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Gnosia |OT| 15 Minutes, 15 Persons, 150 Loops
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I was fooled into thinking it would happen eventually, because I did find one other note after that, and thought it might be connected to the Setsu/Sha-ming thing that kept happening at random...
After going through the trouble of getting that event to happen with Setsu surviving afterwards, but no note, I went back in the thread and looked at that link you posted previously for the answer.
Its taking me a while to get over the frustration of not being able to fully voice complex ideas(which you obviously could not do in a solo game like this) like you would in a real game of Mafia, and to accept that this is a single player video game with a loose framework resembling mafia.
I'm pretty early on now, just unlocked full(I think) options for how I want to set up a given round. The game seems neat though, so far.
Not crazy about Comet's visual design.
I'm pretty early on now, just unlocked full(I think) options for how I want to set up a given round. The game seems neat though, so far.
Not crazy about Comet's visual design.
I feel like winning as Gnosia is pretty easy as long as you play the long game and throw your allies under the bus to garner trust. Not like they can remember and hold a grudge like a real life group playing werewolf, after all lol. It's when you try to keep them alive that's a challenge, like the event where you have to survive as Gnosia with Sha-Ming.
One thing that irritates me about the game is that death is an instant loss for you no matter what. It should be a valid strategy to sacrifice yourself, particularly as an AC Follower, to help the Gnosia win.
One thing that irritates me about the game is that death is an instant loss for you no matter what. It should be a valid strategy to sacrifice yourself, particularly as an AC Follower, to help the Gnosia win.
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yo this game rules, just got event search in loop 23. Apparently that happens at a different loop for different people? I'm curious what the trigger is.
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After the tutorial loops are done (all roles unlocked), win a game on Setsu's side with Setsu alive.
Finally beat it!
Also, real funny thing happened to me
Also, real funny thing happened to me
I got the last two notes I needed (Gina 4 and Remnan 5) in one loop, but in my hurry to skip through the text, I forgot to claim engineer when asked about it. Since the Gnosia was the only one who claimed the role, this apparently created an inconsistency and destroyed the universe lmao. And it didn't save any progress I made with those events! So I had to do a couple more loops to find them again.
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Finally I completed Gnosia. I thought it would taken me more time, while around 130 loops were enough to reach the ending. It was a really satisfying game. Only in the last ten loops I was caring less about the warewolf gameplay, but that's just because I was trying to reach the final notes, and for them winning wasn't the requirement. Otherwise, it has been an innovative experience, combining many genres and creating something unique. I can see it being divisive, so there will be 10/10 reviews, and 2/10 reviews. But I enjoyed every minute I spent in this game, it made me put Bravely Default II on hold as after playing a loop, I could not switch game and I wanted to play another loop immediately.
69 loops in or so, pace is good, losing a lot and sort of going with the flow now.
I do wonder if you have a stats screen somewhere about the number of win/loss, number of time you've been a certain role and so on.
A small note for Sha-Ming, last two times I did a Gnosia run he was on my team and... kept voting against me every-single-damn-round, including one loop where he was not my detractator, didn't doubt me nor anyone else did, it did end up to my down fall so yeah.
It's also funny since I remember him being introduced as a character who is rarely doubted yet was cold sleeped the very first round in the game he was introduced despite no one voting him.
Overall the game is pretty fun and addictive but you can't help but laugh and/or be frustrated to how limited and/or just completely incoherent the AI is at times, it was made by a small team so it's understandable but with more playtesting I'm sure some things would have been improved AI wise to make it a more "fluid" experience, the not so odd instances of the game contradicting itself in two consecutives sentences is just a bit hard to swallow at times and it's not that rare so I totally get how some people would struggle to enjoy the whole thing.
Also have to say the beginning of the game was really rough, with how limited your options were and how you just had no clue about... too many things.
Now the rounds are just spamming skills galore from every single character, it gets a bit wild and is still hard to follow but hopefully with increasing stats things will get smoother to play as you get more powerful skill and high intuition/stealth
Another loop I vividly remember is one where Otome was the last Gnosia, I figured it out like day 3 or something and was completely unable to vote her out, she just kept using Regret and the game ended up with me being voted out on day 5 while it should have been rather obvious that she was the Gnosia in the end (granted I don't remember which others characters were left, probably not the most logical ones).
Overall Otome/Kukrushka/Yuriko are the ones I don't try using doubt against anymore, their counter skills are rather powerful and no one ever backs me up when I still try to go against them.
I do wonder if you have a stats screen somewhere about the number of win/loss, number of time you've been a certain role and so on.
A small note for Sha-Ming, last two times I did a Gnosia run he was on my team and... kept voting against me every-single-damn-round, including one loop where he was not my detractator, didn't doubt me nor anyone else did, it did end up to my down fall so yeah.
It's also funny since I remember him being introduced as a character who is rarely doubted yet was cold sleeped the very first round in the game he was introduced despite no one voting him.
