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God i just fucking hate it when games have animals as enemies.
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I mean, it's pretty much just like killing animals in real life. What really sucks is that I have no ability to just play games that don't have animal killing in them. Someone save the fictional video game animals please. Mass murder of humans is ok tho.
People need to wake the fuck up to personal agency and common sense. These are completely voluntary, fictional, video games. You sound like a bad prime time news segment. To each their own and all that, but making a thread like this is hypocritical and old hat. Can we just move on already?
People need to wake the fuck up to personal agency and common sense. These are completely voluntary, fictional, video games. You sound like a bad prime time news segment. To each their own and all that, but making a thread like this is hypocritical and old hat. Can we just move on already?
This 100% The idea that killing animals is bad but killing humans is ok is a far more misanthropic a world view. Either we're all mammals and you have a problem with it (sure), or you acknowledge it's just a form of harmless escapism and literally no one is getting hurt here. Logic is hard to come by these days. Damn I'm grumpy tonight.
You're not grumpy, you're just sounding like a massive bully who enjoys making fun of others feelings and being really loud and obnoxious about it. That's far from grumpy, and you're not the only one, no need to worry.
It depends entirely on how they're represented. If you make it truly seem like an awful thing to shoot the thing then people will feel awful shooting it. If it's just another faceless goon, who gives a shit? It's just an abstraction and you're just playing a video game.
This is the reason a game like Spec Ops: The Line still stands out. It took people in a little deeper. Made them feel bad even if momentarily. And some got angry about that and felt manipulated, which was of course the entire point.
All joking aside, it's odd to see a child chasing a boar in botw with the intent to score a pelt. It does feel a desensitising of hunting even if it is a game.
Open world games should have a better mechanic for that sort of thing.
I have no problem with Mario finishing donkey kong off however by taking out kong's scaffolding.
Open world games should have a better mechanic for that sort of thing.
I have no problem with Mario finishing donkey kong off however by taking out kong's scaffolding.
I would say that in most cases killing animals in games is either utilitarian (you need their meat to survive, pelts to make clothing etc) or self defence (the animal is feral and attacks with the intent to kill you). It doesn't seem unreasonable to hunt or kill animals in such cases. Killing pets is usually only allowed in games that show similar disregard for innocent human life (your GTAs and such).
What's the point of that? Imagine if it was like
"Spiders make me uncomfortable"
"I'll only consume media with spiders, got you"
Every time someone pulls out the "It's just pixels" argument, it's never for a good reason.
I can't even think about killing/hunting animals in real life and even if I have to kill an insect, I do it with regret. :(
But video games? It's just some pixels! I can easily kill and drive on people in GTA or kill animals and... Am I a murderer for that? Nope! Do those things affect on my real life and my behavior on animals and people? Not at all!
But video games? It's just some pixels! I can easily kill and drive on people in GTA or kill animals and... Am I a murderer for that? Nope! Do those things affect on my real life and my behavior on animals and people? Not at all!
True, but hunting animals for food and materials is something humans have been doing for thousands of years. It is a common practice even today.
I completely agree, though this line of discussion is far from what the initial post is deriding.
The Far Cry series typically gives you gear upgrades from crafting with animal skins. Not sure what boar skins specifically give you, but we're talking stuff like you more weapon slots, grenades, bigger ammo bags, etc. Hunting is important in those games, since three at least (haven't played 6 but I doubt they changed the structure too much).
If you didn't hunt at all you'd be walking around with only two different gun options while a prepared player would get up to four, which is pretty huge IMO. I'm sure a no-hunting challenge could be done, maybe even be fun in a way, but... it would be a challenge, and obnoxious in ways.
Is anyone actually saying that killing animals in real life is bad, but killing humans in real life is good? Because last I checked, we were talking about videogames here and people's actions in videogames don't necessarily dictate what they think or believe in real life.
Seems like a massive leap.
We'll, that's the internet for you. Regardless, it's a joke, or bait. Sometimes it concerns me how people online manage to take anonymous postings at face value. Especially on a thread such as this one which has already devolved into a circus.
