario 64, Resident Evil 4 and Kid Icarus are up there, too, among many others.
If Prime is just Super Metroid in 1st person, then God of War is just God of War in the same vein as almost every other modern "Sony Cinematic Universe" game.
I love the game and it has been my most wanted since its reveal, but I don't think it's a bold statement at all. Neither for the industry, nor the series alone.
I am starting to think this is a joke thread
If it is, this is one of the best so far
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Just my Opinion, but, Not being bad, Dad Of War Combat actually fells like the "weakest" among the God of War games (specially 3 and Ascension). the spells/ RPG element were a good attempt to balance out the lack of weapon variety, but, and yes, I know they had their reason, it did not made up for removing jumping too.
also, again, focusing in the action, close over the shoulder really frustrated time to time given the reduced Field of View
GTA 3 definitely count and it's on the insane level of radical re-imagining.
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