Overall the game is pretty fun and addictive but you can't help but laugh and/or be frustrated to how limited and/or just completely incoherent the AI is at times, it was made by a small team so it's understandable but with more playtesting I'm sure some things would have been improved AI wise to make it a more "fluid" experience, the not so odd instances of the game contradicting itself in two consecutives sentences is just a bit hard to swallow at times and it's not that rare so I totally get how some people would struggle to enjoy the whole thing.
Also have to say the beginning of the game was really rough, with how limited your options were and how you just had no clue about... too many things.
Now the rounds are just spamming skills galore from every single character, it gets a bit wild and is still hard to follow but hopefully with increasing stats things will get smoother to play as you get more powerful skill and high intuition/stealth
Another loop I vividly remember is one where Otome was the last Gnosia, I figured it out like day 3 or something and was completely unable to vote her out, she just kept using Regret and the game ended up with me being voted out on day 5 while it should have been rather obvious that she was the Gnosia in the end (granted I don't remember which others characters were left, probably not the most logical ones).
Overall Otome/Kukrushka/Yuriko are the ones I don't try using doubt against anymore, their counter skills are rather powerful and no one ever backs me up when I still try to go against them.
Beat it last night, now playing as a crewmate with 6 gnosia while fishing for bad endings. Last one was an ending with SQ/Remnan...
But it's only guessing and RNG at this point. A guide would be nice for the endings with these specific requirements.
EDIT: I will be trying the google translated stuff, though.
But it's only guessing and RNG at this point. A guide would be nice for the endings with these specific requirements.
EDIT: I will be trying the google translated stuff, though.
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I haven't seen both scenes but according to the JP guide if you're both by yourselves then the scene is more romantic.
108 loops and I don't feel like I'm close at all. I hate when I REALLY want to like a game because it's very compelling but I'm just literally fucking god fucking awful at the game's logic. Doesn't help there's a fuck-ton of RNG that likes to screw me over at every turn.
I have reached the point where the game is trolling me. I have found an event where I am trying to get information from Yuriko and her condition is making sure she survives until the round is won. The first time I tried this, she was immediately attacked by Gnosia. The second time she was one of the Gnosia. Maybe thrd time will be the charm.
I think you can play as a Guardian Angel for each of those "protect someone" goals. Makes it waaaaaay easier.
Loop 161, only missing setsu's last note, but nothing seems to trigger anything...
Can i get any hints? Is there a guide? Also there was a big event i was following but i got killed so i don't know if there was a follow up :
Can i get any hints? Is there a guide? Also there was a big event i was following but i got killed so i don't know if there was a follow up :
Basically about Stella being an IA and jonas not understanding she's one! after trying to explain it to him, it led to nowhere, and i died that night... was there anything more to that event?
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In most cases I do not think so, I don't remember that event requiring anything g other than you being not Gnosia/Bug.
I'm only 21 loops in and I was either very lucky or it won't take long any more. I believe I got the bug one somewhere between loop 15 and 18.
I also got the even finder after 18 loops or so, so I guess I did get lucky.
Played through to loop 10 last night. Enjoying it so far; they do a good job of introducing additional roles and concepts quickly enough that it remains interesting and doesn't feel too samey (which I was a bit worried about at the start). Definitely curious to see where it goes from here.
Main gripe at this point is that the dialogue/interaction during voting has frequently felt clunky/contrived due to 1) characters repeating the same exact lines multiple times within the same voting session and 2) characters immediately contradicting statements they just made on the last turn.
SQ: Like, guys, Gina is toootally Gnosia right?
Gina: What, I'm not Gnosia!
*next turn*
SQ: Why's everyone picking on Gina?? She's def human.
Now I suppose it could be that behind the scenes the game's logic is registering that Gina defended herself really convincingly and SQ now believes she's innocent, but it comes off as jarring and completely inconsistent.
(and I'm talking before that role was introduced where characters just add chaos to the proceedings or whatever)
Also wish there was a bit more character interaction outside the voting room but maybe that'll change.
Main gripe at this point is that the dialogue/interaction during voting has frequently felt clunky/contrived due to 1) characters repeating the same exact lines multiple times within the same voting session and 2) characters immediately contradicting statements they just made on the last turn.
SQ: Like, guys, Gina is toootally Gnosia right?
Gina: What, I'm not Gnosia!
*next turn*
SQ: Why's everyone picking on Gina?? She's def human.
Now I suppose it could be that behind the scenes the game's logic is registering that Gina defended herself really convincingly and SQ now believes she's innocent, but it comes off as jarring and completely inconsistent.
(and I'm talking before that role was introduced where characters just add chaos to the proceedings or whatever)
Also wish there was a bit more character interaction outside the voting room but maybe that'll change.
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I keep trying but i can't find how to get setsu's last note...
I'm trying to do what yuriko told me, but it doesn't do anything
it's the only note i'm missing
I'm trying to do what yuriko told me, but it doesn't do anything
it's the only note i'm missing
SQ: Human SQ must recognize Gnosia player. When both have those roles, keep her alive and lie a bit (like faking a job) so she doubts you.
Remnan: Cover and visit Remnan multiple times.
Yuriko: needs at least Yuriko and Raqio alive.