Well, if we are taking the OPs position that the virtual killing of animals disturbs them, but the virtual killing of humans does not, it seems rather up for debate. There is definitely a certain derision of their fellow man going on at the minimum. Of course I don't think the OP would be ok with killing people, as that would just be stupid.
If you truly believe that you can make that assessment, then I'd love to see your psychology degree that qualifies you to do so.
This thread has really brought out the armchair psychologists on Era, so it would be nice to start seeing some qualifications.
Any game that let's you kill foxes and pigeons is a great game imo.
And its funny, the people saying fuck people because humans are terrible/evil or whatever are literally talking about themselves.
And its funny, the people saying fuck people because humans are terrible/evil or whatever are literally talking about themselves.
The same could be said to everyone that is fine with action/crime movies, but don't want the dog to die. We are conditioned to not see videogame enemies as "humans" with rare exceptions (TLOU II, Spec Ops)
People bringing "sociopathy" into this don't know how a sociopath is supposed to behave lol, they certainly don't feel empathy for animals let alone "pixels". They would probably love to be as violent as possible in VR.
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Nice job leaving out the last sentence in that quote. Pal, this is a video game enthusiast forum where we can have all the varied opinions we want, and discuss and argue about them freely. Opinions such as "all video games that let you kill animals in them suck" even. If you want to discuss things with accredited psychologists, you might want to find another forum.
No mentions of sociopathy in any of my quotes, just a general annoyance with the juvenile thought processes displayed. This all annoys me as it reeks of the same tropes we hear in news media over games time and time again. Hell, I'm a vegetarian, I don't kill spiders or ants in my house, and yet im perfectly able to accept a game can be a good game even if there is the ability to kill an animal in it. It's bizarre.
There's a difference between having opinions and discussing them and what you (and a selective few others in this thread) are doing. Posting on a videogame enthusiast forum is not a license to start psychoanalysing strangers on the internet. No idea how you got that notion in your head, but I'm here to dissociate you of it.
I'll make sure to get a degree in psychology before espousing my opinions further. Your authority in this matter is duly noted.
humans and ancestors kill animals for 10 thousands of years to live, and thanks to our ancestors 2 million or so odd years ago, is how we evolved our brain capacity from consuming meat
era gamer: i don't want to kill a pixel animal
i'm not sure what's the point to discuss lol, this is the case in books, movies, etc too
era gamer: i don't want to kill a pixel animal
i'm not sure what's the point to discuss lol, this is the case in books, movies, etc too
Just not the penguins in Elden Ring. Seriously, can't bring myself to even for materials. I famously couldn't will myself to kill the penguin mob type in my old MMO, either. They're too damn cute and harmless! Screw those sheep when the roll away, btw. Like I could possibly let them escape after doing something so disrespectful.
How does this exist? It's... clever, even! It includes the slapstick of getting murdered hilariously by one of the giant lobsters at the end!
I would be in favor of some kind of humane and sustainable farming operations for beast bones, though. Arrows aren't gonna make themselves.
How does this exist? It's... clever, even! It includes the slapstick of getting murdered hilariously by one of the giant lobsters at the end!
I would be in favor of some kind of humane and sustainable farming operations for beast bones, though. Arrows aren't gonna make themselves.
Espouse your opinion all you want. Just leave your armchair psychoanalysis at the door. You do not have the tools, nor the qualifications, to determine how someone's reaction to videogames reflects on their real world views and mindset.
It's not a difficult concept to grasp, but I'm glad I could help enlighten you.
This tweet taught me how to parry knights off their horse then kill them and leave the horse alive. So now I do that all the time because I generally don't want to hurt animals either that aren't trying to kill me.
It's impressive that you know what I am and am not educated in, what would we do without your inclination to censor others based upon your own highly accredited and nuanced world views about anonymous Internet forum discussions. You know what, you won me over. Fuck free speech.
You're making this about free speech? On Resetera of all places?
That clown makeup appeared on your face rather damn fast.
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