Setsu: After the Yuriko event when something happens on with the silver key, you will need a very specific setting.
Remnan: Cover and visit Remnan multiple times.
Yuriko: needs at least Yuriko and Raqio alive.
Setsu: After the Yuriko event when something happens on with the silver key, you will need a very specific setting.
I think it isn't needed for the ending, but if you keep Jonas alive in that one, something funny happens at the end.
What exactly did she tell you and how did you try to do it?
It's annoying cause you can't repeat the events so i will basically never see it...
As for yuriko, i don't remember exactly but
i think she said i must stay with raqio or something... it's where she show raqio the truth... but that may be the same case as the jonas event where i couldn't complete it at all... it's frustrating
What am i supposed to do? I don't have any other hints beside that... how do you even know that specific setting?
How does the "alliance" mechanic actually affect things? Other players can ally up but I don't see what changes. Also when someone is allied with me I'm still not limited in any of the things I can do or say.
Also, in what circumstances would it be advantageous for a bug to fake being an engineer or doctor?
Also, in what circumstances would it be advantageous for a bug to fake being an engineer or doctor?
They are more likely to defend you and attack those who you attack.
Also same case as Gnosia, you can possibly manipulate others to voting for other people and having another engineers/doctors alive creates a defense against people voting for you for a bit.
For the Yuriko event, if you use the event search until there is a bug, and start the game without changing any settings, and keep Raqio and Yuriko alive, does the event where Yuriko shows Raqio the truth happen again? That one should repeat if you didn't finish it. It is important to keep Raqio alive in a loop where Yuriko had the event with them. If it doesn't happen at all, you have to repeat.
For the Setsu event with the specific setting, I think you can only do that after the Yuriko event, and when you use the event search, there will be a message that you need to find a setting by yourself. If that happens and you don't get it, I can give you a hint, but it is a very cool moment and you don't want it spoiled.
For the Setsu event with the specific setting, I think you can only do that after the Yuriko event, and when you use the event search, there will be a message that you need to find a setting by yourself. If that happens and you don't get it, I can give you a hint, but it is a very cool moment and you don't want it spoiled.
Shigemichi 2 had Chipie and Setsu in his event, so they have to be alive. Not sure what else, maybe make Shigemichi trust you by covering and visiting him.
Any idea on if you can be gnosia to get it to happen, that way I can better control who is alive and dead?
Mash the "random event" button a bunch of times and see if Gnosia ever pops up in the player role?
I need some help, because I am feeling like the main character and getting tired of those loops ( I think I am on loop 130 or something... 15 hours already).
I am missing the last 2 entries of Remnan, the second and last (gnosia) of SQ and the last of Setsu.
I think I have figured that one of them is SQ/Reman together.
The rest I dunno.
Send help
Edit: I think the game heard me complaining, because "something" happened in the menu.
I am missing the last 2 entries of Remnan, the second and last (gnosia) of SQ and the last of Setsu.
I think I have figured that one of them is SQ/Reman together.
The rest I dunno.
Send help
Edit: I think the game heard me complaining, because "something" happened in the menu.
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Setsu
When you start a loop and they are depressed, you have to answer "Let's Go Play" and just shrug off the actual events of the loop to have a nice day with them. It's random, but you've probably seen it at least once by now.
Remnan
For the first one, you (as human) have to get a round where SQ is Gnosia and tries to collaborate with Remnan (he'll reject her and freak out). Raqio, Remnan, and SQ must all survive so you can have an event where Raqio decides to go after SQ and get her frozen (iirc, you have to get her frozen before you catch any other gnosia). If the note doesn't pop when you freeze her, then you can do it the next loop that Gnosia SQ tries to collaborate with Remnan and he freaks out again.
For the next one, you (as human or gnosia) have to keep trying to cover for remnan and then talk to him at night. You'll know you are getting the event chain going if you get night events with him where he starts opening up. You have to then keep him alive for enough nights for him to tell you the last bit of info about himself.
For the next one, you (as human or gnosia) have to keep trying to cover for remnan and then talk to him at night. You'll know you are getting the event chain going if you get night events with him where he starts opening up. You have to then keep him alive for enough nights for him to tell you the last bit of info about himself.
SQ
First one is the two of you surviving to the end of a match.
Second is you, as Gnosia, do something to get SQ's attention (best thing to do is lie about your role, preferably one that she also has, also probably helps to not have a high performance). She'll then ask you to not kill her during a night event, and then you just have to keep her alive until the end of the game. You get a bonus scene if it's just the two of you left.
Second is you, as Gnosia, do something to get SQ's attention (best thing to do is lie about your role, preferably one that she also has, also probably helps to not have a high performance). She'll then ask you to not kill her during a night event, and then you just have to keep her alive until the end of the game. You get a bonus scene if it's just the two of you left.
This Japanese guide was posted earlier in the thread by someone and it has a section on the abilities:
グノーシア攻略 Wiki*
wikiwiki.jp
Thank you!!!
The Setsu one you mentioned i already did actually. I think this one is related to the "bug" in the silver key